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dhinkel
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Mar 4, 2004, 03:06 PM
 
Wouldn't the child be crying if it was cut with a knife? All children I know would.......

When will this fvckhead be banned

"If Bush says we hate freedom, let him tell us why we didn't attack Sweden, for example. OBL 29th oct
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 03:20 PM
 
Originally posted by dhinkel:
Typical Islamic rituals, held on March 2 this year, showing devotion to Allah by stabbing children.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...bei11103021547


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...003021506&e=20


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...bei10903021537
How is that different from a briss?
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Mar 4, 2004, 03:22 PM
 


(just for the hell of it)
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 03:23 PM
 
Originally posted by MacNStein:
How is that different from a briss?
I was going to make a similar point, but the picture I found grossed me out too much.
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Maiming children for God
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 03:36 PM
 
DHinkel's posts might be controversial, but I don't think he should be banned just because he's not far-left like most people here.
     
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Originally posted by John F. Smith:
DHinkel's posts might be controversial, but I don't think he should be banned just because he's not far-left like most people here.
Yes, nothing like a few out-of-context pictures to incite hatred.
     
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Drowning people for God

     
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At least Jews and Muslims don't eat God's body and drink his blood
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 03:56 PM
 
Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Yes, nothing like a few out-of-context pictures to incite hatred.
As though bathing babies and children in their blood is appropriate within a certain context. thankfully the vast majority of muslims don't do these types of things.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 03:59 PM
 
Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Yes, nothing like a few out-of-context pictures to incite hatred.
right,
Shias are not the only religious branch who have pain inflicting rituals. These commemorate the martyrdom of Ali and Husssein.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:01 PM
 
Originally posted by John F. Smith:
DHinkel's posts might be controversial, but I don't think he should be banned just because he's not far-left like most people here.
Then why were the other posters, who were accused of anti-semitism, banned so quickly?


Oh, I see.......

"If Bush says we hate freedom, let him tell us why we didn't attack Sweden, for example. OBL 29th oct
     
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Originally posted by John F. Smith:
thankfully the vast majority of muslims don't do these types of things.
Does dhinkel's post say that? No.

Originally posted by dhinkel
Typical Islamic rituals, held on March 2 this year, showing devotion to Allah by stabbing children.
He implies that this is a common practice.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:19 PM
 
Originally posted by Logic:
Then why were the other posters, who were accused of anti-semitism, banned so quickly?


Oh, I see.......
because....because.....oh.
     
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Originally posted by itai195:
At least Jews and Muslims don't eat God's body and drink his blood
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:24 PM
 
Originally posted by Logic:
Then why were the other posters, who were accused of anti-semitism, banned so quickly?


Oh, I see.......
If you are speakng of PerryP he didn't get banned for being anti-semitic. He got banned for not dropping it like he was asked to.

You know, making thread after thread after thread telling the mods how they are doing things wrongly etc. You remember that fagg*t thread he made right?

It had nothing to do with his comments before.

Having said that, this guy above is equally toolish. He should be gone as well.

So no, Perry was not banned for being anti-Semitic. He was just not liked because he was.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:26 PM
 
perryp wasn't even banned that quickly. He was allowed to keep trolling for several weeks as I remember. Anyway, if he was bad enough to ban, dhinkel is too.
     
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Originally posted by itai195:
perryp wasn't even banned that quickly. He was allowed to keep trolling for several weeks as I remember.

You are indeed correct. Revisionists are funny.

Anyway, if he was bad enough to ban, dhinkel is too.
I don't think anyone will argue with you here.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:32 PM
 
Originally posted by itai195:
Anyway, if he was bad enough to ban, dhinkel is too.
Wait for it...
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:32 PM
 
Originally posted by itai195:
perryp wasn't even banned that quickly. He was allowed to keep trolling for several weeks as I remember. Anyway, if he was bad enough to ban, dhinkel is too.
Yup, and dhinkel has been allowed his trolling for several weeks now as well. His threads aren't even locked.

Again, wonder why.........

"If Bush says we hate freedom, let him tell us why we didn't attack Sweden, for example. OBL 29th oct
     
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Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
Wait for it...
don't hold your breath......

"If Bush says we hate freedom, let him tell us why we didn't attack Sweden, for example. OBL 29th oct
     
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Originally posted by Logic:
Yup, and dhinkel has been allowed his trolling for several weeks now as well. His threads aren't even locked.

Again, wonder why.........
:SHRUG: I dunno, maybe the mods believe in equal trolling opportunity?

I'm just responding to the claim that anti-Semites are somehow insta-banned, it's not true.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:35 PM
 
Logic Perry's threads weren't being locked either. There is no conspiracy.

You'll find out if dhink started being an ass to the mods the way Perry was, he would indeed be banned by now.

Again, Perry did not get banned for making anti-Semitic remarks.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:39 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
Logic Perry's threads weren't being locked either. There is no conspiracy.

You'll find out if dhink started being an ass to the mods the way Perry was, he would indeed be banned by now.

Again, Perry did not get banned for making anti-Semitic remarks.
so.....you're saying as long as one brown-noses the mods, they can escape banning, no matter how reprehensible or annoying their posts are?

quick, zim, what color is your nose?
     
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Well duh lerkfish, how did you think Zimphire made his way back in here?
     
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Originally posted by Lerkfish:
so.....you're saying as long as one brown-noses the mods, they can escape banning, no matter how reprehensible or annoying their posts are?
No tried it, didn't work

quick, zim, what color is your nose?
The same as yours.

If staying out of the forum you are banned from for the entire time you are banned constitutes are brown nosing, so be it.

THAT is why I keep getting let back in. When I am banned. I respect the bannination.

Not because I brown nose to Demon.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:45 PM
 
Back to the topic....

How do rituals like this begin in the first place? I'm assuming it doesn't say anything in the Koran that you should split your head open with a knife.
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:47 PM
 
so now people want me banned! for what? for pointing things out that some don't want to know? (or want others to know?) I have every confidence in the good judgement of the moderators. No one can be banned simply for holding a political opinion that is unpopular with anti-semitic europeans.
     
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Originally posted by dhinkel:
so now people want me banned! for what? for pointing things out that some don't want to know? (or want others to know?) I have every confidence in the good judgement of the moderators. No one can be banned simply for holding a political opinion that is unpopular with anti-semitic europeans.
Hey I am not European or anti-semitic. And I think you are being silly.

What does that tell you?

There is a difference between pointing things out, and exaggerating the petty to make it look worse than it it.

in the big scheme of things, do you think this little incident really matters?

You can post your beliefs without the drama, or the constant posting of anti-whatever you are against threads 24/7.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 04:58 PM
 
I'm sorry, I don't see whats wrong with the post. It's a religious ceremony and he backed it up with a link to a news story, no?

Besides, get a sharpknife, cut your forhead and add a little sweat or water...it doesn't really hurt that bad.
     
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dhinkel's posts aren't just about their content, it's about intent.
the wording he uses is an attempt to make Muslims look barbaric. this is the point of many of his posts. he has now been warned not to do this again.

he could have shown these pictures and asked if this was common, or what Muslims on the board thought of it. but instead he used the word "typical" and "stabbing children" instead.
     
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Thanks oh mighty Demonhood.

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^

tsk tsk, we only worship one God, remember?
     
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I don't really see anyone trying to defend dhinkel's way of posting here.

Sorry I can't say the same when Perry was doing the same.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 07:43 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
I don't really see anyone trying to defend dhinkel's way of posting here.

Sorry I can't say the same when Perry was doing the same.
Perry was asking lots of questions all the time,
whereas this dude is making affirmations, + posting traumatizing pics which is imo worse.(was the children's blood even real?)

thanks for this moderation
coke praises,

I dont mean to be offensive, one of my very few best friends Hasan, is shia and lives in Jeddah. He has a huge heart. A fantastic person.







Demonhood, thanks,

the other thread really *MacNN and Arabs made me boil and laugh, I needed that.
BTW I wanted to start a thread about how disturbing this habit is of changing nicks all the time some regulars have.

I think its not good for a forum to have too many fast-changes.
Its fine when people change nick, because of it being used out, they usually give clues that they will do so and prepare the regulars to the fact they are "muting".

Changing at this speed (at least 3 regular addicts change every 3 days) takes a forum out of balance.

People like Zimp and the others who assume their personalities,with a respectable amount of postings give forums stability.

The addicts of nicks put the place through ups and downs, anyway I get tired of it, because some are antagonistic and dont assume it or disappear when the situation becomes uncomfortable, and the debate turns to their disadvantage.

What is the average number of poster who changes nick?
Out of those, how many had to do it because of being banished?


I have not been very long here, but I have seen many many names vanish.
     
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Originally posted by swrate:




Sorry swrate.. I cannot help it but...

what if, instead of coke, this had been Pepsi???


LOL
     
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Originally posted by angaq0k:
Sorry swrate.. I cannot help it but...

what if, instead of coke, this had been Pepsi???


LOL
that would be Pepsi praises would it not?
     
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( Last edited by daimoni; Apr 21, 2004 at 12:28 PM. )
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Originally posted by swrate:
that would be Pepsi praises would it not?
...and get a FREE iTUNES SONG!!!!!!
     
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Originally posted by dhinkel:
Typical Islamic rituals, held on March 2 this year, showing devotion to Allah by stabbing children.

[img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040302/
Typical Christian rituals, held on Easter in dozens of countries around the world.





**** you and the horse you rode in on, dhinkel.

-s*
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 09:18 PM
 
I guess all you have succeeded in doing, dhinkel, is reminding us that religious people are really odd. Thanks for the reminder.
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I think dhinkel *is* perryp, personally.
     
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That is pretty sick. But that Shi'ite scourging used to be a Christian practise that carried over into Islam. Some Benedictine monks still whip themselves but they use a soft rope instead. Chickens.

But honestly, even circumcision on a baby is the same. It's baby hacking. I saw a baby die of heart attack from it once. It shouldn't be allowed. If someone wants to hack a foreskin off it should be when the boy is old enough to decide for themselves. For many it is done in the teens, but babies are still being abused like this. No doubt many here will defend it but that's only because they've had it done and might not want to swallow their pride.
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 09:51 PM
 
Originally posted by itai195:
At least Jews and Muslims don't eat God's body and drink his blood
It's not kosher or halal
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 09:56 PM
 
Originally posted by gadster:
I guess all you have succeeded in doing, dhinkel, is reminding us that religious people are really odd. Thanks for the reminder.
http://www.americanscientist.org/tem.../assetid/31326

Very interesting article...

Quote:

"Rituals promote group cohesion by requiring members to engage in behavior that is too costly to fake"

(My emphasis)

"Why do Hari Krishnas shave their heads? Why do Mormons abstain from coffee, tobacco and alcohol? And why do so many religious groups have strict initiation rites, ranging from bathing in icy water to painful scarification, hair plucking and genital mutilation? In other words, why all the ordeals and sacrifices? Most attempts to explain religious rituals and taboos have focused on the spiritual benefits of these practices, but anthropologist Richard Sosis thinks there's a more fundamental reason. They signal commitment to the group, and prevent those who are uncommitted from gaining the benefits of membership. After all, who but a believer would engage in these costly acts?"
     
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Mar 4, 2004, 11:02 PM
 
It's not like Muslim sects are the only religious groups to practice questionable forms of worship. Look at the Corporal Mortification practiced by Opus Dei, a group sanctioned by the Vatican, that employs such niceties as the discipline and the cilice.
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Mar 4, 2004, 11:46 PM
 
Originally posted by TheWorldIsFlat:
If someone wants to hack a foreskin off it should be when the boy is old enough to decide for themselves.
Hello?! There's a reason they get you before you can run, you know.
     
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Mar 5, 2004, 12:46 AM
 
Originally posted by swrate:
Perry was asking lots of questions all the time,

He may have. But that doesn't make up for his obvious anti-Semitic silliness.

BTW I wanted to start a thread about how disturbing this habit is of changing nicks all the time some regulars have.
There are more people that have more than one account that have been using one to post regular posts and other to post things they don't have the guts to say with their regular nick.

That is what i have ben told anyhow.
     
 
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