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Does the new MacPro connect to Apple's LED Cinema Display?
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AppleGirl1990
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Mar 3, 2009, 03:29 PM
 
The LED cinema display only supported the portable macbooks/macbook pro. Does it now support the new MacPro's too?

Does the MacPro have a mini display port?
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Mar 3, 2009, 03:57 PM
 
Yes.

There's one DVI port and one Mini Display Port on both Mac Pro graphics cards. The 4870 is also compatible with the Ealy 2008 Mac Pro meaning that these Mac Pros can be used with the 24" LED CD.
     
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Mar 3, 2009, 03:58 PM
 
Sure it does. You can customize your order from the Apple Store to include the 24" LED Display.

Graphics and displays

Double-wide, 16-lane PCI Express 2.0 graphics slot with one of the following graphics cards installed:
NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB of GDDR3 memory, PCI Express 2.0, one Mini DisplayPort, and one dual-link DVI port
ATI Radeon HD 4870 with 512MB of GDDR5 memory, PCI Express 2.0, one Mini DisplayPort, and one dual-link DVI port
     
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Mar 3, 2009, 04:12 PM
 
Sigh.

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Mar 3, 2009, 10:39 PM
 
My computer all of a sudden seems slow.
But it's good to hear i can upgrade my graphics card so i'm able to use the LED Cinema Display in the future.
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Mar 3, 2009, 10:40 PM
 
I'm buying a 4870 for my 08 Mac Pro, but they will still have to rip my 23" Cinema Display from my cold dead fingers.

In fact, I plan on buying a second.
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Mar 3, 2009, 10:54 PM
 
Where does it say that the 4870 works with older machines?
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Mar 3, 2009, 11:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by AppleGirl1990 View Post
Where does it say that the 4870 works with older machines?
Here:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB...mco=NDE4NDMxOA
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Mar 4, 2009, 08:15 AM
 
What if this new graphics card (4870) is too fast for the old MacPro's that we have. Is that possible? After all, the new MacPro's have a Nehalem processors to run/manage these powerful graphics cards. I wouldn't want anything to be jolty, choppy etc....
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AppleGirl, how is it possible your powerful Mac Pro seems slow?, which software do you run on it? -if you don't mind me asking-. Mine is the 2006 entry model with 8 GB RAM, NVIDIA 8800GT and it is still plenty fast no matter what and your setup runs circles around it. Or are we talking in a figurative sense?
     
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Mar 4, 2009, 11:08 AM
 
Originally Posted by AppleGirl1990 View Post
What if this new graphics card (4870) is too fast for the old MacPro's that we have. Is that possible? After all, the new MacPro's have a Nehalem processors to run/manage these powerful graphics cards. I wouldn't want anything to be jolty, choppy etc....
No. CPUs and GPUs aren't interconnected like that. The GPU is either compatible with the logic board and its firmware or it isn't - it doesn't have anything to do with CPU management. The point of a GPU is to take the graphical processing burden off of the CPU; if GPUs had to be actively managed by CPUs in order to work there would be little purpose in having them.

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Mar 4, 2009, 11:16 AM
 
Originally Posted by angelmb View Post
AppleGirl, how is it possible your powerful Mac Pro seems slow?, which software do you run on it? -if you don't mind me asking-.
iPhoto 09.
     
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Mar 4, 2009, 11:30 AM
 
Originally Posted by AppleGirl1990 View Post
What if this new graphics card (4870) is too fast for the old MacPro's that we have. Is that possible? After all, the new MacPro's have a Nehalem processors to run/manage these powerful graphics cards. I wouldn't want anything to be jolty, choppy etc....
It's not about lack of CPU power, it's the bus. The first Mac Pro didn't have PCIe 2.0. That's why the card won't run in it. The Early 2008 Mac Pro has the same 16-lane PCIe 2.0 slot the Nehalem Mac Pros have. That's what the 4870 needs. The card will do just fine in an Early 2008 Mac Pro.
     
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Mar 4, 2009, 04:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
iPhoto 09.
What?, is iPhoto '09 such a resource hog?, my library is a joke -small- but I find hard to assimilate iPhoto would stress a Mac Pro.
     
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Mar 4, 2009, 06:09 PM
 
I use many programs. iPhoto is just one of them. I found Faces to be slow, but since the update released yesterday, it seems to be snappy.

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Mar 4, 2009, 08:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by AppleGirl1990 View Post
My computer all of a sudden seems slow.
But it's good to hear i can upgrade my graphics card so i'm able to use the LED Cinema Display in the future.
The difference between your mac and the new ones won't be more than maybe 30% faster assuming what apple is telling us. We should know shortly as the new machines get into the hands of consumers and the tests begin to tell the tale. I'll wait another year before considering upgrading my 2.8 octo. Remember snow leopard is supposed to optimized multicore macs too but won't know for sure until thats released. You still have a smokin hot mac. Enjoy it!
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Mar 5, 2009, 12:12 AM
 
I think likely your limiting factor in iPhoto is going to be the speed of your hard drive, I really doubt you're maxing out your CPU...
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Mar 6, 2009, 07:20 AM
 
If i upgrade to the 4870, do i still have a slot for my 8800GT or must i replace that?
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Mar 6, 2009, 09:50 AM
 
Originally Posted by AppleGirl1990 View Post
If i upgrade to the 4870, do i still have a slot for my 8800GT or must i replace that?
You have a second 16-lane PCIe 2.0 slot (slot no. 2) for the 8800. But it's not double-wide so the 8800 will cover slot no. 3 too.
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Mar 12, 2009, 12:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by Simon View Post
You have a second 16-lane PCIe 2.0 slot (slot no. 2) for the 8800. But it's not double-wide so the 8800 will cover slot no. 3 too.
The 8800 GT is a single slot card. However, the problem for using the 8800 and 4870 appears to be power connectors. The Mac Pro 08 mainboard has 2 6 pin power connectors for video cards. The 8800 GT takes 1, and the 4870 takes two. So an adaptor is going to be needed to grab power from the optical bay power plug.
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Originally Posted by Drakino View Post
The 8800 GT is a single slot card.
You're right. Mixed it up with the X1900.
     
   
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