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Peabo · Jun 29, 2002, 07:00 AM

Another fake maybe? Shouldn't be too long before we find out... <img border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" title="" src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" />

Tommo · Jun 29, 2002, 08:03 AM

Both the 6c63 and 6c75 builds on carracho *currently* are, if not fake, then severely corrupted.

The 6c63 has a corrupt essentials.pkg resource which means it won't work, and the 6c75 disc image has similarly corrupted system/library/frameworks .pkg's.

Its very suspicious that it is only the essential parts of the installation that are corrupted; I'd say its a case of someone faking images by changing creation dates en-masses to make out they're real, and doctoring the build number so it looks real.

Or just very bad luck? :o )

ambush · Jun 29, 2002, 08:17 AM

WTF* are you guys doing on carracho "illegal" servers anyways?
Searching for warez... mmm please buy your software, thanks.

*What the fick

Justin W. Williams · Jun 29, 2002, 08:37 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ambush:
WTF* are you guys doing on carracho "illegal" servers anyways?
Searching for warez... mmm please buy your software, thanks.

*What the fick<hr /></blockquote>Thanks for the lecture, mom.

Angus_D · Jun 29, 2002, 09:15 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ambush:
WTF* are you guys doing on carracho "illegal" servers anyways?
Searching for warez... mmm please buy your software, thanks.<hr /></blockquote>I am not condoning piracy, but point me to where you can buy unreleased pre-release versions of Mac OS X?

dr. zoidberg · Jun 29, 2002, 09:16 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ambush:
WTF* are you guys doing on carracho "illegal" servers anyways?
Searching for warez... mmm please buy your software, thanks.

*What the fick<hr /></blockquote>btw: ambush, thanks for uploading the Logic 5 Platinum disk image + [k] to my hotline server... pls check your email for log/pass... as requested you have now full access to my n4sty-pr0n-directory. enjoy!

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

sorry, couldn�t resist.

ambush · Jun 29, 2002, 09:23 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> btw: ambush, thanks for uploading the Logic 5 Platinum disk image + [k] to my hotline server... pls check your email for log/pass... as requested you have now full access to my n4sty-pr0n-directory. enjoy!

sorry, couldn�t resist.

<hr /></blockquote>**** off morron warezer.

Spheric Harlot · Jun 29, 2002, 09:29 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ambush:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr /> btw: ambush, thanks for uploading the Logic 5 Platinum disk image + [k] to my hotline server... pls check your email for log/pass... as requested you have now full access to my n4sty-pr0n-directory. enjoy!

sorry, couldn�t resist.

<hr /></blockquote>**** off morron warezer.<hr /></blockquote>And just who do you think *you* are?
If you are *that* easily offended, you obviously deserve to be.

Can the holier-than-thou attitude.

Hash · Jun 29, 2002, 09:36 AM

Interesting thought..I read at register that recording companies have resorted to tactic of releasing fake mp3 of hits on file sharing servers, in fact flooding them.. who would doctor essentials packages for OS and release them ..just a thought..hmhmhmh.. its quite widespread tactic by the way..but i dont see why anyone would win by releasing doctored os versions.,no one really needs em

you should be glad that you just cannot install em..if you installed and that thing would wipe out all hard drives..thatll be a nightmare and no one can be blamed

ambush · Jun 29, 2002, 09:38 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />
I am not condoning piracy, but point me to where you can buy unreleased pre-release versions of Mac OS X?
<hr /></blockquote>Ask your parents <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ( If you're under 18 i think.. ) to buy a select or ++ ADC membership and you'll be able to download MacOS X Beta Seeds from their servers.

<a href="http://developer.apple.com/membership/pdf/adcprograms.pdf" target="_blank">http://developer.apple.com/membership/pdf/adcprograms.pdf</a>

This is a PDF that contains prices and privileges for each membership type.
Of course there's a price to it. . .

Zytryx · Jun 29, 2002, 09:46 AM

I'll start paying for software when companies price it correctly and quit filling there pockets.

Hash · Jun 29, 2002, 09:50 AM

thats the problem..except Office and music software, all software i know is reasonably priced unlike music CDs which I guess have really monopoly pricing

kman42 · Jun 29, 2002, 10:04 AM

Interesting about the music companies flooding the P2P networks with mucked up songs.

I wonder if that's legal. While it is rarely done, there is legitimate downloading of music from those networks. Intentionally wasting people's time could be construed as fraud. Although no money has changed hands... I'm not a lawyer, but it's an intesting thought.

More practically, this is just another tactic by the recording industry (along with 'fair-use'-defiled CDs and their general attitude towards internet distribution) that will really turn people off and eventually cause the complete breakdown of the way they do business. If only they would embrace the internet as a legitimate distribution system with reasonable pricing. Oh wait, that would mean that they would have to sign decent artists that could produce more than one hit per CD (thus making you pay $15/song)! Just another reason that I stopped listening to mainstream music a long time ago.

kman

Peabo · Jun 29, 2002, 10:20 AM

Still, I salvaged the extras.rsrc thingy from 6C75 and found that they have a new progress widget as opposed to the old 'rotating arrow'

<img src="http://www.mmls14550.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/widget.jpg" alt=" - " />

Mark N · Jun 29, 2002, 10:24 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Zytryx:
I'll start paying for software when companies price it correctly and quit filling there pockets.<hr /></blockquote>If everyone that said that bought the software, it would be more reasonably priced. I'll agree with Hash though. It is pretty reasonable. If I buy Photoshop for $600, then I'll make that back in just a couple of projects. The next time I upgrade, it's only $150, so I make that back even sooner. Still, it's similar to how I have to pay higher insurance, to cover those who don't have any.

Kaner · Jun 29, 2002, 10:24 AM

can you post that extras file? or can you email it to me at [email protected]? please

Hash · Jun 29, 2002, 10:25 AM

Jaguar is out just in 1-2 months. I think i can wait. BTW, i did not find Jaguar to be as revolutionary as compared to 10.0-10.1.

Kaner · Jun 29, 2002, 10:41 AM

Thanks so much 81, Thanks alot! Very appriciated.

[ 06-29-2002, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: Kaner ]

Angus_D · Jun 29, 2002, 10:50 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ambush:
Ask your parents <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ( If you're under 18 i think.. ) to buy a select or ++ ADC membership and you'll be able to download MacOS X Beta Seeds from their servers.<hr /></blockquote>So now you're encouraging breaking the law? I'm pretty sure that would be in violation of my parent's NDA.

Not to mention ADC Select & Premier members have only had access to one version of Jaguar, the Developer Preview that was seeded at WWDC, not later versions. I'm personally not that bothered about getting Jaguar (I don't have an obsessive desire to get the latest buzzword-compliant betas which half-implement technologies with silly-sounding names and are filled with bugs

), which probably explains why I don't have it.

SYN · Jun 29, 2002, 10:58 AM

could you post a screenshot of the new progress bar? It's one of the few things I preferred in 9... Please?

Peabo · Jun 29, 2002, 11:55 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by SYN:
could you post a screenshot of the new progress bar? It's one of the few things I preferred in 9... Please?

<hr /></blockquote>it's not the progress bar that I was referring to, it's the little spinning arrow in the corner of a window while it's loading the contents and so forth.

Guy Incognito · Jun 29, 2002, 12:13 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Hash:
Jaguar is out just in 1-2 months. I think i can wait. BTW, i did not find Jaguar to be as revolutionary as compared to 10.0-10.1.<hr /></blockquote>The 10.0-10.1 jump wasn't revolutionary. I don't know what kind of 'hash' made you hallucinate that.

dr. zoidberg · Jun 29, 2002, 12:32 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ambush:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr /> btw: ambush, thanks for uploading the Logic 5 Platinum disk image + [k] to my hotline server... pls check your email for log/pass... as requested you have now full access to my n4sty-pr0n-directory. enjoy!

sorry, couldn�t resist.

<hr /></blockquote>**** off morron warezer.<hr /></blockquote>aaah, daisy flowers... thanks!!! how did you know that i love these!??

btw: i don�t feel like TURNing OFF already... still have some work to do in my licensed copy of photoshop...

Hash · Jun 29, 2002, 12:45 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> The 10.0-10.1 jump wasn't revolutionary. I don't know what kind of 'hash' made you hallucinate that. <hr /></blockquote>Well, if you dont understand what you re talking about, how about shutting up?

mitchell_pgh · Jun 29, 2002, 12:47 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Hash:
Jaguar is out just in 1-2 months. I think i can wait. BTW, i did not find Jaguar to be as revolutionary as compared to 10.0-10.1.<hr /></blockquote>Well, it isn't even out yet, sooo... I would hope that it isn't as big as the .0 to .1 release...

Guy Incognito · Jun 29, 2002, 12:53 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Hash:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr /> The 10.0-10.1 jump wasn't revolutionary. I don't know what kind of 'hash' made you hallucinate that. <hr /></blockquote>Well, if you dont understand what you re talking about, how about shutting up?<hr /></blockquote>Sorry, my mom told me to never talk to idiots...this is the end of the discussion. k thx bye.

Hash · Jun 29, 2002, 01:23 PM

Your mom shoud also teach you not to open your mouth just to drop in some stupid lines. When you keep silence, you dont look brain-dead.. so take care, shut up

Peabo · Jun 29, 2002, 01:39 PM

Damn now I'm getting loadsa emails about this little thing

[ 06-29-2002, 02:01 PM: Message edited by: z0ne81 ]

ratlater · Jun 29, 2002, 01:48 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by z0ne81:
Still, I salvaged the extras.rsrc thingy from 6C75 and found that they have a new progress widget as opposed to the old 'rotating arrow'

<img src="http://www.mmls14550.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/widget.jpg" alt=" - " /><hr /></blockquote>First, if that is the new rotating arrow widget, then it looks awesome, I like it a lot more than the arrows.

Second, jeebus people settle down a bit. This thread is like Ghostbusters 2 and it's filled with the slime that makes everyone ****ed off. Nothing like talk of new versions of OS X and piracy to get people riled up.

-matt

Mr Scruff · Jun 29, 2002, 02:42 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ratlater:
Second, jeebus people settle down a bit. This thread is like Ghostbusters 2 and it's filled with the slime that makes everyone ****ed off. Nothing like talk of new versions of OS X and piracy to get people riled up.

-matt<hr /></blockquote>I always find it strange when people complain on here about others downloading developer seeds of OS X off hotline. I mean, if nobody did that, there wouldn't be many reasons to come here anyway.

ratlater · Jun 29, 2002, 02:55 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Mr Scruff:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ratlater:
Second, jeebus people settle down a bit. This thread is like Ghostbusters 2 and it's filled with the slime that makes everyone ****ed off. Nothing like talk of new versions of OS X and piracy to get people riled up.

-matt<hr /></blockquote>I always find it strange when people complain on here about others downloading developer seeds of OS X off hotline. I mean, if nobody did that, there wouldn't be many reasons to come here anyway.<hr /></blockquote>Very true, and unless you're in the law enforcement industry why do you care? If it does really bother you, maybe you should go into the law enforcement industry so you can really do something about it.

I forgot to say this earlier, but to whoever thinks that if everyone bought software the price would come down is dead wrong. If Adobe sell Photoshop for $600 and everyone starts buying it they won't be dropping the price, that would make no sense at all. The price would fall if it were too high for demand, so if we all stopped buying Photoshop the price would fall. Besides, Adobe doesn't make money from people like us, they make money from businesses that buy multiple seat licenses.

-matt

Mr. Blur · Jun 29, 2002, 03:01 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ratlater:
[QUOTE]
I forgot to say this earlier, but to whoever thinks that if everyone bought software the price would come down is dead wrong. If Adobe sell Photoshop for $600 and everyone starts buying it they won't be dropping the price, that would make no sense at all. The price would fall if it were too high for demand, so if we all stopped buying Photoshop the price would fall. Besides, Adobe doesn't make money from people like us, they make money from businesses that buy multiple seat licenses.

-matt<hr /></blockquote>nope. maybe for the windows releases that theory might apply, but with the smaller market share for Macintosh I think you'd see Adobe just stop making any new versions - it would reach a point where it is just not worth their time and effort.

Millennium · Jun 29, 2002, 03:43 PM

If you want prerelease builds legitimately, then get the membership.

Otherwise, it's piracy. Must I start deleting these threads, rather than closing them? Will that get the point across?
<img src="http://forums.macnn.com/images/mod_threadclosed.gif" alt=" - " />