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starman · May 22, 2014, 02:36 PM

Take a look at it. They're hinting at something awesome, and it's VERY un-Apple to do this.

https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/schedule/

boy8cookie · May 22, 2014, 02:41 PM

Seems like placeholder text to me...

starman · May 22, 2014, 02:45 PM

Yes, it's placeholder text, but it's more like a tease.

Typical Apple would just say "To be announced".

subego · May 22, 2014, 03:04 PM

Can someone copypasta for the desktop impaired? All I get is a link to their WWDC iOS app.

starman · May 22, 2014, 04:30 PM

9:00 AM-10:00 AM Presidio No Comment

9:00 AM-10:00 AM Marina This One Is Sealed

9:00 AM-10:00 AM Mission Shhhh, Can't Tell You Yet

10:15 AM-11:15 AM Presidio Still Our Secret

10:15 AM-11:15 AM Marina You’ll Find Out in a Few Days

10:15 AM-11:15 AM Mission It's Still Confidential

Laminar · May 22, 2014, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by subego

Can someone copypasta for the desktop impaired? All I get is a link to their WWDC iOS app.

FYI, "copypasta" is a noun, not a verb.

subego · May 22, 2014, 06:52 PM

I'm using a noun as a verb. Like "to Google".

Laminar · May 22, 2014, 07:03 PM

It doesn't work in context - you're not asking someone to take a block of text and repeat it over and over again until it becomes a meme.

subego · May 22, 2014, 10:16 PM

Well... that's true.

turtle777 · May 24, 2014, 08:16 PM

This is typical Apple: announce nothing and get tons of press coverage. Brilliant.

-t

andi*pandi · May 24, 2014, 11:43 PM

It's a little bit more coy than usual.

"3:15 PM 4:15 PM Pacific Heights Wouldn’t You Like to Know Frameworks"

subego · May 25, 2014, 11:12 AM

I'd say that goes beyond coy and gets into troll territory.

OreoCookie · May 26, 2014, 04:48 AM

Apart from the cheekiness (which seems a bit odd coming from Apple), I don't think this signifies anything other than TBA. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Doc HM · May 27, 2014, 01:55 PM

Cue cries of OMG Apple are going to announce EVERYTHING

Cue Apple announcing iOS7.2

Cue mass dissapoinent and share price slump.

Rinse. Repeat.

andi*pandi · May 27, 2014, 02:39 PM

but... but... iWatch? No? No one?

Mike Wuerthele · May 27, 2014, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Doc HM

Cue cries of OMG Apple are going to announce EVERYTHING

Cue Apple announcing iOS7.2

Cue mass dissapoinent and share price slump.

Rinse. Repeat.

Although, Apple could announce 8.0 NOW WITH ADDED MONEY PRINTING FOR USERS and the stock price would STILL slump.

ajprice · Jun 2, 2014, 01:03 PM

Might as well have the WWDC talk here. Keynote streaming has started with a video about developers.

http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014/ and the Apple TV icon.

subego · Jun 2, 2014, 01:07 PM

I was about to start a thread entitled "Yawn".

Laminar · Jun 2, 2014, 01:33 PM

"It's really nice."

andi*pandi · Jun 2, 2014, 01:39 PM

mobile hotspot? yes please.

mindwaves · Jun 2, 2014, 01:41 PM

I can't watch the lifestream for some reason, but The Verge has a great live blog. Liking the stuff so far.

ajprice · Jun 2, 2014, 01:45 PM

I'm liking OS X , just need a new mac to run it

Jawbone54 · Jun 2, 2014, 01:47 PM

The "green text" section killed it, IMHO. I'm liking what I see so far.

Spotlight's much-needed upgrade hits the spot.

Chongo · Jun 2, 2014, 01:54 PM

looks like iOS8 showing on an iPhone 6

mindwaves · Jun 2, 2014, 02:04 PM

It kind of does look like a new iPhone.

P · Jun 2, 2014, 02:07 PM

Continuity is going to be great if it works, including people on the multitasking screen is odd but useful, iCloud Drive is the first good news from that front in...ever (Photostream is actually good, but they utterly failed to explain that), keyboard improvements are interesting and might get the Swype-junkies to shut up for a minute or two, faster Safari never hurt... no hardware yet.

mindwaves · Jun 2, 2014, 02:08 PM

Continuity would be great if it works. I still have iCloud bookmark sharing taking a few minutes to sync....

ajprice · Jun 2, 2014, 02:10 PM

Here comes the healthy bit.

mindwaves · Jun 2, 2014, 02:18 PM

It seems the iOS 8 interface is the same as before. I was hoping for more than just a row of icons.

ajprice · Jun 2, 2014, 02:24 PM

'Hey Siri', the iOS 'OK Google'.

ajprice · Jun 2, 2014, 02:34 PM

iOS 8 extensions, including installable keyboards, hello Swype.

mindwaves · Jun 2, 2014, 02:48 PM

New programming language? Yes, please. I may be inclined to learn programming again.

ajprice · Jun 2, 2014, 02:57 PM

iPhone 4S minimum for iOS 8, so I'll need a new phone too if I want in on it. Tim's wrapping up, so it looks like it's software only.

Hawkeye_a · Jun 2, 2014, 03:07 PM

Yosemite looks alright (an improvement from Mavericks anyway). I especially like the new look of the Dock and the dark theme. Not sure about the transparency and the lack of Aqua. (I might be sentimental about Aqua). But it seems like Aqua is giving way to Apple-Metro (flat).

I'm shocked there was no mention of any new hardware considering we're halfway through 2014. If they plan on releasing Yosemite and iOS8 in the latter half, and upgrade all the iDevices and some Macs in the same half....then that's a really crowded release schedule.

Jawbone54 · Jun 2, 2014, 03:08 PM

A bit disappointed in the lack of new hardware. Not entirely unexpected, but still.

ort888 · Jun 2, 2014, 03:11 PM

I like what I've seen.

P · Jun 2, 2014, 03:58 PM

Metal is interesting. Low-level graphics APIs are all the rage right now - I wonder if this will mean that developers can reuse shaders written for DirectX 12 and Mantle. Because that wasn't just iOS, was it?

Hawkeye_a · 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by P

Metal is interesting. Low-level graphics APIs are all the rage right now - I wonder if this will mean that developers can reuse shaders written for DirectX 12 and Mantle. Because that wasn't just iOS, was it?

It looked like Metal was iOS (or maybe Apple) specific. (I could be completely wrong)

EDIT>>Looks like its A7 specific
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/06...ment-platform/

P · Jun 2, 2014, 05:50 PM

OK, so it's essentially Mantle for the GPU Apple uses then - or perhaps better to say that it is like the graphics architecture of the PS4 or Xbone. I guess that this means that Apple is set on which GPU-family to use in the future, and any rumors that they're building their own will have to be paused for a while.

It's still good news for the Mac. It shows that Apple is interested I reducing the overhead in GPU operations, something that is sorely needed for OpenGL on the Mac.

Laminar · Jun 2, 2014, 09:15 PM

Signed up for the Yosemite beta program.

P · Jun 3, 2014, 03:48 AM

Most hilarious new feature: Swift uses Unicode in everything, not just strings but also variable names. Unicode includes Emojiis, so var

= 1 is now valid code.

Jawbone54 · Jun 3, 2014, 10:25 AM

I don't know the first thing about coding, but that makes me happy.

Hawkeye_a · Jun 3, 2014, 11:36 AM

I'm actually liking Yosemite's new look for the most part. The fonts look better and the translucency is nice (however it did remind me of Windows7 ugh). Luckily the icons are not overly simplified and saturated like in iOS.

The only minor critiques i have is of the window buttons (close, minimize and maximie)... their chance to completely flat looks off...inconsistent. I think regular buttons still maintain some 'aquaness', and it should be the same for these buttons. I dont understand why the sidebar icons in the finder are gray-scale (the label icons in the sidebar are not). And the trash icon is kinda meh.

But i do like the desktop going minimalistic .

Jawbone54 · Jun 3, 2014, 12:25 PM

I think iOS 7 caused everyone's brains to explode, but it's a step in the right direction, IMHO. Minimalism is timeless and clean, which always fit Apple more than skeuomorphism, but it's a work in progress.

Yosemite looks good so far.

[EDIT] They still don't know what to do with the look of iBooks though.

subego · Jun 3, 2014, 01:01 PM

I should eat some crow here. People seem to have dug it.

turtle777 · Jun 3, 2014, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

And the trash icon is kinda meh .

The trash icon is absolute rubbish. Pun intended.

-t

besson3c · Jun 3, 2014, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by andi*pandi

mobile hotspot? yes please.

I've been curious as to whether this works with all carriers without paying them extra money. Anybody?

turtle777 · Jun 3, 2014, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

I've been curious as to whether this works with all carriers without paying them extra money. Anybody?

100% chance that's not the case.

All it will be is a quick way to activate tethering.
Right now, you have to go and turn on the hotspot manually. This will be a zero config way.
No way the carriers are going to allow this w/o extra charges. This isn't Apple's call.

-t

Doc HM · Jun 4, 2014, 02:01 AM

Oh ess ten. Ten point ten point 1 Yosemite.

And smart guys get to ne these things?

besson3c · Jun 4, 2014, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by turtle777

100% chance that's not the case.

All it will be is a quick way to activate tethering.
Right now, you have to go and turn on the hotspot manually. This will be a zero config way.
No way the carriers are going to allow this w/o extra charges. This isn't Apple's call.

-t

This is my assumption too, but I was hoping to be surprised. Oh well, I'm only going to be with AT&T (and in this country) for a few more months, and I can't upgrade anyway because we elected to stick with our iPhone 4 phones until we make the move.