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f1000 · Feb 9, 2005, 10:03 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4250315.stm

Apple Pro Underwear · Feb 9, 2005, 10:08 AM

holy crap, they were going in a unique and sucessful dirrection too

PREDICTION:

1. HP mp3 player that sucks
2. HP music store that sucks

Mastrap · Feb 9, 2005, 10:25 AM

They lost their nerve. Interesting.

Kenneth · Feb 9, 2005, 11:26 AM

One of the shareholders here.

OldManMac · Feb 9, 2005, 11:43 AM

Not surprising. The business press has been reporting for some time that there were disagreements between her and the board. When you have a board of conservative, play-it-safe people, and someone keeps trying to take the company in unknown directions, this result is inevitable.

MacGorilla · Feb 9, 2005, 11:48 AM

She promised after Compaq merger the combined company would be Big and Awesome, like an IBM. It hasn't happened.

Eriamjh · Feb 9, 2005, 12:15 PM

Hmmm. No more HP iPod by Apple?

My guess is the HP iPod has done more for Apple than it has for HP. Wasn't there a link that said only 8% of all iPods sold during the holidays was an HP?

Cody Dawg · Feb 9, 2005, 12:33 PM

Carly is a very nice person.

However, she made some very unpopular decisions, such as outsourcing practically every job she could.

Having said that, I no longer care about whether or not a job is outsourced. I think it's great, actually. I love calling India. I just got off of the telephone where I was talking to a young man in Bangladore and his name was Rahul and he's really a cool guy. I'm glad that people are doing well via HP no matter where they are.

That said, the outsourcing issue was a huge problem with a lot of board members - or so I heard.

I see that HP's stock is also up 10% now that she's quit her job.

E's Lil Theorem · Feb 9, 2005, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Cody Dawg:
...
That said, the outsourcing issue was a huge problem with a lot of board members - or so I heard.
...

As far as I know, what did it was this:

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
She promised after Compaq merger the combined company would be Big and Awesome, like an IBM. It hasn't happened.

After the press announced that the merger had failed, the Board would not let her do anything "big." She got fed up; the Board got fed up and the result was announced today.

Due to the economic environment we've been in for the past four years or so, I say it'll be another five years before you can really say whether the merger failed or not. But, I don't sit on the HP board, so my opinion counts zero

Cody Dawg · Feb 9, 2005, 12:58 PM

Hey, E, is that Carly's tummy in your sig?

wdlove · Feb 9, 2005, 01:05 PM

I wish Carly and HP well in the future. Changes happen.

E's Lil Theorem · Feb 9, 2005, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Cody Dawg:
Hey, E, is that Carly's tummy in your sig?

Hah, maybe

[shameless plug] Speaking of which, you should submit yours

[/shameless plug]

Cody Dawg · 01:52 PM

Hey, E, with or without my baby?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...y_Dawg/Me1.jpg
[Inline images must be no wider than 480 pixels. Use URLs for larger images. --tooki]

historylme · Feb 9, 2005, 01:48 PM

is that really you?

WoW if so.

Cody Dawg · Feb 9, 2005, 01:49 PM

Yes, it is. And I can't get the picture smaller...I feel immodest!

Cody Dawg · Feb 9, 2005, 01:52 PM

Fixed it!

historylme · Feb 9, 2005, 01:52 PM

Then let me add that you are very pleasant on the eyes. And from your comments and post, quite a carring individual.

It's nice to put a face to the name, especially if the person is hot.

edit: don't worry, I wont become a stocker. As if I could.

Cody Dawg · Feb 9, 2005, 01:56 PM

You should become a "stocker" if you work for Wal-Mart.

Thanks for the compliment. My hair is much longer now, though. That's from last August.

historylme · Feb 9, 2005, 02:02 PM

Yeah, I'm a horrible speller. I never got the english spelling thing down.

E's Lil Theorem · Feb 9, 2005, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Cody Dawg:
Hey, E, with or without my baby?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...y_Dawg/Me1.jpg
[Inline images must be no wider than 480 pixels. Use URLs for larger images. --tooki]

Thanks

Oh, and without would be best, but I can work with this image.

brutal · Feb 9, 2005, 02:27 PM

She probably quit to pursue her singing career.

macintologist · Feb 9, 2005, 02:34 PM

I'd hit it if I was 50.

Cody Dawg · Feb 9, 2005, 02:44 PM

brutal: That was very amusing!

LOL!

turtle777 · Feb 9, 2005, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by brutal:
She probably quit to pursue her singing career.

Soon on iTMS !?!?!

-t

beb · Feb 9, 2005, 03:24 PM

Does Steve have any free time?

Twilly Spree · Feb 9, 2005, 03:32 PM

... maybe they should try for this man. He looks like the one for the job.

E's Lil Theorem · Feb 9, 2005, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by Twilly Spree:
[img]http://www.ibm.com/ibm/sjp/sjp.gif[img]

... maybe they should try for this man. He looks like the one for the job.

For the moment, they're going with this guy:

Spliff · Feb 9, 2005, 03:57 PM

They never forgave here for making a deal with Apple. Now that she's gone, watch them run back to Microsoft and beg forgiveness.

nredman · Feb 9, 2005, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by brutal:

She probably quit to pursue her singing career.

yuck, short hair on women

Apple Pro Underwear · Feb 9, 2005, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by nredman:
yuck, short hair on women

thats like my favorite thing

i also like ties on women too

OldManMac · Feb 9, 2005, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by Spliff:
They never forgave here for making a deal with Apple. Now that she's gone, watch them run back to Microsoft and beg forgiveness.

That had some effect on the decision, although not a direct one, I suspect. She was going in many directions at once, and the board was afraid of her losing focus on the printer business, which is their big money maker.

Short hair on women:

goMac · Feb 9, 2005, 04:23 PM

She was unpopular at HP because she basically did everything she could to make life uncomfortable for employees. Outsourcing, cutting jobs, cutting benefits, insane increases to work load, getting rid of the innovative divisions. Good riddance.

maxintosh · Feb 9, 2005, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by E's Lil Theorem:
Hah, maybe

[shameless plug] Speaking of which, you should submit yours [/shameless plug]

What the HECK is going on with your stomach? It looks like a butt, with that crease and the way the legs fold down.

historylme · Feb 9, 2005, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by maxintosh:
What the HECK is going on with your stomach? It looks like a butt, with that crease and the way the legs fold down.

WHAT!
That is one sexy tummy! E is doing god's work

... still, great site.

maxintosh · Feb 9, 2005, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by history1me:
WHAT!
That is one sexy tummy! E is doing god's work ... still, great site.

I'm sorry I just don't understand why (or how) the legs are folded down like that. And it looks like a butt crack. LOL.

E's Lil Theorem · Feb 9, 2005, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by maxintosh:
I'm sorry I just don't understand why (or how) the legs are folded down like that. And it looks like a butt crack. LOL.

Huh? I think you're confused. She's laying on a couch, her head on the left (and hanging off of the couch) and legs on the right. The green part is the girl's shirt covering her breasts. The pink is her undies. Her left knee is bent while her right is straight (you can sort of see this on the image in my sig - you can definitely see it on the full image).

The actual tummy on the site (not the full one):

You can better see the hips and pierced tummy.

maxintosh · Feb 9, 2005, 05:01 PM

OHHHHHHHHHH I thought the green was the pants and the pink the shirt.

storer · Feb 9, 2005, 05:07 PM

Wouldn't you resign if you worked for HP?

E's Lil Theorem · Feb 9, 2005, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by storer:
Wouldn't you resign if you worked for HP?

Depends. And while on paper she resigned, make no mistake about it, she was fired (or asked to leave, same difference).

exca1ibur · Feb 9, 2005, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by E's Lil Theorem:
Depends. And while on paper she resigned, make no mistake about it, she was fired (or asked to leave, same difference).

The corporate option there. For us normal people we just get 'laid off'.

All of the terms mean 'fired'. They have to be careful how they do it due to people going postal now, thats all. LOL

historylme · Feb 9, 2005, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by maxintosh:
OHHHHHHHHHH I thought the green was the pants and the pink the shirt.

OMG LOL, that was good. I see what you were seeing... ooh, that makes a weird shap body for sure. OOH, shivers.

E's Lil Theorem · Feb 9, 2005, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by history1me:
... ooh, that makes a weird shap body for sure. OOH, shivers.

Word. I'm going to modify my sig later so that it shows more of her body to avoid further confusion, though it's clear for most of us

spacefreak · Feb 9, 2005, 07:22 PM

Her tenure at Lucent was just as unastonishing.

She talks a good game, but when it comes down to results, she just can't drive them ong term.

She may be known as a hack who specializes in mergers, acquisitions, and spin-offs. Perhaps her fortay has never been "to grow marketshare and drive short and long-tem profits".

I wonder what the insider scoop is on her. I thought she blew it at Lucent, but then she got a grander job w/ HP? It didn't make sense to me at the time.

E's Lil Theorem · Feb 9, 2005, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by spacefreak:
...I thought she blew it at Lucent, but then she got a grander job w/ HP? It didn't make sense to me at the time.

I was under the impression that she was a superstar at Lucent. Perhaps not.

olePigeon · Feb 9, 2005, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by exca1ibur:
The corporate option there. For us normal people we just get 'laid off'. All of the terms mean 'fired'. They have to be careful how they do it due to people going postal now, thats all. LOL

There's a big difference between Fired and Laid Off. Fired means you did something wrong, Laid Off means you don't live in Asia.

exca1ibur · Feb 10, 2005, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by olePigeon:
There's a big difference between Fired and Laid Off. Fired means you did something wrong, Laid Off means you don't live in Asia.

Being both leave you unemployed by the company. Not much is different. Let go is let go, no matter how its sugar coated.

driven · Feb 10, 2005, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
She promised after Compaq merger the combined company would be Big and Awesome, like an IBM. It hasn't happened.

That merger has turned out to be a case study in how NOT to merge two large companies.

Basically HP has gained nothing from it, but they gave away 40% of their own company to do it. (Including the successful printing business)

driven · Feb 10, 2005, 02:09 AM

Originally posted by exca1ibur:
The corporate option there. For us normal people we just get 'laid off'. All of the terms mean 'fired'. They have to be careful how they do it due to people going postal now, thats all. LOL

Unless your name is Donald Trump

goMac · Feb 10, 2005, 02:15 AM

According to some posts at Slashdot, employees report there was, quite literally, dancing in the halls of HP today.

It was also noted a few hours after the announcement Carly's web page had already been removed completely from the corporate bio section and the page was 404.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Feb 10, 2005, 02:22 AM

I honestly think she was the only person on the planet who thought the compaq merger was a good idea.