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using Final Cut Studio with a MBP
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Hi All.
Anyone is using Final Cut Studio on a MBP?
I would specially use DVDSP and Motion.
How good does it take the encodings to m2v?
PS: Would the 100GB 7200rpm be better than the 120 at 5400? Sometime it is a "cache" story and the 2 discs end up with almost the same performance...
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I don't think Final Cut Studio Universal has begun shipping yet. And yes, the 7200rpm is faster than the 5400rpm drive. I don't know about "better", though. It depends on how you use your MBP. If you're doing a lot of Final Cut Studio, I would go with the 7200 rpm drive. You lose 20GB, but I wouldn't think 120GB would be enough anyway so you'd most likely have mass external storage.
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Just a heads up, I've installed Final Cut Pro 5 and it loads. I haven't tried to use it for anything yet, so it might crash during rendering or exporting, but it does load.
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Ideally you'd use one or more external drives for capture, storage and scratch ... relying on the internal drive alone isn't ideal. Hopefully there are some expresscard/34 FW800 or eSATA cards in the works, to keep the built-in FW400 for a camera or deck.
FCS Intel won't ship until late March IIRC, and the cross-grade for existing licences is $49.
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The universal: "Shipping March 2006", that is now-ish.
But damn! I thought that it was out already!..
I do not understand that they (Apple) launch a "Pro" Hardware without sofware..
They knew about the Harware coming out,... right?
Sometimes I just wonder..
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I haven't installed the FinalCut studio suite yet since Aperture gives me that wonderful message about incompatible hardware. I'll install FCP studio this evening and give it a shot.
J.
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Converted 4/29/05
G5 20" iMac 2.0Ghz, 1 Gig Ram
G5 Dual 2.5Ghz Power Mac, X800 XT, 2.5 Gig Ram, 23" ACD
G4 Mac Mini 1.5GHz, 512MB Ram, 64MB VRam, Int. Modem
MacBook Pro 2.00GHz, X1600-256MB, 2.0 Gig Ram, 100GB 7200RPM HD, USB Modem
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Hi J.
Thanks for the feedback! :o)
PS: Wow! I am impressed by your Hardware! What are you doing with ALL this?
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So have I got this right, Final Cut Pro (PowerPC version) actually runs on the Intel hardware, even though it has been publicised as not being able to...?
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Zubro,
I'm a "switcher".
iMac --> kids/wife computer
Dual G5 --> 3d animiation, video editing, gaming computer (not a pro, just as hobby)
Mac Mini --> Home Server (Print/Fax)
MacBook Pro --> For the on the go. Hoping to get all my graphics tools loaded and working.
J.
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MacBook Pro 2.00GHz, X1600-256MB, 2.0 Gig Ram, 100GB 7200RPM HD, USB Modem
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harrisjamieh: yup
Well, like I said, it loads, but I haven't actually USED it yet, just jumped into it real quick to see if it would work.
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I installed the FCP Studio suite this evening. I didn't go into much detail with each app but they all did open. I was able to play a quick clip in FCP and flip through some templates in Motion. Below is a screen capture with all of the applications open. Of them all, DVD Studio took the longest to open. Almost thought it crashed.
http://homepage.mac.com/jhogarty/FCPS-MacBookPro.png
More to come....
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G4 Mac Mini 1.5GHz, 512MB Ram, 64MB VRam, Int. Modem
MacBook Pro 2.00GHz, X1600-256MB, 2.0 Gig Ram, 100GB 7200RPM HD, USB Modem
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I would go with the largest hard drive you can. I use FCS on the latest Powerbook with a 120GB HD. DV video is fine on the 5400rpm drive, but you'll likely do most of your editing off external drives if you really are a pro. The fact that FCS takes up about 35-40GB of disk space, you'll want the largest drive you can get.
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jhogarty, nice one! :o)
Funny it "just works"... but real cool also! :oD
MovieCutter, I understand the need for the "biggest" HDD but from 100 to 120, i believe it is rpm that talks! ;o) (well, I can also be wrong..)
And yes, ALL my data is out on BIG HDD, amaizing how f-a--s---t those things just fillup!..
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Ya I noticed that Final Cut Pro studio took up a ton of space. I'm now down to 5.74GB and I started with a 100GB 7200RPM drive. I did notice that my iTunes library is taking up way too much space. About 26GB. I'll clean that out as I normally keep that on my server. I must have imported the whole libary to the MacBook by accident.
While on the subject, are there any other areas of "bloat" that I can wipe out?
J.
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G5 Dual 2.5Ghz Power Mac, X800 XT, 2.5 Gig Ram, 23" ACD
G4 Mac Mini 1.5GHz, 512MB Ram, 64MB VRam, Int. Modem
MacBook Pro 2.00GHz, X1600-256MB, 2.0 Gig Ram, 100GB 7200RPM HD, USB Modem
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You can install a lot of the template information for FCS on an external if you want to save room. The apps themselves are not that big.
I actually just read a post on this somewhere recently, it mentioned monolingual (removes language files and can save quite a bit of space) and disk inventory x which lets you analyze what is where.
It is amazing how quick it all goes though ain't it?
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The fact that FCS takes up about 35-40GB of disk space, you'll want the largest drive you can get.
Did I read that right? Forgive me for my PC-born naïvety, but as a lowly premiere pro user I've never heard of any program taking up that much space alone. Even the Adobe Suite clocks in at no more than a couple gigs.
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It's not the application itself, its all the template, loop and "media" files the programs access.
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Wow, that's nuts. But, in that case I would imagine the 100/120gig difference is fairly negligible for a serious editor, and thus not worth the slower rpms. (for the record, I think anything less than 7200 is ridiculous for a $2G+ system)
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Thanks hakstooy, I'll look into your two suggestions. I just nuked the "Test Drive" Office software and the Trial Quickbooks.
J.
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G5 20" iMac 2.0Ghz, 1 Gig Ram
G5 Dual 2.5Ghz Power Mac, X800 XT, 2.5 Gig Ram, 23" ACD
G4 Mac Mini 1.5GHz, 512MB Ram, 64MB VRam, Int. Modem
MacBook Pro 2.00GHz, X1600-256MB, 2.0 Gig Ram, 100GB 7200RPM HD, USB Modem
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OK, I finally got to trying out some work in FCP.
Slow.
Unusably slow.
When I got a 15 minute render time for a 5 second transition I said...
You better finish up your projects on the PPC Macs until the Universal Binary versions are released.
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Good info hak! :o) Thanks!
Regarding the disk space taken by the Apps, the samples take far too much, yep!
A simple App like DVD SP goes over the G!... Remember when Photoshop was Huge on OS9 over 100 MB... (I still run it on my good old 8600:oD
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