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slpdLoad · Jul 9, 2008, 08:18 AM

I bought an original iPhone that had been refurbished after I saw the announcement for the 3G phone last month. I'm even eligible for a free trade-in, but without 3G service where I live, there's no reason to be paying $10-$15 more per month for the same thing. I also rather like the metal casing of the current iPhone.

I will however be upgrading to 2.0 and getting MobileMe as soon as they are available though. Like others have said, it's as good as getting a new phone.

starman · 08:46 AM

I voted no. I'm not THAT impressed with the specs, and I'm worried about battery life.

EDIT: Also, I have a Nokia N95 which so far does a few things the iPhone 2 doesn't: better camera, video recording, Flash. If Apple at LEAST put Flash in their damn iPhone I'd be all over it, but they don't. I'm sure there will be a 3rd party solution for it, but for me this isn't worth the money.

osiris · Jul 9, 2008, 09:50 AM

I change my vote to NO.
Mossberg's battery life of 4:27 hours is something that concerns me.

ajprice · Jul 9, 2008, 10:26 AM

In that 4:27 hours he left wifi on and disconnected, which would still eat battery time compared to leaving it off.

osiris · Jul 9, 2008, 11:04 AM

So if I have an iPhone and want the stated amount of talk time, I need to turn off features like wifi, 3g, gps...

ajprice · Jul 9, 2008, 11:15 AM

No, just turn things on as you use them, and battery life will be better. I have bluetooth on my W850i, I only turn it on when I need it because it eats battery life. This thing has bluetooth, edge, wifi, gps and 3g, thats a lot of wireless power to waste away in your pocket.

osiris · Jul 9, 2008, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by ajprice

No, just turn things on as you use them, and battery life will be better. I have bluetooth on my W850i, I only turn it on when I need it because it eats battery life. This thing has bluetooth, edge, wifi, gps and 3g, thats a lot of wireless power to waste away in your pocket.

I got you there, I was being sarcastic.

ajprice · Jul 9, 2008, 11:29 AM

Ah well, I read the

as "What are you going on about you ****ing idiot.", so I thought I'd explain myself

.

osiris · Jul 9, 2008, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by ajprice

Ah well, I read the

as "What are you going on about you ****ing idiot.", so I thought I'd explain myself

.

Sorry mate.

Mrjinglesusa · Jul 9, 2008, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by osiris

I got you there, I was being sarcastic.

Originally Posted by ajprice

Ah well, I read the

as "What are you going on about you ****ing idiot.", so I thought I'd explain myself

.

Originally Posted by osiris

Sorry mate.

Get a room you two.

Been thinking it over and I'm still not going to get one. Like others have said, iPhone Software 2.0 + MobileMe will be like having a new phone anyway.

starman · Jul 9, 2008, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mrjinglesusa

Been thinking it over and I'm still not going to get one. Like others have said, iPhone Software 2.0 + MobileMe will be like having a new phone anyway.

This.

GPS I don't NEED.
3G isn't worth the extra $$$ since I'm used to Edge anyway. I don't like Edge, but for right now, I'm OK with it.

Had the iPhone had Flash, I'd be in line right now.

richwig83 · Jul 9, 2008, 02:06 PM

Think ill stick with the old one!

ort888 · Jul 12, 2008, 11:39 AM

AT&T is not budging on this subsidized pricing. I've called in twice and they keep telling me the same damn things.

I explain to them that I've been with them for 6 years, paid them over $6,000, been very modest in my phone upgrades, and have been told three separate times that I was eligible for the $199 by AT&T employees. It's even noted on my account. It's funny hearing a CSR read "Customer was promised that the $199 price is not subsidized and the customer is guaranteed an iPhone on July 11th for the $199 price. The $199 price is for everyone, not just new customers" and the say "I do apologize for the confusion sir, but you are upgrade eligible in July 2009. My response is, how do I know you aren't lying to me now? Since it seems that AT&T employees seem to be fine with telling customers whatever they want without consequence.

Ugh. I also told them that they had two possible scenarios....

1. I get the iPhone for $199, sign up for an expensive 2-year data plan and am a very happy customer.

2. They don't sell me a $199 iPhone, I continue with my current inexpensive plan, drop AT&T after a year, and anytime anyone talks about cell phone companies between now and the end of my life, I will go out of my way to speak ill about AT&T.

Sir, I do understand your frustration, but our system indicates that you are eligible for an upgrade in...

Is there anyone else I can talk to?

Sir, at this time, we are unable to escalate calls of this manner. Our policy is very strict on this and we can only go by the date set by our system. Again sir, I do apologize...

AAHHHH!

Zeeb · Jul 12, 2008, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by ort888

AT&T is not budging on this subsidized pricing. I've called in twice and they keep telling me the same damn things.

I explain to them that I've been with them for 6 years, paid them over $6,000, been very modest in my phone upgrades, and have been told three separate times that I was eligible for the $199 by AT&T employees. It's even noted on my account. It's funny hearing a CSR read "Customer was promised that the $199 price is not subsidized and the customer is guaranteed an iPhone on July 11th for the $199 price. The $199 price is for everyone, not just new customers" and the say "I do apologize for the confusion sir, but you are upgrade eligible in July 2009. My response is, how do I know you aren't lying to me now? Since it seems that AT&T employees seem to be fine with telling customers whatever they want without consequence.

Ugh. I also told them that they had two possible scenarios....

1. I get the iPhone for $199, sign up for an expensive 2-year data plan and am a very happy customer.

2. They don't sell me a $199 iPhone, I continue with my current inexpensive plan, drop AT&T after a year, and anytime anyone talks about cell phone companies between now and the end of my life, I will go out of my way to speak ill about AT&T.

Sir, I do understand your frustration, but our system indicates that you are eligible for an upgrade in...

Is there anyone else I can talk to?

Sir, at this time, we are unable to escalate calls of this manner. Our policy is very strict on this and we can only go by the date set by our system. Again sir, I do apologize...

AAHHHH!

I've had so many similar customer service situations that I can sympathize with you. Once it gets to a certain level of frustration, I think its best to walk away. Either pony up and pay full price for the upgrade or just use the iphone you have now until your contract expires--by the time it does AT&T may not have exclusive rights to the iphone anymore and you'll have more choices.

ort888 · Jul 12, 2008, 12:16 PM

I don't currently have an iPhone, That's the problem. If I did, I would be eligible.

ort888 · 12:51 PM

Here's what I don't understand. THe math just doesn't add up.

Previous iPhone owners are upgrade eligible because they supposedly paid full price for the iPhone. $399 was full price, and was unsubsidized.

So now, you pay $199 for a subsidized iPhone with 2-year contract, $399 for a unsubsidized iPhone with a 2-year contract, or $599 for a unsubsidized iPhone without a 2-year contract.

Don't those numbers indicate that original iPhone owners were paying some form of subsidized price? Why are they eligible and current customers are not?

The most annoying thing is that the phone I have now is this free cheapy piece of **** I got because my old one broke. I had to pay a $50 upgrade fee for it as well. I know, 100% that this thing did not cost AT&T $200. Especially after I paid them $50 to "upgrade".

EDIT OK, I just checked the online AT&T store and the difference in price between a full price phone and a subsidized one is $150. Right down the board... subsidizing takes $150 off the price.

SO WHY THE HELL IS AN UNSUBSIDIZED IPHONE $200 MORE?

What makes it even more annoying is that I paid $50 to upgrade to this "free" hunk of ****, so I got $100 subsidized over 2 years which I am now halfway through. So where the **** does this $200 difference come from? What stupid math is this? Why not allow us to pay off the difference on the old phone? Why not work with people?

Why do they have to such colossal douches about everything.

I am so annoyed.

BRussell · Jul 12, 2008, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by starman

Had the iPhone had Flash, I'd be in line right now.

Originally Posted by starman

If Apple at LEAST put Flash in their damn iPhone I'd be all over it, but they don't. I'm sure there will be a 3rd party solution for it, but for me this isn't worth the money.

Flash is the deal breaker for you? Hell, I don't use a browser unless Flash is blocked.

64stang06 · Jul 12, 2008, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by BRussell

Flash is the deal breaker for you? Hell, I don't use a browser unless Flash is blocked.

No flash is one of the reasons I LOVE the iPhone.