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Feb 18, 2010, 06:12 PM
 
Some things just ain't that complicated Bess.
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Feb 18, 2010, 06:12 PM
 
It's official, Chris Mathews, MSNBC and the Southern Poverty Law Center just linked Joe Stack by inference to the Patriot Movement and his tax issues. Also by inference and name to Timothy McVeigh and militias. MSNBC is pointing fingers at the Tea Party Movement.
     
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Feb 18, 2010, 06:17 PM
 
Yup, of course they would. I'd be absolutely shocked if they did not.

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Feb 18, 2010, 06:21 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
Some things just ain't that complicated Bess.
Some things don't matter.

He was clearly unhappy with his government in general, Republican and Democrat, hence "elections don't matter". Whether he was mostly left or mostly right it doesn't matter - neither political leaning has any sort of monopoly on resorting to violence.
     
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Feb 18, 2010, 06:21 PM
 
Well, you know what they say. It's all fun and games until someone crashes an airplane into a building.

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Feb 18, 2010, 06:31 PM
 
FBI have requested that the host of the suicide note remove it. They've done so.

Don't dead people have first amendment rights?
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Feb 18, 2010, 06:36 PM
 
He is neither a conservative nor liberal.

He just follows the tea party manifesto.

Anti-tax, anti-government, anti-corporate-bailout.
Bush Tax Cuts == Job Killer
June 2001: 132,047,000 employed
June 2003: 129,839,000 employed
2.21 million jobs were LOST after 2 years of Bush Tax Cuts.
     
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Feb 18, 2010, 06:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Wow, we've reduced his complicated letter and this tragic situation down to a simple little box to put all of this in under a page!

Comon guys, what took yo so long?
It works like this...

We attempt to figure out which political party this mans beliefs most align with, then we use his actions as validation for our preconceived notions about those we disagree with.

It's a fun game.

He's obviously a liberal, which means that liberals go around crashing planes into things.

There is so much to go on here...

He's anti business... LIBURUL
He hates taxes... CONSARVATIVE!
He's anti-religion... OBVEOOS LIBRUL
Hates unions... CUNSERVITAVE
Mentions Bush... LIBURAL!
Anti-Bailout... CANTSERVITVE!
Lived in California... LEEBRAL!
Lived in Texas... CUNSERVATEEV!!1
He uses violence... LEEBRUL? or CONSARVETARVE??
He did something BAD!!... obvious LIBSERVATIVECONERALBUL

Hates the IRS... er... HUMAN!

There is also the whole Obama allowed this to happen angle I'm sure we'll be hearing about for years. How many terror attacks are we going to let the Democrats be responsible for before we've had enough?

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Feb 18, 2010, 06:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by hyteckit View Post
He is neither a conservative nor liberal.

He just follows the tea party manifesto.

Anti-tax, anti-government, anti-corporate-bailout.
Broken record, meet hyteckit.

-t
     
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Feb 18, 2010, 06:49 PM
 
Ummm... Most people against bailouts over here are libs. Something to do with poor taxpayers funding the useless, rich "fat cats".

Is this not how it works over there? Especially when the guy keeps banging on about rich corporations?
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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Broken record, meet hyteckit.

-t
Not broken record turtle.

First time I mention he was neither a conservative nor liberal.
Bush Tax Cuts == Job Killer
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June 2003: 129,839,000 employed
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Feb 18, 2010, 06:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
Ummm... Most people against bailouts over here are libs. Something to do with poor taxpayers funding the useless, rich "fat cats".

Is this not how it works over there? Especially when the guy keeps banging on about rich corporations?
Not here in the US.

Have you seen the tea party rallies?

Bush Tax Cuts == Job Killer
June 2001: 132,047,000 employed
June 2003: 129,839,000 employed
2.21 million jobs were LOST after 2 years of Bush Tax Cuts.
     
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Feb 18, 2010, 07:01 PM
 
Doofy: somethings things aren't all that complicated, but you seem hell bent on reducing this to a simplistic narrative even when it seems like bashing a square peg into a round hole. Do you have your eye on a gig with some cable news outlet here in America?
     
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Doofy: somethings things aren't all that complicated, but you seem hell bent on reducing this to a simplistic narrative
It's a producer skill, Bess... Take a highly complex system and reduce it to simplicity. I've had that much practice I can do it with anything. Even women!
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Feb 18, 2010, 07:09 PM
 
In a band... LUBYRAL!!!
Played the accordion???... CONSARVETLAVE!

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Feb 18, 2010, 07:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Doofy: somethings things aren't all that complicated, but you seem hell bent on reducing this to a simplistic narrative even when it seems like bashing a square peg into a round hole. Do you have your eye on a gig with some cable news outlet here in America?
Wolf Blitzer CNN is worried about copycats. Who is more likely to copycat?
     
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Feb 18, 2010, 07:19 PM
 
Someone from another site called this guy anarcho-huckster and provided this link:

There is NOTHING anarchistic about capitalism!
Bush Tax Cuts == Job Killer
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June 2003: 129,839,000 employed
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Wolf Blitzer CNN is worried about copycats. Who is more likely to copycat?

I would say that mentally disturbed people are most likely to copycat.
     
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Feb 18, 2010, 07:21 PM
 
And people with pilot licenses.

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Feb 18, 2010, 07:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by hyteckit View Post
Someone from another site called this guy anarcho-huckster and provided this link:

There is NOTHING anarchistic about capitalism!
Whoever wrote that is an utter cock. Anarcho-capitalism is the only form of anarchism which isn't communism in disguise.
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Feb 18, 2010, 07:40 PM
 
OK. Interesting thing. Just seen some pics.
Is it not a little strange how an itty bitty place crashing into a small office building makes more of a mess than a big ass plane crashing into a five-sided government building?
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Feb 18, 2010, 07:50 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
OK. Interesting thing. Just seen some pics.
Is it not a little strange how an itty bitty place crashing into a small office building makes more of a mess than a big ass plane crashing into a five-sided government building?
9/11 truther = liberal

Doofy is a liberal
Bush Tax Cuts == Job Killer
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June 2003: 129,839,000 employed
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Originally Posted by hyteckit View Post
Doofy is a liberal
In the classical sense of the word, yes.
Do what you like as long as you ain't doing it on my property or expecting me to pay for it.
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Feb 18, 2010, 08:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
"The IRS are bastards and the Amerikan population are brainwashed morons so I'm going to kill myself in a spectacular manner in order to make a point".

There ya go.
This is a PERFECT one-sentence summary of that long, long, too-long, initial post.
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
OK. Interesting thing. Just seen some pics.
Is it not a little strange how an itty bitty place crashing into a small office building makes more of a mess than a big ass plane crashing into a five-sided government building?
He hit the ground/wall in front. The spray of fuel and debris on fire hit the building and caused the broad damage on the facade of the building. My guess, this is why so few were killed inside.

cause we're not quite "the fuzz"
     
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Feb 18, 2010, 09:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
OK. Interesting thing. Just seen some pics.
Is it not a little strange how an itty bitty place crashing into a small office building makes more of a mess than a big ass plane crashing into a five-sided government building?
Now let's run your question through a reality filter and see what we come out with:


*calculating.....*



*ding!* finished.

Is it not a little strange how an itty bitty place crashing into an ordinary office building makes way less of a mess (13 people injured in the building, 1 killed on the plane) than a big ass plane crashing into one of the most heavily fortified government buildings in the world with hellathick reinforced concrete walls (125 people killed in the building and 64 killed on the plane)?
And of course the answer: Nope, not the slightest bit strange.
     
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Feb 18, 2010, 09:15 PM
 
You'd think a big-ass plane flown into a heavily fortified building would at least create as much surrounding debris as an itty bitty place flown into a normal building, wouldn't you? You know, the unyielding fortification making the debris bounce off the building and back onto the surrounding area and all that.

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Feb 18, 2010, 09:23 PM
 
I'm sure in the Doofiverse it wasn't actually a plane that crashed into the IRS building. It was a missle fired by the CIA. It's all part of a plot by Earth Emperor Barry as phase one of garnering sympathy for the IRS so that he can begin the takeover of Monaco's tax-shelter status. The real Joe Stack and his airplane are being held in a cave in New Mexico along with the 9/11 jets and passengers.

I should note that I ran the reality filter on earth in the known universe, not the Doofiverse, so that probably explains the differing results.
     
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You stick with that then Crash. You're obviously enjoying it.

Don't forget to pay yer taxes.
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Did Loose Change air again on the Beeb?
     
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How would I know? I haven't had an idiot lantern for years.
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I mean, look at that. Only a leftie radical would attempt something like that.
You have proven again to be clueless. You've never heard of an atheist who was also a capitalist?
     
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a moment of silence for those who died
     
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Stack's politics were Stack-centric. He felt he was being persecuted -personally- by the IRS. He wasn't part of any sort of organized anything-read his rant! He was "needy," indeed. He was also pretty much cracked. How would burning down his house "teach anyone a lesson?" How would any of that do anything for him at all? It was simple: he lost it and decided he'd get some revenge on the IRS by flying his plane into one of their offices.

For the record, the main regional office of the IRS is near the intersection of I-35 and US 71, about 12 air miles south of the building he flew into. He may have had dealings with the investigation/enforcement offices in his target building (funny how making mistakes on your taxes when you make a lot of money gets people asking you questions), which would be one way he became aware of the offices there. Also it's interesting that he flew into the IRS instead of an FBI field office in the building next door, which would have been a more interesting political statement.

Stack was a whack job in my opinion. A dangerous one because he wasn't being looked after. Nobody noticed when he tipped over the edge, and that cost at least one innocent person his life, plus the two critically burned people currently hospitalized because of his plane crash.

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Also it's interesting that he flew into the IRS instead of an FBI field office in the building next door, which would have been a more interesting political statement.
He rants about "Big Brother" then flies into "The Echelon Building".
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
He rants about "Big Brother" then flies into "The Echelon Building".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon...s_intelligence)
The Url links to a bastard page; When the page loads click on "Did You Mean: Echelon (signals intelligence)
Nice Link!
     
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Originally Posted by Orion27 View Post
The Url links to a bastard page; When the page loads click on "Did You Mean: Echelon (signals intelligence)
Seems the auto-url thingy doesn't like URLs which end in a close bracket. Hopefully fixed.
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
You'd think a big-ass plane flown into a heavily fortified building would at least create as much surrounding debris as an itty bitty place flown into a normal building, wouldn't you? You know, the unyielding fortification making the debris bounce off the building and back onto the surrounding area and all that.

Keep payin' yer taxes, Crash.
What is this "heavily fortified" thing? The Pentagon is just a building. And an OLD building at that, so a little heavier than most. But it isn't a fort -- it's just shaped like one. It wasn't designed to withstand any kind of blast, not originally at least.
     
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Feb 19, 2010, 04:56 PM
 
He hated the Bush admin, Big gov't and lived in CA for most of his life. LIBERAL! The Alabama nutcase college professor woman was too. She was all about 0bama. This is why you won't hear about their liberal leanings from the MSM.
     
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He hated the Bush admin, Big gov't and lived in CA for most of his life. LIBERAL! The Alabama nutcase college professor woman was too. She was all about 0bama. This is why you won't hear about their liberal leanings from the MSM.

It must be nice for the world to be this simple.
     
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Feb 19, 2010, 06:27 PM
 
The implications of media bias when covering such stories is not simple. The MSM liberals have been mis-characterizing this for the last 30 hours. Care to compare opinion as fact coverage vs actual facts brought to light?
     
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Feb 19, 2010, 06:31 PM
 
No, because I haven't been paying to the MSM. Why should I? Why should you?
     
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In a band... LUBYRAL!!!
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I'm diggin' these.
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Feb 19, 2010, 08:58 PM
 
Pilot error if I've ever seen it, from the way he managed his home fire policy through his politics, to his marriage. (only because I'm not sure if he was any good at the keyboard)

The tragedy IMO is the good man that lost his life not tryin' to fly anything that I know of; Vernon Hunter.

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Wow. Nice link there. Notice how the article repeatedly uses the word "fly"...

Urban slang for cool, hot or in style - an obvious attempt to make the reader subconsciously associate the attack with African Americans.

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