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Tiger Phone Home?
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Eriamjh
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May 2, 2005, 01:17 PM
 
From Macfixit.com
"dmnotifyd" apparently sending Apple user information Several users have reported that an application called "dnotifyd" is sending system information back to Apple.

Jim Czech writes:

"Since my upgrade last night to Tiger, I have noticed something going on in the background. This was never observed in the past, but thanks to Little Snitch I 'caught' this one.

"This particular app is attempting to contact 'configuration.apple.com' every few minutes. I don't have a packet sniffer, but am curious just exactly why Apple needs to 'check my configuration' every few minutes.

"After the upgrade, I started testing all my apps, one by one, to see if there were any compatibility issues making the move from 10.3.9 to Tiger. When I applied the Little Snitch update, I then noticed this "dmnotifyd" app was phoning home. I thought it was possibly related to running each app and then Apple was gathering stats for compatibility, etc.

"However, even with no applications running, 'dmnotifyd' is still contacting Apple.

"I have allowed several requests (since I have nothing to hide) thinking it would stop. It doesn't matter whether the request to send is allowed or denied, it runs non-stop."
Does anybody have any more information on this?

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Hm, I don't recall this coming up. But maybe, I missed it, because I did archieve install over 10.3, so Little Snitch got deactivated. I manually re-installed it, and never had anything like this coming up...

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May 2, 2005, 01:27 PM
 
Well I know in System Profile you can now send your information to Apple for troubleshooting purposes. Fortunately, I don't have that process in the background running so I can't say what it is.
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May 2, 2005, 01:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by Eriamjh
From Macfixit.com
Does anybody have any more information on this?
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DMNotification.framework/Versions/A/Resources/dmnotifyd handles .Mac Notifications (notify.mac.com).

Thus the name, dmnotifyd = dot Mac notify daemon

And it's not trying to send information TO configuration.apple.com; it's trying to get information FROM it for the .Mac Notification parameters for the client:

http://configuration.apple.com/confi...0.plist.signed

configuration.apple.com is a repository for this type of dynamic configuration information.
     
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May 2, 2005, 01:34 PM
 
Stop being so paranoid, pay for your copy.
     
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May 2, 2005, 01:39 PM
 
Insteresting, he prob has iDisk sync on and didn't think about that either.
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May 2, 2005, 02:17 PM
 
Originally Posted by piracy
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DMNotification.framework/Versions/A/Resources/dmnotifyd handles .Mac Notifications (notify.mac.com).

Thus the name, dmnotifyd = dot Mac notify daemon

And it's not trying to send information TO configuration.apple.com; it's trying to get information FROM it for the .Mac Notification parameters for the client:

http://configuration.apple.com/confi...0.plist.signed

configuration.apple.com is a repository for this type of dynamic configuration information.
Impressive detective work (assuming you found all this out yourself). . .

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May 2, 2005, 02:21 PM
 
Originally Posted by ashtoash
Stop being so paranoid, pay for your copy.
So one should assume that every person paranoid about Tiger phoning home with information never authorized by the user has pirated it? I doubt that most users (fewer know about Little Snitch to begin with) know what dmnotifyd does, as they could care less about the UNIX aspect of the OS. If this were Microsoft all of you anti-piracy fanboys would be in an uproar over privacy issues.
     
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May 2, 2005, 02:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by alphasubzero949
So one should assume that every person paranoid about Tiger phoning home with information never authorized by the user has pirated it? I doubt that most users (fewer know about Little Snitch to begin with) know what dmnotifyd does, as they could care less about the UNIX aspect of the OS. If this were Microsoft all of you anti-piracy fanboys would be in an uproar over privacy issues.
The thing is: Tiger isn't phoning home. Information is being received, not sent.

Another thing is: when people are worried about phone-home apps from companies they trust, it's usually because they pirated.
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May 2, 2005, 06:31 PM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac
Impressive detective work (assuming you found all this out yourself). . .
I don't think it's detective work... many of us suspect that a particular person who hangs out and answers questions in a no-nonsense fashion could possibly work for a certain computer company, though they'll never admit it.
     
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May 2, 2005, 06:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by Stradlater
Another thing is: when people are worried about phone-home apps from companies they trust, it's usually because they pirated.
Or maybe it's because they're worried that the company is heading in a direction where they'll no longer be trustworthy.
     
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May 2, 2005, 07:20 PM
 
Some people don't like their bandwidth or CPU processes being wasted doing things without permission. I don't have .Mac so why would I want my CPU to check the server?

No, I don't have Tiger and I wouldn't steal it. That's what MP3s are for.

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May 2, 2005, 07:45 PM
 
Originally Posted by nonhuman
Or maybe it's because they're worried that the company is heading in a direction where they'll no longer be trustworthy.


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May 2, 2005, 07:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by piracy
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DMNotification.framework/Versions/A/Resources/dmnotifyd handles .Mac Notifications (notify.mac.com).

Thus the name, dmnotifyd = dot Mac notify daemon

And it's not trying to send information TO configuration.apple.com; it's trying to get information FROM it for the .Mac Notification parameters for the client:

http://configuration.apple.com/confi...0.plist.signed

configuration.apple.com is a repository for this type of dynamic configuration information.
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I don't think paranoia is a reflection of theft. Some people are just paraniod (that's... TWO noids). I don't like the idea of my info just being transmitted randomly to anyone Apple or otherwise (and my copies legit, btw). True this is recieving, but still.

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It has got to do with idisk syncing services. If you allow the change, idisk then shows up on your desktop. I get a bit paranoid too after years of using Windows...
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Mar 17, 2006, 01:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by larrinski
It has got to do with idisk syncing services. If you allow the change, idisk then shows up on your desktop. I get a bit paranoid too after years of using Windows...
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