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OwlBoy · Aug 22, 2006, 03:34 PM

Will these apps actually get made?

<cough>MacThemes.net Contest</cough>

-Owl

Chuckit · Aug 22, 2006, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by torsoboy

That sucks. I changed my mind about this contest. Two things suck about this... 1) they said NET INCOME instead of GROSS INCOME, meaning that they can claim it cost 1 million to develop and $50k a month to host, and you end up with nothing even if it makes 1.5 million the first year; 2) They own the rights to the idea, but you only get paid for the Macintosh-compatible version. Yeah, I will be staying away from that "contest" of who can make them the most money.

You clearly don't have an app you'd like to see get made. Good job staying away from a contest that is not for you.

torsoboy · 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

You clearly don't have an app you'd like to see get made. Good job staying away from a contest that is not for you.

I agree that the contest is good for people with a great idea, but never plan on developing it. Kindof the "It would be nice if...." type of ideas. Not for a commercial app or something that you were hoping to get rich from. I just started with the wrong idea with what the contest was about.

And I do have apps I'd like to see made. I just hope to profit from them when they do get made.

Chuckit · Aug 22, 2006, 04:28 PM

OK, yeah, phrased that a bit wrong.

Dakar · Aug 22, 2006, 04:30 PM

That Macintosh compatible detail sounds HUGE

- - e r i k - - · Aug 22, 2006, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by OwlBoy

Will these apps actually get made?

<cough>MacThemes.net Contest</cough>

-Owl

Pnwed!

Amorya · Aug 22, 2006, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by torsoboy

That sucks. I changed my mind about this contest. Two things suck about this... 1) they said NET INCOME instead of GROSS INCOME, meaning that they can claim it cost 1 million to develop and $50k a month to host, and you end up with nothing even if it makes 1.5 million the first year; 2) They own the rights to the idea, but you only get paid for the Macintosh-compatible version. Yeah, I will be staying away from that "contest" of who can make them the most money.

Hey, I'm entering simply because I want the app idea to be made! Personally, if they make it at all it'll save me having to do it myself. Any money would be a bonus

Amorya

phillryu · Aug 24, 2006, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by OwlBoy

Will these apps actually get made?

<cough>MacThemes.net Contest</cough>

-Owl

Heh, call that a good learning experience. We even have one of the biggest critics of the MT contest on board to develop one of the ideas (Jason Harris, ShapeShifter, mrsmeger on these forums).

I see that most of your questions regarding ownership of ideas and such were answered by other members on these forums. I think our terms strike a fair balance between covering our asses and making things reasonable for contestants.

Just hit 1800 ideas submitted.

DeathMan · Aug 25, 2006, 12:14 AM

my idea is a wiki.

Ice Spectre · Aug 26, 2006, 07:47 AM

Holy crap, they're nearing on 2000 ideas!

Peter · Aug 26, 2006, 08:37 AM

we'll (MacNN) be interviewing the guys from MyDreamApp in the upcoming days, if anyone has any questions or queries they'd like to put to the team feel free to reply in this post or mail me.

Landos Mustache · Sep 6, 2006, 01:06 PM

"The first three finalists include “Herald,” an newsreading application that presents sections similar to a virtual newspaper, with publishing characteristics not unlike iWeb; Stick-It, a sticky note application that lets notes be attached in apps, menus or windows; and Desktop Wars, a real-time strategy game that uses the Mac OS X desktop as a battlefield, with support for mouse, voice and motion sensor."

Macworld: News: First 'My Dream App' finalists announced

Wow, that sucks.

starman · Sep 6, 2006, 01:14 PM

Out of 2700 ideas, THOSE are the finalists?

Landos Mustache · Sep 6, 2006, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by starman

Out of 2700 ideas, THOSE are the finalists?

Dreamy aren't they.

I've always wanted to have a war on my current desktop but I find the current Finder does that job nicely already.

rickey939 · Sep 6, 2006, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by starman

Out of 2700 ideas, THOSE are the finalists?

Those are the first 3 announced of 24 finalists is all.

demograph68 · Sep 6, 2006, 01:40 PM

They better do better than that!

Landos Mustache · Sep 6, 2006, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by rickey939

Those are the first 3 announced of 24 finalists is all.

Well bad way to start off then.

the remaining ones better be dreamier!

wvx · Sep 6, 2006, 01:54 PM

I want to go to war with that darned beachball and destroy it already!

rickey939 · Sep 6, 2006, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Well bad way to start off then.

the remaining ones better be dreamier!

What do you have in mind?

Landos Mustache · Sep 6, 2006, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by rickey939

What do you have in mind?

Well for one an APP not a game like the name of the contest suggest.

Other than that something new, original, fun which isn't sticky notes.

RAILhead · Sep 6, 2006, 02:00 PM

THANKS GOODESS!!11! We need another newsreader!

rickey939 · Sep 6, 2006, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Well for one an APP not a game like the name of the contest suggest.

Other than that something new, original, fun which isn't sticky notes.

A game is an application. I'd be interested to hear what you say after all 24 finalists are named.

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by RAILhead

THANKS GOODESS!!11! We need another newsreader!

Whoa, there. Save some of those ones for the strip club.

(You're right, though)

Stradlater · Sep 6, 2006, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by demograph68

"THE ONLY ROYALTIES WINNERS ARE ENTITLED TO ARE FIFTEEN (15) PERCENT OF THE NET INCOME OF THE APPLE MACINTOSH-COMPATIBLE VERSION OF THE PRODUCT "

Of course, this didn't stop me from submitting my own mediocre idea....

Originally Posted by Dakar

That Macintosh compatible detail sounds HUGE

Well, Windows applications are now, technically and arguably, "Apple Macintosh-compatible", right?

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Stradlater

Well, Windows applications are now, technically and arguably, "Apple Macintosh-compatible", right?

Good luck.

Stradlater · Sep 6, 2006, 02:45 PM

I have very little interest in the developments (ha) in this contest; I didn't submit an idea, etc. etc. etc.

However, if it boiled down to them selling a Windows version that did much better, and if they withheld the money from the winner, all I'm saying is he could stand up in court.

Landos Mustache · Sep 6, 2006, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by rickey939

A game is an application. I'd be interested to hear what you say after all 24 finalists are named.

Ya I'll be saying "A game is not an application".

SHOW ME THE APPS!

Dakar · Sep 6, 2006, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Stradlater

I have very little interest in the developments (ha) in this contest; I didn't submit an idea, etc. etc. etc.

However, if it boiled down to them selling a Windows version that did much better, and if they withheld the money from the winner, all I'm saying is he could stand up in court.

I'd hope you're right. My guess is they'd define Macintosh compatible, and it'd become a war between whehter the OS or the Hardware was implied.

rickey939 · Sep 6, 2006, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Ya I'll be saying "A game is not an application".

SHOW ME THE APPS!

For all we know, 23 of the 24 finalists will be "APPS"...

Landos Mustache · Sep 7, 2006, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by rickey939

For all we know, 23 of the 24 finalists will be "APPS"...

Yes lets hope. Lets also hope those Apps are not sticky notes in each app.

I'm sure a couple of them will be cool idea's but making them public like that opens the door to someone else stealing the idea that didn't win.

Stradlater · Sep 7, 2006, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Yes lets hope. Lets also hope those Apps are not sticky notes in each app.

Or rickey notes for that matter.

rickey939 · Sep 7, 2006, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Stradlater

Or rickey notes for that matter.

Yummy.

Landos Mustache · Sep 7, 2006, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by rickey939

Yummy.

Don't be sad. I'll send you a paper notepad, or if you like... a dry erasure to write all over your screen. Does a marker count as an App?

rickey939 · Sep 7, 2006, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Don't be sad. I'll send you a paper notepad, or if you like... a dry erasure to write all over your screen. Does a marker count as an App?

I'll take a mechanical pencil instead please, I like breaking the lead multiple times when writing all over the keyboard.

Chuckit · Sep 7, 2006, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

I'm sure a couple of them will be cool idea's but making them public like that opens the door to someone else stealing the idea that didn't win.

To be quite honest, I don't see the problem there (or rather, I don't see why the problem is bigger here than anywhere else). If your app is successful, you'll get imitators as well. There's always the risk that somebody will have the same idea as you, either on their own or by hearing yours. The fact is, ideas are cheap. I get hundreds of them for free every day straight from my brain. It's the work and finesse required to make a quality app that will decide whether a program sinks or swims.

besson3c · 05:13 PM

My Dreamy App: Xen for OS X (although I don't know if I'd ever use it).

I'd also like a system-wide software update mechanism that will update all my freeware/open source, but I think my best chance of getting this is Macports once they have built in support for installing binaries.

Adam Betts · Sep 21, 2006, 10:36 AM

My Dream App voting up now:

http://mydreamapp.com/vote/

For LIVE voting result:

http://mydreamapp.com/live/

Vote for Blossom please

RAILhead · Sep 21, 2006, 11:04 AM

Man, all those ideas are utter crap. I don't have a better one, but still -- those are all crap.

Amorya · Sep 21, 2006, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

The fact is, ideas are cheap. I get hundreds of them for free every day straight from my brain. It's the work and finesse required to make a quality app that will decide whether a program sinks or swims.

Yes!

So many people miss that. You get people on programmer forums saying "I can't program but I have this cool idea; how about you make it and we split the profit 50:50?"

Some developer once pointed out that an idea was worth about a beer. You buy them a drink, and then get on with the hard work of making the app. Perhaps a few drinks if it's well fleshed out.

I have hundreds of app ideas myself. In fact, on my to-do list was the same idea as Hi-jack (a forum browsing app). Do I mind that someone else submitted it and may get the prize? No! I'm just glad that the app may get made, and to a better standard than I could do.

OwlBoy · Sep 21, 2006, 11:24 AM

Dang, looks like the only girl in the contest is gonna get removed in the first few rounds.

-Owl

starman · Sep 21, 2006, 11:29 AM

The funny this is, I came up with a better idea on my own.

Of course, it's for me; no idea if anyone else would care about it.

Chuckit · Sep 21, 2006, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by OwlBoy

Dang, looks like the only girl in the contest is gonna get removed in the first few rounds.

It's a shame. Her idea is way less suck than a lot of those. (I mean, not that I think it's great, but those are a lot worse.)

I do love how she starts her bio with "I'm not much of a girly girl" and then her app is…the computer equivalent of a Barbie Dream Closet or something.

OwlBoy · Sep 21, 2006, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

It's a shame. Her idea is way less suck than a lot of those. (I mean, not that I think it's great, but those are a lot worse.)

I do love how she starts her bio with "I'm not much of a girly girl" and then her app is…the computer equivalent of a Barbie Dream Closet or something.

Heh yeah, not the best idea, but better than others and it was nice to see that a there was a girl in the running.

-Owl

Peter · Sep 21, 2006, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Adam Betts

My Dream App voting up now:

http://mydreamapp.com/vote/

For LIVE voting result:

http://mydreamapp.com/live/

Vote for Blossom please

Blossom is the only idea there that i like.

andi*pandi · Sep 21, 2006, 01:08 PM

I liked a few--blossom for the fun of it, minerva, and cookbook if it's done well and not too overcomplicated. Mostly for generating grocery lists from recipes, by week.

OwlBoy · Sep 21, 2006, 01:17 PM

Cookbook looks so slick.

-Owl

Dark Helmet · Sep 21, 2006, 01:29 PM

I'm surprised how bla they all are. Even if every app was already developed and freeware the only ones I would download is Minerva, and iGotPets. So far that silly game seems to be winning.

On a side note Marshall Kucharczyk is a hottie

- - e r i k - - · Sep 21, 2006, 11:50 PM

I voted for Cookbook and Blossom and a few more from the first column. Some good ideas there.

Wouldn't vote for the game though.

Dark Helmet · Sep 22, 2006, 10:51 AM

Non of them really seem like a "killer app" though and if it wasn't for this publicity they would probably never even get noticed.

Amorya · Sep 22, 2006, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Non of them really seem like a "killer app" though and if it wasn't for this publicity they would probably never even get noticed.

I think Hijack could be.