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osiris
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Oct 8, 2003, 05:33 PM
 
Why are the fonts displayed in the forums so small? Is there a preference pane I'm missing in the User Center? I can't read miniscule text on a 19" LCD.

The problem seems to only be in the MacNN forums, not others. If I make the Safari font 14 pt, it stays 14pt. Not here. I'm going blind because of my beloved MacNN forums.
     
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Oct 8, 2003, 05:53 PM
 
Originally posted by osiris:
I'm going blind because of my beloved MacNN forums.
You sure that is why?
     
osiris  (op)
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Oct 8, 2003, 06:07 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
You sure that is why?
heh, heh... maybe it's my hairy palms.
     
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Oct 8, 2003, 07:07 PM
 
Originally posted by osiris:
Why are the fonts displayed in the forums so small? Is there a preference pane I'm missing in the User Center? I can't read miniscule text on a 19" LCD.

The problem seems to only be in the MacNN forums, not others. If I make the Safari font 14 pt, it stays 14pt. Not here. I'm going blind because of my beloved MacNN forums.
I completely agree. Every time I'm on MacNN, I have to hit Command-+ twice, very annoying if you use tabbed browsing (have to increase text size for every tab).
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Oct 8, 2003, 08:16 PM
 
what do your safari appearance settings look like?
i've never had a font size issue with the forums.

here and here are two older threads addressing the same issue.
( Last edited by Demonhood; Oct 8, 2003 at 08:22 PM. )
     
osiris  (op)
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Oct 8, 2003, 09:21 PM
 
Originally posted by Demonhood:
what do your safari appearance settings look like?
i've never had a font size issue with the forums.

here and here are two older threads addressing the same issue.
Safari is using Verdana 16 and Arial 16, but the when I'm on the forum it looks 8-9 pts., and a little blurry.

It may be a combination of Safari mis-handling MacNN, and OS X's Font management; booting in 9 and using iCab, everything is sharper and the font size sticks.

thanks for the threads, I'll check them out.
     
SomeToast
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Oct 9, 2003, 10:47 AM
 
The embedded style definition sets a font-size of 10px for the body.

Unfortunately, the rest of the page has redundant <font face="geneva,verdana, arial, helvetica" size="1"> everywhere, which stomps on the style definition (at least in Safari). You could set the embedded style to 100px, and the body type would still be microscopic.

All those <font> tags need to be stripped out (or a new size-defining style added for "font", but a big part of CSS is removing all that 1997-era bloat).

After that, setting the body style to 11 or 12px would be a huge help. MacNN is the only forum I reach for the "increase font size" button on.
     
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Oct 10, 2003, 05:52 PM
 
Originally posted by Demonhood:
what do your safari appearance settings look like?
i've never had a font size issue with the forums.

here and here are two older threads addressing the same issue.
I am currently using Safari (recently switched from Camino, which had the same problem)
These are the original settings:
Standard font: Lucida Grand 14
Fixed-width font: Courier 14

The forums are very pleasant to look at when the size of these fonts is increased from 14 to 18. Only trouble is that the font is too large on all other web sites.

I checked out the threads that you cited and followed iNeusch's advice:

Using safari ?
Add this to the ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Safari.plist

<key>WebKitMinimumFixedFontSize</key>
<string>11</string>
<key>WebKitMinimumFontSize</key>
<string>11</string>

This sets Safari's minimum font size to 11. I find it to be minimally acceptable but would prefer it to be even larger. I don't think text on the forum should be at the minimum font size (Minimum font size should be for copyright notices at the bottom of the page not for the main content)
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Oct 13, 2003, 04:11 PM
 
I found a solution: The new version of Tinkertool allows the setting of Safari's absolute minumum font size! Setting it to 12 did the job.

Whooo hoo! I can see again!
     
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Oct 13, 2003, 04:35 PM
 
Having to hack Safari to overcome a given site's poor HTML is wrong on so many levels that it boggles the mind.

     
   
 
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