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besson3c · Apr 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

ebuddy: you are shifting the target. I'm not debating whether or not Obama has met expectations. Nor am I interested in trying to quantify or qualify how thoughtful Obama is using subjective measures.

But like I said, if you want to go on about Obama eating microphones and not bowing to the queen or King of Saudi Arabia properly, go for it. I'm just trying to help all you guys because I love.

Macrobat · Apr 6, 2009, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by besson3c

SpaceMonkey: I agree with you, but I'm afraid that people on the "other side" of this perpetual partisan football game would not agree that Obama is thoughtful in his speech as you've described because they disagree with his positions.

I frankly don't understand why somebody can't be simultaneously eloquent, well spoken, and wrong.

Where was this agreement and the "can't we all just get along" for the past 8 years?

Get over yourselves - you set the precedent, now you get the reward.

SpaceMonkey · Apr 6, 2009, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Macrobat

Where was this agreement and the "can't we all just get along" for the past 8 years?

Get over yourselves - you set the precedent, now you get the reward.

Because Bush wasn't eloquent. I think I explained the distinction in my earlier post.

turtle777 · Apr 6, 2009, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by besson3c

But like I said, if you want to go on about Obama eating microphones and not bowing to the queen or King of Saudi Arabia properly, go for it. I'm just trying to help all you guys because I love.

Let me get this straight:

1) You start this thread, called "The epic pictoral Obama fail thread."
2) People post Fail pics
3) You rant and rave against those pics.

WTF is wrong with you

-t

Dork. · Apr 6, 2009, 12:02 PM

Macrobat · Apr 6, 2009, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

Because Bush wasn't eloquent. I think I explained the distinction in my earlier post.

And neither is Obama, off his teleprompter, which we have all explained in our earlier posts.

sek929 · Apr 6, 2009, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Macrobat

Get over yourselves - you set the precedent, now you get the reward.

As I said before, how does this make you any better than the Democracks you are supposedly at ends with?

They act like a$$holes for 8 years and your pithy comeback is to act the same way?

I think everybody needs a healthy dose of 'getting over themselves.'

Macrobat · Apr 6, 2009, 12:17 PM

Seems to have done wonders for their electroal cause. Don't hate me if I wish to emulate success.

SpaceMonkey · 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Macrobat

And neither is Obama, off his teleprompter, which we have all explained in our earlier posts.

No the distinction was the nature of the "gaffe," and whether/how it reinforces perception. Your "gaffes" actually reinforce Obama supporters' positive perceptions of him, and do nothing to advance a serious critique of Obama's worldview. See my earlier post for details.

SpaceMonkey · Apr 6, 2009, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Let me get this straight:

1) You start this thread, called "The epic pictoral Obama fail thread."
2) People post Fail pics
3) You rant and rave against those pics.

WTF is wrong with you

-t

The easiest way to ruin a joke thread is to talk about srs business.

Dork. · Apr 6, 2009, 01:07 PM

This thread has become quite lame.

How about a caption contest?

sek929 · Apr 6, 2009, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Macrobat

Seems to have done wonders for their electroal cause. Don't hate me if I wish to emulate success.

Hooray for the lowest common denominator.

SpaceMonkey · Apr 6, 2009, 01:16 PM

Check out candidate Obama's highly suspicious Crow Indian hand-raise, mimicking the statue in the background. Is he secretly pledging solidarity with the Apsáalooke?

Macrobat · Apr 6, 2009, 01:24 PM

turtle777 · Apr 6, 2009, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

The easiest way to ruin a joke thread is to talk about srs business.

I reckon you are referring to Besson ?

-t

SpaceMonkey · Apr 6, 2009, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

I reckon you are referring to Besson ?

-t

Oh, everyone, really.

besson3c · Apr 6, 2009, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Let me get this straight:

1) You start this thread, called "The epic pictoral Obama fail thread."
2) People post Fail pics
3) You rant and rave against those pics.

WTF is wrong with you

-t

Ah, out for another scrap Turtle?

What pics am I raving against again?

besson3c · Apr 6, 2009, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

Check out candidate Obama's highly suspicious Crow Indian hand-raise, mimicking the statue in the background. Is he secretly pledging solidarity with the Apsáalooke?

It looks like only SpaceMonkey and me really get the point of this thread

Dork. · Apr 6, 2009, 04:16 PM

Don't forget the Civ IV longbowman, I'm sure he gets the point of the thread....

No caption for my pic, besson3c?

Laminar · Apr 6, 2009, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

The easiest way to ruin a joke thread is to talk about srs business.

The easiest way to ruin a joke thread is to let besson anywhere near it.

besson3c · Apr 6, 2009, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Dork.

Don't forget the Civ IV longbowman, I'm sure he gets the point of the thread....

No caption for my pic, besson3c?

I'm cool with the longbowman, my wife invited me to join her having sex with him. That's a spicy meatball!!

I've been thinking about a worthy caption for your pic... It's a little tough. It looks like he either thinks he's holding an invisible plate, or is letting one go. I'm going to go with a saucer for tea, so how about:

"ahhh... that's better! A cup of tea governor?"

I know, it's pretty brilliant.

besson3c · Apr 6, 2009, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

The easiest way to ruin a joke thread is to let besson anywhere near it.

That's what she said!

besson3c · Apr 6, 2009, 04:33 PM

Hey Laminar,

Since you keep posting similar comments about me it sounds like there is a bit of a disconnect here. For your benefit, I'll try to make things clearer...

I don't care whether I'm funny or not. I don't care whether you or anybody else thinks I'm funny. This place is my play place, I do what I feel like doing (within the rules) for my own benefit. The question you should be asking yourself is not why I'm so unfunny, but why you aren't doing a better job of entertaining me?

Laminar · Apr 6, 2009, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Hey Laminar,

Since you keep posting similar comments about me it sounds like there is a bit of a disconnect here. For your benefit, I'll try to make things clearer...

I don't care whether I'm funny or not. I don't care whether you or anybody else thinks I'm funny. This place is my play place, I do what I feel like doing (within the rules) for my own benefit. The question you should be asking yourself is not why I'm so unfunny, but why you aren't doing a better job of entertaining me?

For someone that aligns him/herself with the political party that claims to care about people, your posting sure is selfish.

turtle777 · Apr 6, 2009, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

I don't care whether I'm funny or not. I don't care whether you or anybody else thinks I'm funny. This place is my play place, I do what I feel like doing (within the rules) for my own benefit. The question you should be asking yourself is not why I'm so unfunny, but why you aren't doing a better job of entertaining me?

In short: you're full of sh!t.

What else is new...

-t

besson3c · Apr 6, 2009, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

For someone that aligns him/herself with the political party that claims to care about people, your posting sure is selfish.

That's quite the leap!

besson3c · Apr 6, 2009, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

In short: you're full of sh!t.

What else is new...

-t

Exactly! You have much you could learn from Turtle, Laminar...

ironknee · Apr 6, 2009, 08:51 PM

reading this thread i get the feeling reading from a teleprompter is a big issue. i suppose that's what rush is talking about lately.

am i wrong to say so did bush 2, clinton, bush 1, reagan, carter did too? nevermind

ebuddy · Apr 6, 2009, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dork.

How about a caption contest?

placebo1969 · Apr 6, 2009, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Also, I'm a little confused as to how anybody here would think that any of us honestly think that Obama doesn't make mistakes? Maybe you've been listening to too much Rush or whomever has been sort of fueling the whole Messiah crap?

Maybe it's articles like these that ask if Obama is an "enlightened being?" that fuel "the whole Messiah crap."

Doofy · Apr 7, 2009, 09:24 AM

besson3c · Apr 7, 2009, 02:25 PM

Man, that woman with the sword is hot! Do you have more pics like that Doofy?

Chongo · Apr 8, 2009, 11:50 AM

Does this qualify as an epic fail? Announcing antimissile budget cuts they day after N Korea launches a missile capable of hitting Hawaii or Alaska.

SpaceMonkey · Apr 8, 2009, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Chongo

Does this qualify as an epic fail? Announcing antimissile budget cuts they day after N Korea launches a missile capable of hitting Hawaii or Alaska.*

No, that's a policy disagreement. Do you perhaps have a picture of Obama choking on some kind of Korean street food that would be analogous to a pretzel?

*Technically, as observed in the failure of their latest test, the missile in question has not yet been demonstrated as capable of hitting Hawaii or Alaska.

sek929 · Apr 8, 2009, 12:03 PM

Also, don't we already have plenty of missiles at this point? Does N Korea launching one missile really warrant a buildup?

besson3c · Apr 8, 2009, 12:08 PM

Yeah, it's not as if the stockpile we have will go stale or something.

SpaceMonkey · Apr 8, 2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by sek929

Also, don't we already have plenty of missiles at this point? Does N Korea launching one missile really warrant a buildup?

In addition to deterring attacks on the United States, our nuclear umbrella over Japan and other allies serves to reduce their incentive to go nuclear themselves. Arguably, the U.S. could maintain only a few hundred nuclear weapons as a successful deterrent against direct attack (similar to China's current posture). At the same time, some argue that wouldn't be enough to convince Japan and our other allies that we would use our limited nuclear stockpile to respond to nuclear attacks against them.

It's a balancing act, and there are many routes to reassuring our allies. However, the cuts that the Obama administration will seek (which would depend on Russia's own commitments) are not that revolutionary.

Laminar · Apr 8, 2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

That's quite the leap!

Not at all. Your posts are selfish in nature - you don't care about how what you do or say affects others, as long as you're enjoying yourself.

SpaceMonkey · 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Yeah, it's not as if the stockpile we have will go stale or something.

The fissionable material will not noticeably degrade for decades, but other materials (rubbers, metals, etc.) in the warhead itself and also in the delivery vehicle do degrade over time, just like anything else. There's also some question about the long-term reliability of the conventional explosives used to initiate fission. The RRW project is an attempt underway to make the stockpile easier to maintain.

besson3c · Apr 8, 2009, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

Not at all. Your posts are selfish in nature - you don't care about how what you do or say affects others, as long as you're enjoying yourself.

That's another leap.

I never said that I don't care about "affecting" others, I choose not to willingly offend people and make a reasonable effort not to do so, but your being affected by bad jokes is not really something I choose to concern myself with. If you find them this irritating that you wish to make this much of an issue over them, you should ask yourself why? Because you prefer to be around cool people that make good jokes? You think it is practical to forcefully raise issue with any source of irritant on MacNN or forums in general? You had some sort of traumatic experience with bad jokes?

This forum is what it is including all of the personalities and what they bring to it. Deal with it, and don't make your problems mine.

Laminar · Apr 8, 2009, 01:59 PM

Sorry, that's not what you're saying here.

Originally Posted by besson3c

I don't care whether I'm funny or not. I don't care whether you or anybody else thinks I'm funny. This place is my play place, I do what I feel like doing (within the rules) for my own benefit.

Also,

besson3c · Apr 8, 2009, 02:30 PM

Laminar · Apr 8, 2009, 03:39 PM

Nothing?

besson3c · Apr 8, 2009, 04:00 PM

Yup! I don't wish to be picked apart. If you don't like my jokes, ignore me. End of story.

thechidz · Apr 8, 2009, 05:23 PM

Is this thread for real?

Pendergast · Apr 8, 2009, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Besson is such a broken ~~record~~ pile of poop.

-t

Did he not say that pooping in the girlfriend's living room was a way to prove one's love?

Pendergast · Apr 8, 2009, 06:47 PM

You can always pinch yourself.

Dork. · Apr 8, 2009, 09:32 PM

It's been a while, Pendergast! Welcome back!

Laminar · Apr 8, 2009, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Yup! I don't wish to be picked apart. If you don't like my jokes, ignore me. End of story.

Don't get pissed at me for pointing out your hypocrisy. It's your problem, not mine.

vmarks · Apr 9, 2009, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE

That really took you this long?

Whoever it was -at whatever point in the past- that encouraged him by somehow hinting in however minor a form that something besson wrote was in any way remotely resembling something that might be mistaken for authentic humor... should be lashed with a wet poodle.

What have you got against the poodle?