[simonjames]

Day 3 - the top 5 in the medal talley

1st China 5G 2S 1B
2nd Australia 4G 1S 3B
3rd Japan 4G 1S 0B
=4th Turkey 2G 0S 1B
=4th Ukraine 2G 0S 1B

Australia is going well for a country of 19million

[soul searching]

As of right now, the US is in 7th place with one gold and a whole lot of silver

Direct link to the medals page.

[Sealobo]

Originally posted by soul searching:
As of right now, the US is in 7th place with one gold and a whole lot of silver

ESPN is ranking the US in the 3rd place. They rank by the total # of medals. That's so stupid.

[Lateralus]

Go Mongolia...

[moonmonkey]

Originally posted by simonjames:
Australia is going well for a country of 19million

Nothing else to do there.

[Kenneth]

sweet! The Chinese grabbed 6 gold already.

1...China.......6G...3S...1B...10 Total
2...Australia...5G...1S...3B...9 Total
3...Japan.......4G...1S...0B...5 Total

[dcolton]

Originally posted by Sealobo:
ESPN is ranking the US in the 3rd place. They rank by the total # of medals. That's so stupid.

Thats the way its been done as long as I can remember:

3 pts for Gold
2 pts for silver
1 pt for bronze

[Sealobo]

no no... China is now 7-3-1 (total 11) according to www.olympics.com!

Go China~

[Sealobo]

Where teh hell is Canada? Hehehe...

http://www.athens2004.com/en/OlympicMedals/medals

[Sealobo]

Originally posted by Sealobo:
no no... China is now 10-4-1 (total 15) according to www.olympics.com!

[mitchell_pgh]

China
Australia
Japan
United States
France
Italy
Turkey
Ukraine

The USA is 3rd by gold and tied for second by metals.

[TheBadgerHunter]

Hey, canada just got a bronze in synchro diving!

[Kenneth]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Hey, canada just got a bronze in synchro diving!

what a relief!

[simonjames]

The USA has reached the number of the beast

6 gold 6 silver 6 bronze



drug free but they've sold their souls!

[spatterson]

Originally posted by simonjames:
The USA has reached the number of the beast

6 gold 6 silver 6 bronze



drug free but they've sold their souls!

OMG! USA is finally picking up, but china is at 10gm... GEEZ, imagine whats to come in 2008!!! Come on USA!!!

[djohnson]

Just wait until the Gymnastics Individual comes out. Japan will go up as will the US. Those guys really know how to bust a move!

[djohnson]

Now is the US leading?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/oly...l.html?cnn=yes

[PacHead]

Originally posted by djohnson:
Now is the US leading?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/oly...l.html?cnn=yes

USA is kicking ass. #1.

[soul searching]

Originally posted by PacHead:
USA is kicking ass. #1.

They're still behind one in the gold count.

[PacHead]

Originally posted by soul searching:
They're still behind one in the gold count.

Not for long probably.

[djohnson]

Originally posted by soul searching:
They're still behind one in the gold count.

So they have to be ahead in every category yet other countries only need to be ahead in 1?

[soul searching]

Originally posted by djohnson:
So they have to be ahead in every category yet other countries only need to be ahead in 1?

I'm just going by the gold count, other people/sites are looking at the total number of medals.

Originally posted by PacHead:
Not for long probably.

I'm guessing that by the end of the day they'll be in first.

[badidea]

Guess the year of those summer olympics...

Country : G - S - B - Total

1. Gro�britannien 55 46 35 136
2. USA 23 12 12 47
3. Schweden 7 5 10 22
4. Frankreich 5 5 9 19
5. Ungarn 3 4 1 8
6. Kanada 3 3 7 13
7. Deutschland 2 4 3 9
8. Norwegen 2 3 3 8
9. Italien 2 2 0 4
10. Belgien 1 4 2 7
11. Australia/New Zealand 1 2 2 5
12. Finnland 1 1 3 5
13. S�dafrika 1 1 0 2
14. Griechenland 0 3 0 3
15. D�nemark 0 2 3 5
16. Russland 0 2 0 2
17. Bohemia 0 0 2 2
18. Niederlande 0 0 1 1
19. �sterreich 0 0 1

-----------------------

1. USA 75 79 79 233
2. Deutschland 4 4 4 12
3. Kanada 3 1 1 5
4. Kuba 3 0 0 3
5. Ungarn 2 1 1 4
6. �sterreich 1 1 1 3
7. Gro�britannien 1 1 0 2
8. Schweiz 1 0 1 2
9. Griechenland 1 0 1 2
10. Kuba/US 1 0 0 1
11. Frankreich 0 1 0 1

[d.fine]

2 Bronze go go BE

[demograph68]

USA just got gold in men's gymnastics. USA! USA!

[voodoo]

I think you should only count the gold - it is the only medal that matters. There is only 1 winner.

[d.fine]

Originally posted by voodoo:
I think you should only count the gold - it is the only medal that matters. There is only 1 winner.

Thats not the spirit of the Olympics ... being there and participating is more important !

[BE]go go BE get some medals ![/BE]

[macroy]

Originally posted by badidea:
Guess the year of those summer olympics...

Country : G - S - B - Total

1. Gro�britannien 55 46 35 136
2. USA 23 12 12 47
3. Schweden 7 5 10 22
4. Frankreich 5 5 9 19
5. Ungarn 3 4 1 8
6. Kanada 3 3 7 13
7. Deutschland 2 4 3 9
8. Norwegen 2 3 3 8
9. Italien 2 2 0 4
10. Belgien 1 4 2 7
11. Australia/New Zealand 1 2 2 5
12. Finnland 1 1 3 5
13. S�dafrika 1 1 0 2
14. Griechenland 0 3 0 3
15. D�nemark 0 2 3 5
16. Russland 0 2 0 2
17. Bohemia 0 0 2 2
18. Niederlande 0 0 1 1
19. �sterreich 0 0 1

-----------------------

1. USA 75 79 79 233
2. Deutschland 4 4 4 12
3. Kanada 3 1 1 5
4. Kuba 3 0 0 3
5. Ungarn 2 1 1 4
6. �sterreich 1 1 1 3
7. Gro�britannien 1 1 0 2
8. Schweiz 1 0 1 2
9. Griechenland 1 0 1 2
10. Kuba/US 1 0 0 1
11. Frankreich 0 1 0 1

Gonna take a stab at the second one being 1984 - don't see USSR in there.... who is Kuba/US?

[badidea]

Originally posted by macroy:
Gonna take a stab at the second one being 1984 - don't see USSR in there.... who is Kuba/US?

No, it's not 1984 and I also wondered what Kuba/US is...
(and sorry that all the names are in german but I was too lazy to change them all!)


edit:
I googled a little bit and it seems that there has once been an US/Cuba international team...
...and I also found another medals list that had slightly different numbers for that year but it was still hard to find any event where the USA didn't win gold, silver and bronze...even team events!!

more facts about this year:
682 athletes (about 600 US, 52 Canadians, 17 Germans, ... ,6 women, 2 black athletes)

[soul searching]

Originally posted by badidea:
Guess the year of those summer olympics...

Country : G - S - B - Total

1. Gro�britannien 55 46 35 136
2. USA 23 12 12 47
....

1908: London, England. My source says: GB 56-51-35.

Originally posted by badidea:

1. USA 75 79 79 233
2. Deutschland 4 4 4 12
....

1904: St. Louis, Missouri. My source says: USA 78-83-77.

My source.

[badidea]

Originally posted by soul searching:
1908: London, England. My source says: GB 56-51-35.
1904: St. Louis, Missouri. My source says: USA 78-83-77.

My source.

we have a winner!
(and yeah, different sources different numbers...the worst differences are in alltime totals if you compare those with various sources... )

[boardsurfer]

Originally posted by demograph68:
USA just got gold in men's gymnastics. USA! USA!

hold up. Paul Hamm won the GOLD??! After that horrible vault I went to bed. He won GOLD?!?! How the.. what... did the other guys just completely choke? somebody please 'splain.

And why is it so freakin hard to find a story on this? Dang the Olympic websites suck nuts.

[soul searching]

Originally posted by boardsurfer:
hold up. Paul Hamm won the GOLD??! After that horrible vault I went to bed. He won GOLD?!?! How the.. what... did the other guys just completely choke? somebody please 'splain.

And why is it so freakin hard to find a story on this? Dang the Olympic websites suck nuts.

LA Times has this story (pasted here in case you're not registered with them):

ATHENS 2004
After Crash Landing, American Gymnast Soars to Historic Gold

By Diane Pucin, Times Staff Writer


ATHENS � One turn of the ankle, a twitch of a toe, one baby step forward, one rock of the heel backward � any of these might have prevented gymnast Paul Hamm from making history Wednesday night at Olympic Indoor Hall.

Instead, Hamm, a 21-year-old from Waukesha, Wis., overcame a dramatic fall on his vault � almost landing in a judge's lap � to become the first American man to win a gold medal in the individual all-around competition.

His gold medal was one of four claimed Wednesday by the United States and one of nine American medals overall, the country's highest single-day total here.

It wasn't until Hamm's final score was flashed � 9.837 out of a possible 10 on his best event, the high bar � and his coach, Miles Avery, yelled, "You're the Olympic champion," that he realized he had won.

In the closest Olympic all-around competition since 1924, Hamm scored 57.823 points on his six routines, just 0.012 better than Kim Dae Eun of South Korea, who finished with 57.811. Kim's teammate Yang Tae Young took the bronze with 57.774.

The men's all-around, one of the Olympics' most glamorous events, is a frantic race by 24 competitors to turn double somersaults or complete circus moves high in the air on six different apparatuses. With chalk dust flying and scores changing by the second, Hamm had grabbed the lead halfway through the competition.

But it took him only about 10 seconds to lose it on his fourth event when he missed the landing on his vault, tumbled into the judging table, scored a 9.137 and dropped from first place to 12th.

"I've never missed this vault in competition," Hamm said. "It's one of my favorites."

Hamm and Yang Wei of China, who had finished second to Hamm at last year's world championships in Anaheim, had been tied for first after one event. Yang led after two events but Hamm took back the lead after the third rotation � and his weakest apparatus � the rings.

Next for Hamm came the vault and a move called a Kasamatsu with 1� twists � requiring a total of nearly three full airborne twists � and a blind landing.

"Really, in the air I thought I was OK," Hamm said. But he landed short and couldn't stop himself from tumbling out of bounds.

As he walked toward Avery, Hamm fought tears. "Honestly, I thought the gold medal was gone," Hamm said. "After an error like that, I just wanted to fight for any medal."

Those close to him agreed.

"I thought it was over," said his twin brother, Morgan, who is a member of the U.S. team that won the silver medal Monday.

"I didn't think he had a chance, certainly not to get first," added their mother, Cecily Hamm. "But I'm a pessimist at heart."

Even Avery, Hamm's coach, said, "I thought it was over."

But then came more of the unexpected: Hamm's opponents began dropping off equipment, stepping out of landings and wobbling on handstands, while he approached perfection.

Hamm landed his dismount from the parallel bars without even a bend in his knees, earning a score from the judges of 9.837, while Yang lost his grip on a one-handed swing on the high bar and fell to the ground. He received only 8.987.

Yang and Romanians Ioan Suciu and Marian Dragulescu, who were ahead of Hamm and competing in his group, all scored substantially lower than Hamm on the parallel bars. At the same time, Kim was scoring a respectable 9.725 on the uneven bars but Hamm had still gained on him.

By the time everyone was marching in straight lines to their final apparatus, Hamm had pulled up to fourth from 12th.

Hamm was scheduled to be the last competitor on his last apparatus, the high bar.

He is noted for a breathtaking move in which he flings himself high in the air, releases his hands from the bar, then catches it again three times in a row. During Monday's team competition, Hamm almost lost his grip on the second release, never completed the third and scored only 9.462.

After Kim ended a tentative floor routine and was awarded a 9.650; Yang finished a cautious high bar routine that earned only a 9.475; and fellow American Brett McClure exited his worst event, the rings, with a score of 9.162, Hamm had a thought.

"I think I knew I had given myself a small chance at the gold," he said, "but honestly I still thought I could only get the bronze."

Hamm needed a score of 9.825 to tie Kim. The crowd was nearly silent as Hamm reached those release moves � one, two, three � each time grasping his hands firmly on the bar so he could swing and let go again.

Then came the dismount. He twisted high toward the lights, toes pointed perfectly, arms stiff at his side � and when he landed lightly without even a muscle rippling, the crowd exhaled and Hamm pumped his fists.

"I thought I got the bronze," Hamm said.

In fact, the gold was his.

"It was remarkable," said Bart Conner, a member of the 1984 U.S. Olympic team that won the gold medal. "Think of it. He won by 12/1000 of a point. If one toe had moved on either of those last two landings, he would have had a bronze."

Tim Daggett, another member of that 1984 team, went further. "I know I get so caught up in my sport," he said, "but I think it is the most remarkable comeback I've ever seen in any sport."

Not everyone agreed. There were boos from fans who had waved South Korean flags, and the Romanian entrants suggested Hamm was scored too generously on the high bar.

"I am a little sad and bitter," said Suciu, who finished fourth. "I felt I had a medal in my hand and lost it. The only thing I can say is that the USA got something more than it deserved."

Yang admitted he deserved his low score. "I thought I was getting the gold," he said, "and I was rather complacent. I made a mistake."

Kim, however, confessed to feeling "a little disappointed and angry in a way."

Hamm would not let the comments diminish his joy. He and his brother had begun gymnastics when they were toddlers. Their father, Sandy, had built makeshift pommel horses and constructed homemade high bars in the garage.

"I think I probably daydreamed about winning the Olympics thousands of times," Hamm said, "but I did not ever picture myself making a mistake. I would have loved it to be flawless, but this shows how strong my character is. I felt like I overcame something."

Sounds like the other dudes choked...and little luck.

[boardsurfer]

thank you. Quite a performance.

oh, and Amanda Beard is hot.

[nredman]

Originally posted by boardsurfer:
thank you. Quite a performance.

oh, and Amanda Beard is hot.

i have a thing for Logan Tom...yummy

[TheBadgerHunter]

Yeah I saw that. I really don't think he deserved gold.. his performance on the high-bar was nothing compared to the korean's.

[soul searching]

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Yeah I saw that. I really don't think he deserved gold.. his performance on the high-bar was nothing compared to the korean's.

Apparently, there was a scoring error. Had the event been scored properly, he would have not gotten the gold. Despite the mistake, he'll get to keep his gold medal, but the Korean dude will get one too.

Hamm keeps gold despite scoring error

Athens, Greece, Aug. 21 (UPI) -- International gymnastics officials admitted Saturday there had been a scoring error in the men's all-around event, but they left the results unchanged.

American Paul Hamm, who staged an improbable rally to win the event last Wednesday, will thus get to keep his gold medal even though he would have finished second if the competiton had been scored properly.

Linkage

[mitchell_pgh]

USA USA USA...

http://www.athens2004.com/en/OlympicMedals/medals

[BoomStick]

WOW.

The USA is cleaning up!

Hey Canadia, what gives?

heh

[voodoo]

Originally posted by BoomStick:
WOW.

The USA is cleaning up!

Hey Canadia, what gives?

heh

Do you know what Canada means, originally?

[Eriamjh]

That error is a bummer. You'd think by now, with camera replays, slow motion high speed cameras, etc. that all scores would be reviewed before being awarded.

I guess it's like football. Even if the ref makes a bad call, it's not reversed after the fact.

D'oh.

[spacefreak]

So, is the final medal count complete?

[thePurpleGiant]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
So, is the final medal count complete?

Yep.




Don't ask me what it is though.

[nredman]

i know the USA is #1 in golds and total.

[thePurpleGiant]

OK, Got it:

Code:
                        Gold    Silver  Bronze  Total
1.	United States	35	39	29	103
2.	China	        32	17	14	63
3.	Russia	        27	27	38	92
4.	Australia	17	16	16	49
5.	Japan	        16	9	12	37
6.	Germany	        14	16	18	48
7.	France	        11	9	13	33
8.	Italy	        10	11	11	32
9.	South Korea	9	12	9	30
10.	Great Britain	9	9	12	30

Go here for the complete list.

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally posted by thePurpleGiant:
OK, Got it:

Code:
                        Gold    Silver  Bronze  Total
1.	United States	35	39	29	103
2.	China	        32	17	14	63
3.	Russia	        27	27	38	92
4.	Australia	17	16	16	49
5.	Japan	        16	9	12	37
6.	Germany	        14	16	18	48
7.	France	        11	9	13	33
8.	Italy	        10	11	11	32
9.	South Korea	9	12	9	30
10.	Great Britain	9	9	12	30

Go here for the complete list.

So the USA had almost twice as many "first losers" as any other country

I'm still a little amazed Russia did so well.

[theolein]

Originally posted by thePurpleGiant:
OK, Got it:

Code:
                        Gold    Silver  Bronze  Total
1.	United States	35	39	29	103
2.	China	        32	17	14	63
3.	Russia	        27	27	38	92
4.	Australia	        17	16	16	49
5.	Japan	        16	9	12	37
6.	Germany	        14	16	18	48
7.	France	        11	9	13	33
8.	Italy	                10	11	11	32
9.	South Korea	9	12	9	30
10.	Great Britain	9	9	12	30

Go here for the complete list.

Go Oz! Ozland was simply fantastic at these games. In fact the only thing that disappointed me from the Ozzies was the way their press treated that woman rower who couldn't carry on. That was really mean. I think that the Ozzies expect all their players to play like Cook did in Beach Volleyball, where she carried on playing even though her shoulder had a torn ligament and she could only serve underhanded. Tough bunch they are.

I was also really amazed to see South Africans win the 4 x 100 meter freestyle. Great going guys!

And the Chinese, what can one say about them? At each games they increase their medal tally and even start winning some gold in track and swimming. They came very close to winning this year (based on Gold medal count) and I'm pretty sure that by 2008 in Beijing they'll be the winner.

I'm also pretty sure that the bad judging at these games will lead to a shake up in a number of disciplines. There were two events (gymnastics men and women) where US athletes profited due to judging errors and one where the Chinese lost out due to a judging error. That would have meant that China and the US would have tied for Gold. Given that the next games will be in China, I doubt that such errors will happen again, or, what is also possible, China will use influence to change judging outcomes. When it comes to national prestige, I don't think any nation is above cheating.

[itai195]

Originally posted by theolein:
I'm also pretty sure that the bad judging at these games will lead to a shake up in a number of disciplines. There were two events (gymnastics men and women) where US athletes profited due to judging errors and one where the Chinese lost out due to a judging error. That would have meant that China and the US would have tied for Gold. Given that the next games will be in China, I doubt that such errors will happen again, or, what is also possible, China will use influence to change judging outcomes. When it comes to national prestige, I don't think any nation is above cheating.

I believe there was also a men's diving event where the Chinese judge was dismissed for bias before the finals, but the Chinese ended up winning anyway. Their divers were incredible (as usual).

[Sealobo]

I heard that the number of chinese olympians will double by 2008.

What's the current number? What about the huge fleet from the US?