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timmerk · Oct 11, 2003, 05:01 AM

Toast 6 seems to be 10 times slower then Toast 5. Anyone else have this problem? Is there a way to return Toast 6 because of this problem? I'm running a 1ghz 17' Powerbook, with 1 gig of ram, but Toast 6 takes 20 seconds to open for me.

booboo · Oct 11, 2003, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by timmerk:
Toast 6 seems to be 10 times slower then Toast 5. Anyone else have this problem? Is there a way to return Toast 6 because of this problem? I'm running a 1ghz 17' Powerbook, with 1 gig of ram, but Toast 6 takes 20 seconds to open for me.

Why not just re-install Toast 5?

I noticed that when the drawer is open, Toast 6 graphics are really choppy - you can't move its window around the screen smoothly.

Another example of the pointless use of screen-hogging drawers - where functionality would be better served - as it was in 5 - by a menu.

That, and the fact that Toast 6 is butt-ugly, is why I'm using Toast 5

timmerk · Oct 11, 2003, 06:29 AM

Yah, I have both Toast 5 and 6 installed - 6 because it has the CDTEXT feature, which should have been in Toast LONG time ago.

SoGood · Oct 11, 2003, 06:40 AM

Well, v6 seemed to be fine for me. I have no problems with speed.

timmerk · Oct 11, 2003, 06:47 AM

Are you running a Dual G5 2ghz or something then?

:-)

Malcolm Cooke · Oct 11, 2003, 07:14 AM

Toast 6 launches here on the eMac 700 in 5 sec have 1gig ram helps OSX 10.2.8

timmerk · Oct 11, 2003, 07:22 AM

Strange - I just timed 22 seconds from a fresh reboot. I have 1 gig of ram, and 1 ghz g4!

My system is not bloated or anything either.

- - e r i k - - · Oct 11, 2003, 08:04 AM

I have a PowerBook 17" and I have no problems with Toast 6 whatsoever (under Panther). The drawer is open and it moves around smooth as silk.

hodaddy · Oct 11, 2003, 08:27 AM

pb12" 867:
toast 5.2: 4 bounces @ 6sec launch
toast 6: 3 bounces @ 8.5sec launch

nothing significant for me to worry about.

[edit] oh yeah...still running 10.2.6

bsodmike · Oct 11, 2003, 08:31 AM

7sec launch. 1ghz 15" superdrive pbookG4 running Panther 7B85.

mbryda · Oct 11, 2003, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by timmerk:
Yah, I have both Toast 5 and 6 installed - 6 because it has the CDTEXT feature, which should have been in Toast LONG time ago.

Didn't one of the recent updates for Toast 5 enable CD Text support? I think I remember reading that somewhere - may be worth it to check for updates....

taffy · Oct 11, 2003, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by timmerk:
Yah, I have both Toast 5 and 6 installed - 6 because it has the CDTEXT feature, which should have been in Toast LONG time ago.

Toast 5.2.2 does CD-TEXT.

c.

Pauldunlop · Oct 11, 2003, 09:46 AM

I got some info on this from some colleagues in Apple. Toast 6 is optimised heavily for Panther, and those currently running Panther will be able to confirm this easly.

The draw is a small, but good example. It not only looks different in X.2, but performance is very very slow on Jaguar. Compare this to Panther, and you'll see the difference.

Just upgrade to Panther when it comes out and you'll be fine ;-)

wvx · Oct 11, 2003, 10:42 AM

I went right back to 5 after using 6 for about a week. I hate the drawers and the UI is a step back in my opinion. I think they could have really innovated on the UI, even though I thought 5 was really well made. 5 seems more solid to me.

wvx · Oct 11, 2003, 10:44 AM

3 bounces and 16 seconds on my DigitalAudio 533

JeremyS · Oct 11, 2003, 11:25 AM

Perhaps he is referring to the bug that is in Toast 6 that burns some 4X DVDR's at 1X so it takes forever!!

Supposedly this is fixed in 6.01 that is coming.

Devin Lane · Oct 11, 2003, 11:33 AM

3 secs on my MDD DP 867 w/768MB RAM.

Can't see why you would have such a long startup. Are you running anything in the background? Haxies, APE? Any managing products, iTunes, processor-using apps.

Anyway,

macintologist · Oct 11, 2003, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by timmerk:
Strange - I just timed 22 seconds from a fresh reboot. I have 1 gig of ram, and 1 ghz g4!

My system is not bloated or anything either.

Make sure that you wait a minute after your Mac reboots completely because there often a lot of disk activity when you log in and I don't know why. Launching an app in this condition can be very slow, so wait until all the disk activity stops.

Mrjinglesusa · Oct 11, 2003, 12:24 PM

Toast 6 under Panther (7B85) loads in 3 seconds (2 bounces). No complaints here and this is on a 500 MHz Pismo Powerbook with 640 MB RAM.

macgyvr64 · Oct 11, 2003, 12:30 PM

Dual 500 G4/1 Gig/OS X 7B85 here, and Toast 6 launches in 2.5 bounces here, and the burn speed is the same as Toast 5. I couldn't be happier with it.

Though, the Toast 6 GUI lags in Jaguar, it doesn't in 10.3.

*has already said too much*

daydreamer · Oct 11, 2003, 12:46 PM

Toast 6 acts like a bugslow shitapp in Jaguar... even the gui freaks out when replacing the window or opening the drawer..

but.. It FLIES in Panther. It's like toast 6 was built for 10.3

xGrape · Oct 11, 2003, 12:56 PM

About 8 seconds on my 800MHz iMac, 512 MB RAM. And with 7 other apps running, including iTunes.

Moving around the window with the fake-looking drawer open isn't smooth, but you generally never need the drawer open if you ask me. And you never really need to move the window around either. While I liked the interface of Toast 5 - I think the one in 6 is pretty good to, although it does take a bit getting used to. More professional though, imho.

Oh, and OSX 10.2.8...

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 11, 2003, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by booboo:
Why not just re-install Toast 5?

I noticed that when the drawer is open, Toast 6 graphics are really choppy - you can't move its window around the screen smoothly.

For some reason it works fine with Panther.

Zigster · Oct 11, 2003, 03:19 PM

Toast never made any sense.
The setting "Mac OS Extended and PC (Hybrid) CD" could never be read by PCs

So 50% of the CD's I burned were of type "other". And not even the default other, but Joliet.

timmerk · Oct 11, 2003, 04:09 PM

Yah, I'm using 10.2. Sounds like I'll be fine in Panther.

Thanks!

Krelsey · Oct 11, 2003, 04:49 PM

It does indeed work great under Panther. I'm using a 1Ghz 17" iMac with 512 RAM, and using Panther (7B85). Toast is up and running after 2 bounces and 3 seconds for me.

Camelot · Oct 11, 2003, 06:56 PM

I'll start to worry when it takes longer to launch than it does to burn a disk.

Come on. 10 or 20 seconds to load? puhleeeeze.

How many times a day do you launch the darned app, anyway.

macgyvr64 · Oct 11, 2003, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by Camelot:
I'll start to worry when it takes longer to launch than it does to burn a disk.

Come on. 10 or 20 seconds to load? puhleeeeze.

How many times a day do you launch the darned app, anyway.

How much RAM do you have? It should NOT take that long... Have you run any disk cleaning utility lately? fsck? DiskWarrior?

Titanium Man · Oct 11, 2003, 08:10 PM

About 7 seconds on a Dual 1GHz QS w/1.5GB RAM. And I've got four different web browsers, a newsreader, Maya and six other apps running at the moment.

I do have to agree that I much prefer the 5.x interface to 6. It was cleaner and easier to use for me. Still, it beats Nero any day.

h00ligan · Oct 11, 2003, 09:03 PM

i had this issue as well, i will say that panther resolves it completely

i had a case of the screen redraws looked terrible, that is resolved as well.

Liquidity X · Oct 11, 2003, 11:44 PM

yup wait for panther, 2 bounces to open, no lag when dragging, flys. just be patient and wait.

gartenmuzik · Oct 12, 2003, 12:17 AM

I'm sorry to say this but I'm running a cube 450MHZ with 768MB Ram and Toast 6 (I had it timed by me and by my partner here on both our watches about 5 times) opens in about six seconds WITH the drawer out... It was installed with the purchased cd. The only thing I can think about is keeping your mac clean... I must say that I have started using the Jaguar cache cleaner lately and it's been GRRRRRREAT!

Apart from that, I can't understand why you'd have this problem!

Gul Banana · Oct 12, 2003, 12:40 AM

It opens in about 1 second for me, with the drawer out. 1 GHz G4, 448 MB RAM, 10.2.8.
Dragging the window around, though, is very very slow.

jjokerski · Oct 12, 2003, 10:41 AM

Where can I get 5.2.2? Roxio's site has 5.2.1 as the latest update to 5. I'd love CDTEXT but I'm not going to update to 6 to get it.

macimmortal · Oct 12, 2003, 11:34 AM

" Make sure that you wait a minute after your Mac reboots completely because there often a lot of disk activity when you log in and I don't know why. Launching an app in this condition can be very slow, so wait until all the disk activity stops."

Wouldn't it be nice if there were SOME way of knowing IDE disk activity on a computer that is supposed to be so advanced?

jjokerski · Oct 12, 2003, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by macimmortal:
Wouldn't it be nice if there were SOME way of knowing IDE disk activity on a computer that is supposed to be so advanced?

iPulse: http://www.iconfactory.com/ip_home.asp

timliszt · Oct 12, 2003, 01:34 PM

I just tried launching Toast Titanium 6 on my PowerPC G4, 867 MHz running OSX v10.2.8, and the app launched in under 5 seconds, BUT moving the application window around is quite 'hurky-jerky'.

Much more jumpy than moving around other windows (any Finder window), or this MS-IE window. It's unattractive, to be sure, but Toast otherwise seems to run well.

btbeme · Oct 12, 2003, 02:46 PM

I am running a dual 1.42 with 2 GB of RAM, and the latest (Gold Master) version of Panther. Toast 6 is not only "plenty fast" in this config, it is substantially faster that Toast 5 on the exact same system. One bounce and 2 seconds to open, stable, and - I agree - butt-ugly and much more complex visually than necessary. My mother, who is new to computers, loves it, though - very "pretty".

Enough of these haxies that change the visual appearance of the application. Why not release software that the user can reconfigure in several different ways to adjust for their knowledge level and needs? Apple has done just that with DVD Studio Pro 2 and it is terrific!

Marioz · Oct 12, 2003, 03:14 PM

On my Pb 17' with 1Gb of RAM and a 7200 rpm HD, running 10.3 7B85 Toast 6.0.1 takes 1 sec to launch. No problems with disc burning speed. No problems at all. It works great!

rspress · Oct 12, 2003, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by timmerk:
Strange - I just timed 22 seconds from a fresh reboot. I have 1 gig of ram, and 1 ghz g4!

My system is not bloated or anything either.

Toast launched from a fresh reboot in about 5 seconds on an 800Mhz G4 eMac with 768MB RAM running OS X 10.2.8.

Question: do you run your Macs house keeping routines yourself or is the Mac on at 4:30 in the morning so it can do it itself? Use MacJanitor to run them if you are unsure that they have been run....this can give you a speed boost but it seems that you have other problems.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 12, 2003, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by macimmortal:
Wouldn't it be nice if there were SOME way of knowing IDE disk activity on a computer that is supposed to be so advanced?

It is built into 10.3 and none of that iconfactory iPulse crap either, this one you can actually read.

mum · Oct 13, 2003, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by Zigster:
Toast never made any sense.
The setting "Mac OS Extended and PC (Hybrid) CD" could never be read by PCs

So 50% of the CD's I burned were of type "other". And not even the default other, but Joliet.

What? I never wrote a "Mac OS Extended and PC (Hybrid) CD" that couldn't be read by a PC, and I've written literally thousands - all PC- or Mac-using customers.

kevinkwasnicki · Oct 13, 2003, 02:11 PM

Hi, just got toast 6, can't figure how to burn a dvd from VIDEO_TS folder.
In toast 5.0 you just went to other and DVD, but toast 6 has no such thing.

Help Please

oscar · Oct 13, 2003, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by macimmortal:
" Make sure that you wait a minute after your Mac reboots completely because there often a lot of disk activity when you log in and I don't know why. Launching an app in this condition can be very slow, so wait until all the disk activity stops."

Wouldn't it be nice if there were SOME way of knowing IDE disk activity on a computer that is supposed to be so advanced?

try "sudo fs_usage" in terminal add a " >fs_usage.txt" to log it.

dabigdawg · Oct 13, 2003, 03:57 PM

The only thing I have noticed slow is the audio conversions from mp3 to aif making regular audio cd's aside from that it burns and runs fine for me on both my aging PCI G4 350 and my Ti 1ghz 15" powerbook.

I am running the liteon 52x in the desktop and the superdrive with updated firmware in the powerbook. I was previously using Toast 5.1 which to me seemed slower, I can run a compare if anyone is interested.

Blinger · Oct 13, 2003, 07:15 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kevinkwasnicki:
[B]Hi, just got toast 6, can't figure how to burn a dvd from VIDEO_TS folder.
In toast 5.0 you just went to other and DVD, but toast 6 has no such thing.

1) Choose Data
2) Choose DVD-ROM (UDF)
3) Click on New Disc
4) Drag & drop your VIDEO_TS folder into Toast
5) Click Record

OR, if you don't have a VIDEO_TS folder yet

1) Choose Video
2) Choose DVD
3) Drag & drop your video or photos into Toast
4) Click Record to encode and record

kevinkwasnicki · 01:25 AM

Thanks

Okay I tried it and it works, but man it hogs the CPU, I have a dual 800 and with toast 5 working in the background I can go on the internet and listen to iTunes, with toast 6, everything is real slowwwwwwwwww.

kevinkwasnicki · Oct 25, 2003, 03:57 PM

well with panther toast 6 seems much better.

Bruck · Oct 25, 2003, 04:10 PM

I am running Toast 6 in panther, on a 1.25ghz pb15 and it loads in 3 seconds.

That is not "slow" in my opinion

Landos Mustache · Oct 25, 2003, 04:44 PM

I think they wrote this app with 10.3 in mind as it runs slow as hell (moving windows) in 10.2 but things are fine in 10.3.