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Intel Macs = byebye Classic?
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According to Apple, Rosetta does not run the following:
Applications built for Mac OS 8 or 9
Code written specifically for AltiVec
Code that inserts preferences in the System Preferences pane
Applications that require a G4 or G5 processor
Applications that depend on one or more kernel extensions
Kernel extensions
Bundled Java applications or Java applications with JNI libraries that can't be translated."
Does this mean Mactel computers won't have Classic mode?
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"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." TJ
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
Confirmed.
Where?
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Originally Posted by z0ne81
According to Apple, Rosetta does not run the following:
Applications built for Mac OS 8 or 9...
Good riddance...was about time.
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Originally Posted by Randman
Where?
If Rosetta cannot translate OS 9 applications, then there's no layer present to translate Classic. Not quite Confirmed, but close enough I believe.
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
Not quite Confirmed, but close enough I believe.
That's more like it. Personally, I think Classic will be dropped from Intel Macs as well but I'm not going to say CONFIRMED without backing it up.
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Can't wait to flush that turd.
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Originally Posted by Randman
That's more like it. Personally, I think Classic will be dropped from Intel Macs as well but I'm not going to say CONFIRMED without backing it up.
Well, for all intents and purposes it is Confirmed. And in the grand tradition of MacNN I thought I'd take some liberty with the term.
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
Well, for all intents and purposes it is Confirmed.
Actually, not. Until it is confirmed by Apple, it's not confirmed.
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When 10.5 is released why would you still be emulating a 5 generation old OS, I believe that is when classic will be dropped from all Macs including Mactel and PPCs. Buy an emulator if you want OS9 I'm sure someone will write it.
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Originally Posted by MacManMikeOSX
When 10.5 is released why would you still be emulating a 5 generation old OS, I believe that is when classic will be dropped from all Macs including Mactel and PPCs. Buy an emulator if you want OS9 I'm sure someone will write it.
7 generations:
0 - 10.5
1 - 10.4
2 - 10.3
3 - 10.3
4 - 10.2
5 - 10.1
6 - 10.0
6.5 - OS X Server 1.1
6.9 - OS X Server 1.0
7 - 9.2.2
The bottom line is if you need to run OS 9 applications, buy a PPC Mac. If PPC Macs aren't available anymore, you really need to look into a new solution, as you are relying on a ten year old technology at this point: you obviously thought ahead and bought a PPC before they were no longer available, but now that machine is so old you have to upgrade it too. We're looking at 2010+ before this is even remotely a problem. Clearly, the OS 9 program is dead and unsupported if it hasn't been upgraded by the year 2010. You should look into open source X11 programs, OS X programs, or Windows programs--if they still exist at this point.
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ACSA 10.4/10.3, ACTC 10.3, ACHDS 10.3
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Originally Posted by z0ne81
According to Apple, Rosetta does not run the following:
Applications built for Mac OS 8 or 9
...
Applications that require a G4 or G5 processor
...
Does this mean Mactel computers won't have Classic mode?
You answered your own question. If you verified that Rosetta does not run OS 8 or 9 applications, then you verified that Rosetta doesn't run classic. After all, what's the point of classic if you can't run applications in it?
In addition, Rosetta is effectively emulating a G3 processor. There are very few programs that flat out won't run on a G3. Most of these are games. You wouldn't want to emulate Halo anyway.
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ACSA 10.4/10.3, ACTC 10.3, ACHDS 10.3
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