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Eriamjh · Jul 7, 2006, 07:51 AM

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6091132.html

...because they say the corn should be used for starving people, not fuel.

I knew they'd find a reason to be against it.

Doofy · Jul 7, 2006, 08:09 AM

The thread title is misleading. Should read "Oil Company Against Bio-Fuels Made From Food Crop"

Eric Holthusen, a fuels technology manager for the Asia-Pacific region, said the company's research unit, Shell Global Solutions, has developed alternative fuels from renewable resources that use wood chips and plant waste rather than food crops that are typically used to make the fuels.

TETENAL · Jul 7, 2006, 08:27 AM

Whether you have an area with forest you turn into bio-fuel or you have an area with food crops you turn into bio-fuel – neither feeds a starving child in Africa. For bio-fuel the most efficient (and sustainable) plant should be used.

Doofy · Jul 7, 2006, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

For bio-fuel the most efficient (and sustainable) plant should be used.

Which also happens to not be a main food source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algacul...sel_production

Yose · Jul 7, 2006, 10:06 AM

Oh.. yay.. an oil industry that cares about people.

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/oil/curse.html

Right.

Velocity211 · Jul 7, 2006, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Yose

Oh.. yay.. an oil industry that cares about people.

lol, exactly what I was thinking.

Sky Captain · Jul 7, 2006, 11:24 AM

Political opression and culture causes starving children in Aftica.

aberdeenwriter · Jul 7, 2006, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Yose

Oh.. yay.. an oil industry that cares about people.

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/oil/curse.html

Right.

I think your idea of an industry that "CARES" about people isn't really possible. What you CAN have is an industry that takes a greater interest in public opinion. But unfortunately, the warm and fuzzy feeling you might envision doesn't reflect the reality that we are addicted to oil.

Each of us is a walking talking oil consumption entity.

We eat it, we drink it. We wear it. We ride on it and in it. We watch it and listen to it. We work with it and play with it.

And the oil industry knows this. They have us over a barrel. LITERALLY.

What are we going to do? Stop using oil?

aberdeenwriter · Jul 7, 2006, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

Political opression and culture causes starving children in Aftica.

Africans having sex despite knowing that sex leads to pregnancy leads to starving children in Africa.

Gossamer · Jul 7, 2006, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by aberdeenwriter

Africans having sex despite knowing that sex leads to pregnancy leads to starving children in Africa.

AIDS too

aberdeenwriter · Jul 7, 2006, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

AIDS too

The U.S. government is the world leader in responding to the global pandemic of AIDS.

The U.S. government has made the fight against HIV/AIDS a top priority, not only for humanitarian reasons, but because the HIV/AIDS crisis threatens the prosperity, stability, and development of nations around the world. USAID has funded almost $6 billion since inception of its international HIV/AIDS program in 1986, more than any other public or private organization. USAID currently has HIV/AIDS programs in nearly 100 countries worldwid

http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/global_health/aids/

I think we should recruit a volunteer corps of Americans to go to Africa and physically prevent Africans from coupling. Just walk into their huts and pull them apart. Throw cold water on them. Then go to the next hut and do the same there.

That's the only way we can stop the starving children and prevent AIDS in Africa.

(For the clueless, I'm not serious.)

olePigeon · Jul 7, 2006, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by aberdeenwriter

http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/global_health/aids/

I think we should recruit a volunteer corps of Americans to go to Africa and physically prevent Africans from coupling. Just walk into their huts and pull them apart. Throw cold water on them. Then go to the next hut and do the same there.

On a serious note, what they need is Planned Parenting and condoms.

nonhuman · Jul 7, 2006, 05:21 PM

I think I saw something recently about someone finding that a certain kind of algae happens to be the best thing to make bio-diesel out of. Supposedly it was much better suited to it than other crops that have been used, and isn't a food crop. Of course recycling waste oil from fryers and what-not is obviously a very good way to go.

aberdeenwriter · Jul 7, 2006, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by nonhuman

I think I saw something recently about someone finding that a certain kind of algae happens to be the best thing to make bio-diesel out of. Supposedly it was much better suited to it than other crops that have been used, and isn't a food crop. Of course recycling waste oil from fryers and what-not is obviously a very good way to go.

Yes, it's outlined on one of this thread's fine links.

nonhuman · Jul 7, 2006, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by aberdeenwriter

Yes, it's outlined on one of this thread's fine links.

Ah ha! I had missed that one.

aberdeenwriter · Jul 7, 2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by nonhuman

Ah ha! I had missed that one.

No big deal. After all you're only human...uh, er, you know what I mean.

Sky Captain · Jul 7, 2006, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by aberdeenwriter

http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/global_health/aids/

I think we should recruit a volunteer corps of Americans to go to Africa and physically prevent Africans from coupling. Just walk into their huts and pull them apart. Throw cold water on them. Then go to the next hut and do the same there.

That's the only way we can stop the starving children and prevent AIDS in Africa.

(For the clueless, I'm not serious.)

Africa, the only continent where you can walk into any structure and find people ****in on the tables. At all hours in every position. Go into a hospital bathroom, two people going at it like rabid weasels. In the relief trucks on the base. It's like a rolling brothel.
You just can't make this stuff up.

I have yet to see this in any other part of the world.

And I read a report on butanol.
http://www.butanol.com/