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Cody Dawg · Oct 13, 2006, 11:32 AM

Those libs/Dems sure know how to do things don't they? Like manage money? Not only that, they're liars:

NEW YORK (AP) -- Air America Radio, a liberal talk and news radio network that features the comedian Al Franken, has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, a network official told The AP.

The network had denied rumors just a month ago that it would file for bankruptcy.

Just proves that no one wants to hear what they have to say.

Dakar · Oct 13, 2006, 11:33 AM

Apparently they couldn't keep it together until after the election.

Cody Dawg · Oct 13, 2006, 11:54 AM

Guess not.

I don't understand how filing bankruptcy will help them. No money is no money.

Now they're working for free apparently.

Kevin · Oct 13, 2006, 12:10 PM

Why aren't the big shot hollywood supporters offering donations??!

Seriously they could keep it afloat with just that.

placebo1969 · Oct 13, 2006, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Why aren't the big shot hollywood supporters offering donations??!

Seriously they could keep it afloat with just that.

Actually, I think the bankruptcy may work in their favor, garnering support was people sympathetic to Air America's causes.

itai195 · Oct 13, 2006, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Those libs/Dems sure know how to do things don't they? Like manage money?

I thought liberals were rich elitists?

black bear theory · Oct 13, 2006, 12:42 PM

how can liberals be so inept at running a business (air america) yet so adept (mainstream media) in the same market at the same time?

black bear theory · Oct 13, 2006, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Just proves that no one wants to hear what they have to say.

my problem with any media is that you have to wade through incessant commercial after commercial just to get to anything of substance, and by that time there is so little time left to actual report on the news. not that anything on talk radio can be considered news.

that's why i can't listen to rush, and why i couldn't listen to air america.

ink · Oct 13, 2006, 02:00 PM

You can only listen to repulican-bashing for so long before it becomes boring.

After that, it's back to NPR. Salt Lake has 3 NPR stations, and hasn't ever had an AA affiliate.

Conservatives, on the other hand, seem to get endless entertainment from hearing the same thing over and over and over and over and over.

EDIT: Although I still enjoy Glenn Beck when he's not on one of his insane WW3 rants. Moron trivia!

smacintush · Oct 13, 2006, 02:17 PM

Jeez Air America isn't a failure simply because it's run by liberals. It's a failure because it sucks. It happens.

Dork. · Oct 13, 2006, 02:27 PM

I knew what Air America's problem was the moment it started up: Liberals don't listen to the radio, they watch TV. Liberals only listen to the radio in their cars. Conservatives will listen to the radio all afternoon long if they guy talking into it agrees with their political views. What else do they have to do, watch Oprah?

Jon Stewart and Rush Limbaugh both understand this.

CRASH HARDDRIVE · Oct 13, 2006, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Dork.

I knew what Air America's problem was the moment it started up: Liberals don't listen to the radio, they watch TV. Conservatives only watch TV when something good is on. Liberals will watch TV all afternoon long if they guy talking on it agrees with their political views. What else do they have to do but watch Oprah?

Jon Stewart and Rush Limbaugh both understand this.

Interesting perspective on the matter.

Mark Larr · Oct 13, 2006, 03:53 PM

Maybe George Soros will buy them out.

He bought demoncratic party, why not a propaganda mouthpiece for the shrill rantings of the insane.

olePigeon · Oct 13, 2006, 04:15 PM

Does this also "prove" that the media isn't liberal? Or that conservatives eat up bullsh*t easier than liberals?

Sky Captain · Oct 13, 2006, 04:44 PM

No, what this proves is that no advertiser wants to be associated with shreaking moonbats.

Dakar · Oct 13, 2006, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

No, what this proves is that no advertiser wants to be associated with shreaking moonbats.

So you're saying if they got great rating no one would advertise with them? Puh-lease

Sky Captain · Oct 13, 2006, 04:56 PM

I don't know much about their ratings. I've never tuned them in.(maybe that's part of their problem. hmmm?)

They're failing because they have no sponsors.(apparently the big paying sponsors don't see Air America's audiance as profiitable)
I have no clue to their ratings.

Dakar · Oct 13, 2006, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

I've never tuned them in.(maybe that's part of their problem. hmmm?)

Oh, I don't think you're the only one.

I think they got sh!t ratings because they're so far left (and its radio).

I could be wrong, though.

Sky Captain · Oct 13, 2006, 05:01 PM

And this is the point I was making.
They were too over the top for mainstream advertisers.
If they wanted a private forum to shreak at the top of their lungs ot a diminutive audiance, then they need more private funding. From the ones who want to hear the shrill cry of the moonbat.

itai195 · Oct 13, 2006, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

And this is the point I was making.
They were too over the top for mainstream advertisers.

And you know that because.... oh wait, you never tuned them in you say?

I never tuned them in either, but then I don't presume to have an in depth knowledge of their financial position.

Dakar · Oct 13, 2006, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

And this is the point I was making.
They were too over the top for mainstream advertisers.

The reason I disagreed with that is because in this capitalistic system, the point is to get customers, correct? So why do they care what they listen to if they have the money to buy the product?

You make a good point though. Perhaps they took a wait-and-see attitude towards Air America.

Regardless, I think it was doomed to fail.

Sky Captain · Oct 13, 2006, 05:08 PM

I don't listen to Rush either. He's too over the top for me also.
Or Neil Boortz for that matter.
Well, apparently they have a marketable auduance.

Dakar · Oct 13, 2006, 05:10 PM

I can't listen to Rush either, but I've bared Boortz before.

itai195 · Oct 13, 2006, 05:12 PM

Do you know who sponsored Air America? Or what their financial obligations were? Or if they even had an audience? The only unmarketable audience in America is one that doesn't exist.

Sky Captain · Oct 13, 2006, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by itai195

And you know that because.... oh wait, you never tuned them in you say?

I never tuned them in either, but then I don't presume to have an in depth knowledge of their financial position.

I do now. Bankruptsy.

I don't listen to country music stations but yet they have a marketable audiance.
Apparently, Air America didn't.

analogika · Oct 13, 2006, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

And this is the point I was making.
They were too over the top for mainstream advertisers.
If they wanted a private forum to shreak at the top of their lungs ot a diminutive audiance, then they need more private funding. From the ones who want to hear the shrill cry of the moonbat.

No, it actually works exactly the other way round: FIRST you prove there's an AUDIENCE that will want to listen to what you're doing, THEN the mainstream advertisers buy airtime.

The point isn't that Air America was too over the top for mainstream advertisers, it is that it had no appeal to mainstream LISTENERS.

I very much doubt that the mainstream advertisers would have cared all that much about the shows' contents.

Unless they actually lose sales due to a public boycott campaign or something - which, unless the station is truly offensive, is unlikely to happen except among complete morons. Like those stupid ****s who wanted to get people starting to boycott that major car company for having placed ads in gay lifestyle magazines a couple of months back.

Dark Helmet · Oct 13, 2006, 05:48 PM

Sorry but I have an 8 smiley minimum to read Cody's posts.

Sky Captain · Oct 13, 2006, 05:52 PM

So why in the hell did they even start the station?
They had to know they couldn't muster enough listeners.

olePigeon · Oct 13, 2006, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

I don't listen to Rush either. He's too over the top for me also.
Or Neil Boortz for that matter.
Well, apparently they have a marketable auduance.

Hence, the second part of my question.

TheWOAT · Oct 13, 2006, 06:02 PM

Its more entertaining to listen to people defend Bush than to those who criticize him.

Dark Helmet · Oct 13, 2006, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by TheWOAT

Its more entertaining to listen to people defend Bush than to those who criticize him.

Totally, you have to wonder if they are delusional and actually believe it themselves or if they are just trying to convince themselves.

Sky Captain · Oct 14, 2006, 10:01 AM

Kinda like the defenders of the Democratic Party?

Sky Captain · Oct 14, 2006, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Hence, the second part of my question.

Hmmm. I wonder too.
I believe most of the left are really moderate.
And Air America isolated their audiance.

TheWOAT · Oct 14, 2006, 02:45 PM

I think most markets are covered by current stations with lefty hosts. If I want a lefty POV, I turn to KGO 810... If I want a moderate (right), moderate (Left), extreme left, or plain right, KGO again. Of course, if they would have fired Pete Wilson, I would have stopped listening, but thats another can of worms

ink · Oct 14, 2006, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Sky Captain

No, what this proves is that no advertiser wants to be associated with shreaking moonbats.

Or that liberals don't buy herbal remedies, space-age sleeping matteresses or pre-fab hardwood floors.

It probably has more to do with them sucking than the advertisers.

goMac · Oct 14, 2006, 02:59 PM

<Cody>OMG MARK FOLEY IS A CHILD MOLESTER. Therefore, ALL REPUBLICANS ARE CHILD MOLESTERS.</Cody>

Railroader · Oct 14, 2006, 03:40 PM

I tried listening to AirAmerica when it first came out.

I quickly realized the MO was insults, mocking, and attacking conservatives. There was zero talk of what good the liberal parties offered. That kind of thing got old quickly.