[moonmonkey]

I found it refreshing that the cheapest beer in my local Hong Kong supermarket is Milwaukee's Best, this is 20% cheaper than the cheapest of the Chinese beers.

FYI 32 HK$ for 12 cans thats approx. 0.34 USD per can

Go USA!

[turtle777]

Funny you should mention.

I can often get German beer cheaper in the US than good American beer.
Of course, this excludes horse piss like Bud, Miller or Coors, which really is not beer.

Go Germany.

-t

[downinflames68]

As a Milwaukee Native, I find this post humorous.

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

As a Milwaukee Native, I find this post humorous.

I would hope you would. "Milwaukee's Best" brand is a beer that may be useful for certain cooking applications-but probably not. It is the cheapest (not just least expensive) beer I've ever encountered. It was THE beverage at a cook out I went to once, and I picked up a can thinking "how horrible could it be?" One sip told me... I carried around an almost completely full can the rest of the afternoon. YUCK!

I'm probably a bit spoiled by being introduced to a variety of beers that are better made and better tasting, including my favorites, the darker beers like porters. But there's a pretty much authentic old-world brewery about 2 hours from my house in Shiner, Texas, that makes a nice, broad line of different beers that aren't wimpy or crappy-nor overly expensive-so I just choose local and I'm happy! My introduction to bock beer was in about 1981, when someone brought a gallon jug of Shiner Bock to a party...they don't sell it that way anymore (), but it's just as good in bottles!

[OreoCookie]

I doubt even Milwaukee's best qualifies as beer.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

Of course, this excludes horse piss like Bud, Miller or Coors, which really is not beer.

Seconded

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

Funny you should mention.

I can often get German beer cheaper in the US than good American beer.
Of course, this excludes horse piss like Bud, Miller or Coors, which really is not beer.

Go Germany.

-t

Bud is good for cooking, as is Miller. Coors, on the other hand, is slightly carbonated water that has been in the same room with beer. Coors Light is slightly carbonated water that's been canned and then driven past a real brewery. Probably a microbrewery, too.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

As a Milwaukee Native, I find this post humorous.

Originally Posted by OreoCookie 

I doubt even Milwaukee's best qualifies as beer.

I'd have to agree. However, we don't know the standards of beer from China. Milwaukee's best indeed might be superior to those.

-t

[downinflames68]

Originally Posted by ghporter 

I would hope you would. "Milwaukee's Best" brand is a beer that may be useful for certain cooking applications-but probably not. It is the cheapest (not just least expensive) beer I've ever encountered. It was THE beverage at a cook out I went to once, and I picked up a can thinking "how horrible could it be?" One sip told me... I carried around an almost completely full can the rest of the afternoon. YUCK!

It's not that bad, there is MUCH worse out there, and MUCH cheaper. Hamm's. Steel Reserve. Jaguar. Oh, and all of these have much more body than Coors.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

I'd have to agree. However, we don't know the standards of beer from China. Milwaukee's best indeed might be superior to those.

-t

Tsingtao is pretty decent. (Though not as good as it used to be - up until 1993, it was brewed by the German Reinheitsgebot of 1516, as it was founded by Germans in the early 1900's.)

[turtle777]

On a different note: it's funny how even the cheapest German beer in the US (Wernersgrüner at Aldi) will beat any of the cheap US beers both in price and in taste. I think the 6 pack is like $4.50 or so.

-t

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

On a different note: it's funny how even the cheapest German beer in the US (Wernersgrüner at Aldi) will beat any of the cheap US beers both in price and in taste. I think the 6 pack is like $4.50 or so.

-t

Price is probably the result of a successful campaign creating the impression that the likes of Bud are for manly men and anything European are for girly men.

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

It's not that bad, there is MUCH worse out there, and MUCH cheaper. Hamm's. Steel Reserve. Jaguar. Oh, and all of these have much more body than Coors.

I'd forgotten about Hamm's. You're right that it is horrible.

[OreoCookie]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

It's not that bad, there is MUCH worse out there, and MUCH cheaper. Hamm's. Steel Reserve. Jaguar. Oh, and all of these have much more body than Coors.

That's the lamest excuse I've heard

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot 

Tsingtao is pretty decent. (Though not as good as it used to be - up until 1993, it was brewed by the German Reinheitsgebot of 1516, as it was founded by Germans in the early 1900's.)

From what beer-drinking* friends have told me over the years, Tsingtao is the best Chinese beer widely available in China. It’s not a beer-beer, though, if that makes sense. It accompanies a meal very well, and is good on a hot summer day; but go out and drink yourself into a drunken stupor on Tsingtao alone, and you’ll be frightfully sorry you ever came near it.

Yanjing, I’m told, is also decent. And there are many other smaller breweries that make decent beer, but those are usually only available in the city/area where they make them (as with all smaller breweries)—and they’re obviously more expensive, too. Tsingtao and Yanjing are the two major players on the Chinese market (of Chinese origin—Kirin and Carlsberg are major players, too).


(* Meaning ‘friends of mine who do drink beer’, as opposed to me, since I don’t—wasn’t implying that my friends are drunks)

[AKcrab]

Which cheap american piss advertises "triple hops"? I'm guessing they mean literally, they use exactly 3 hops. The commercial makes me giggle.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by ghporter 

Bud is good for cooking, as is Miller. Coors, on the other hand, is slightly carbonated water that has been in the same room with beer. Coors Light is slightly carbonated water that's been canned and then driven past a real brewery. Probably a microbrewery, too.

The first beer I ever had was Coors, and I thought I hated beer for a long time after. The only carbonated water that could possibly taste like has already passed through a human urinary system.

[downinflames68]

I hate coors. HATE it.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

I hate coors. HATE it.

I never had one. Bad enough I tainted my taste buds (no pun intended) with Bud.

-t

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

I never had one. Bad enough I tainted my taste buds (no pun intended) with Bud.

-t

Regular Bud is "good beer" compared to Coors. Stay away from "the silver bullet."

Went to a "beer tasting" a couple years ago. It's in quotes because it really was a "beer drinking" (we didn't waste any of the beer) at a festival whose sponsors included Budwiser. So we had Bud Light at the tasting. It rinses glasses really well. Seriously, that's all we did with the stuff-rinse out glasses for reuse with a different beer. You'd be amazed at how different two different stouts, or two different porters can taste. And for the record, I like porter because it's rich and flavorful; the name is just an added benefit.

[Arty50]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

It's not that bad, there is MUCH worse out there, and MUCH cheaper. Hamm's. Steel Reserve. Jaguar. Oh, and all of these have much more body than Coors.

Originally Posted by ghporter 

I'd forgotten about Hamm's. You're right that it is horrible.

Both of you are dead to me. Hamm's is gold in a can.

Part of being a beer lover is having a dirty, cheap beer that you love. Otherwise, you're just a snob.

[Laminar]

Originally Posted by ghporter 

I would hope you would. "Milwaukee's Best" brand is a beer that may be useful for certain cooking applications-but probably not. It is the cheapest (not just least expensive) beer I've ever encountered. It was THE beverage at a cook out I went to once, and I picked up a can thinking "how horrible could it be?" One sip told me... I carried around an almost completely full can the rest of the afternoon. YUCK!

I'm probably a bit spoiled by being introduced to a variety of beers that are better made and better tasting, including my favorites, the darker beers like porters. But there's a pretty much authentic old-world brewery about 2 hours from my house in Shiner, Texas, that makes a nice, broad line of different beers that aren't wimpy or crappy-nor overly expensive-so I just choose local and I'm happy! My introduction to bock beer was in about 1981, when someone brought a gallon jug of Shiner Bock to a party...they don't sell it that way anymore (), but it's just as good in bottles!

Shiner Bock is great. Have you asked them about the ram?

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by Arty50 

Both of you are dead to me. Hamm's is gold in a can.

Part of being a beer lover is having a dirty, cheap beer that you love. Otherwise, you're just a snob.

I respectfully disagree. I'm no snob. I just prefer darker, more flavorful beers. And I peraonally dislike Hamm's about as much as I dislike Coors.

Originally Posted by Laminar 

Shiner Bock is great. Have you asked them about the ram?

Next time I visit the brewery I will ask. Did I mention that they have a visitor center that offers tasting? Yep. Yum!

[Arty50]

Originally Posted by ghporter 

I respectfully disagree. I'm no snob. I just prefer darker, more flavorful beers. And I peraonally dislike Hamm's about as much as I dislike Coors.

I need to work on my sarcastic writing.

Seriously though, when you're out wakesurfing on a high alpine lake in the middle of summer Hamm's tastes pretty damn good. Admittedly, it's no La Fin du Monde, but it has its place.

[OreoCookie]

Originally Posted by Arty50 

Both of you are dead to me. Hamm's is gold in a can.

Part of being a beer lover is having a dirty, cheap beer that you love. Otherwise, you're just a snob.

Gold perhaps. Cue obvious analogy here
You're not a snob because you insist on drinkable beer. Good beer doesn't have to be expensive, but there is no excuse calling pee water drinkable

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by downinflames68 

As a Milwaukee Native, I find this post humorous.

You didn't end your sentence with "doncha know."

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by Arty50 

I need to work on my sarcastic writing.

Seriously though, when you're out wakesurfing on a high alpine lake in the middle of summer Hamm's tastes pretty damn good. Admittedly, it's no La Fin du Monde, but it has its place.

Originally Posted by OreoCookie 

Gold perhaps. Cue obvious analogy here
You're not a snob because you insist on drinkable beer. Good beer doesn't have to be expensive, but there is no excuse calling pee water drinkable

I've been known to imbibe a friend's Miller Lite when I've been helping with yard work (replaced a fence with a friend a while back-hot and heavy work), but Hamm's is just not to my liking. It just doesn't have enough hop flavor, and it's generally too flat for me-mainly because I'm not into lagers. But Fin du Monde isn't my personal "this is what beer should be." Chimay is. Chimay Blue, to be specific. A female friend, on drinking it for the first time said, "it should be called 'she will,' not 'she may.'" "Nuff said?