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Comparison of a 17" 1ghz to a 17" 1.5ghz?
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kmarketing
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Jun 12, 2004, 08:42 AM
 
Hi,

Like I posted before, I think I got a decent deal for an absolutely mint rev a 17" powerbook 1ghz. I was wondering if any of you upgraded to a 17" 1.5 ghz.

I searched and found many comparisons between the 1.33 model and the 1.5, but not many between the 1ghz and the 1.5. Certainly the 1.5 is probably a ton faster, but as a laptop the speed is not the only main factor for me.

Heat issues and battery life along with some speed are the major factors for me in a powerbook. So far with the 1ghz, it seems to fit what I need pretty well. It's fast enough, doesn't get too hot, and the battery lasts quite a bit longer than the 15" i used to have.

What is your take? Is the new one much better in these 3 categories?

Also, I know there is a newer, more powerful 17" battery (58 watts I believe). Will that fit the 1ghz model?

Thanks for all your help!!
     
urrl78
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Jun 12, 2004, 10:53 AM
 
All I have to offer is an Xbench result for my 1 Ghz 17"
Can you give your results?

Results 104.60
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.4 (7H63)
Physical RAM 512 MB
Model PowerBook5,1
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.00 GHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v3.3
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 1.00 GHz
L3 Cache 1024K @ 200 MHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card GeForce4 MX
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK6021GAS
CPU Test 120.64
GCD Loop 117.75 4.60 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 120.68 436.43 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 119.25 3.46 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 124.14 1.93 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 121.54 4.87 Mops/sec
Thread Test 88.49
Computation 64.08 865.10 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 142.95 1.79 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 149.11
System 170.10
Allocate 647.07 422.08 Kalloc/sec
Fill 180.18 1434.24 MB/sec
Copy 94.87 474.34 MB/sec
Stream 132.72
Copy 130.83 956.40 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 129.37 954.74 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 127.41 815.40 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 144.60 883.52 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 134.88
Line 116.65 2.97 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 121.29 8.53 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 137.84 3.18 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 133.63 1.45 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 181.30 2.96 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 112.90
Spinning Squares 112.90 79.00 frames/sec
User Interface Test 204.45
Elements 204.45 65.76 refresh/sec


Hopefully someone will post for their 1.5 Ghz as I am also curious, since I will be swapping my 1 Ghz for a new 1.5 Ghz next week.
     
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Jun 12, 2004, 12:20 PM
 
This is a 15" 1.5ghz. I've seen plenty faster though.

Results 127.78
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.3 (7G43)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerBook5,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.50 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK8026GAX
CPU Test 172.60
GCD Loop 169.13 6.60 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 179.33 648.52 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 184.24 5.35 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 181.68 2.82 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 152.73 6.11 Mops/sec
Thread Test 129.07
Computation 90.89 1.23 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 222.54 2.79 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 120.38
System 113.13
Allocate 695.39 453.60 Kalloc/sec
Fill 156.05 1242.18 MB/sec
Copy 53.56 267.78 MB/sec
Stream 128.62
Copy 130.51 954.06 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 131.80 972.67 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 128.98 825.46 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 123.51 754.62 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 177.89
Line 147.44 3.75 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 160.32 11.28 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 172.14 3.97 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 185.78 2.02 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 256.75 4.19 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 114.92
Spinning Squares 114.92 80.42 frames/sec
User Interface Test 230.40
Elements 230.40 74.11 refresh/sec
Disk Test 70.07
Sequential 80.63
Uncached Write 80.41 33.52 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 63.50 26.00 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 170.47 26.99 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 64.27 25.97 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 61.95
Uncached Write 51.80 0.78 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 60.04 13.54 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 67.08 0.44 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 72.99 15.02 MB/sec [256K blocks]
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Jun 13, 2004, 09:22 AM
 
1.50 GHz 17"
Results 122.69
System Info
Xbench Version1.1.3
System Version10.3.4 (7H63)
Physical RAM1024 MB
Model PowerBook 5,5
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.50 GHz
L1 Cache32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache512K @ 1.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK8025GAS
CPU Test177.96
GCD Loop169.616.62 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic178.06643.93 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic183.885.34 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT186.822.90 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library172.646.91 Mops/sec
Thread Test129.19
Computation 92.731.25 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 212.902.67 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 130.76
System 144.52
Allocate 915.98597.49 Kalloc/sec
Fill 144.081146.89 MB/sec
Copy 78.58392.89 MB/sec
Stream 119.40
Copy 114.17834.61 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 122.25902.17 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 123.32789.24 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 118.29722.76 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 177.10
Line 150.193.82 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 153.8810.83 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 166.163.83 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 174.401.90 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 300.904.90 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 109.43
Spinning Squares 109.4376.58 frames/sec
User Interface Test 211.42
Elements 211.4268.00 refresh/sec
Disk Test 60.48
Sequential 71.13
Uncached Write71.3029.72 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write52.8421.64 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read152.7924.19 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read59.7524.14 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 52.61
Uncached Write46.880.70 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write50.1811.32 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read54.160.36 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read61.2912.61 MB/sec [256K blocks]
     
kmarketing  (op)
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Jun 13, 2004, 09:38 AM
 
Hi,

What type of battery life are you getting with your specs?

How is the heat for you powerbooks - any issues?

Also, would any of you know if the newer batteries will fit the rev a model?

Thanks!!
     
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Jun 13, 2004, 06:54 PM
 
Originally posted by kmarketing:

Also, I know there is a newer, more powerful 17" battery (58 watts I believe). Will that fit the 1ghz model?
I have a 1.33 GHz 17 incher, and it has the 58 Watt battery, so unless Apple updated the battery between the 1 and 1.33, the battery is the same.
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kmarketing  (op)
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Jun 13, 2004, 07:13 PM
 
Hi,

Can I assume then that the newer battery can work with the rev a 1ghz 17" powerbook?

And can I also assume this would mean more battery life/power to my older model powerbook?

Thanks!!
     
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Jun 21, 2004, 04:17 PM
 
There are two XBench scores in here for 1.5GHz Powerbooks in the low 120's.

Is it just a little odd that my STOCK 1.5GHz machine gets "149.52" ???

That score was taken before I put my new RAM in... so that's still with 512MB. (my 1GB stick hasn't arrived yet... don't let my sig confuse you).

It's new (almost empty), but I wouldn't expect that to make THAT much of a difference.
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Jun 21, 2004, 07:45 PM
 
Oddly I find my 1 Ghz scores increase and booting time is dramatically quicker after a reformat. Since you have a brand new machine I guess such a score could be possible, but do you have the latest revision of Xbench?

You may be disappointed with your score AFTER adding RAM. I feel added RAM does not necessarily increase speed and is only useful for running multiple applications. It would be interesting if you would post an Xbench score after adding the RAM. It might tempt me to buy more RAM if you have a noticible speed increase. Your post would be proof to me that adding RAM is worth it when using one app at a time.
     
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Jun 21, 2004, 08:39 PM
 
Results 87.14
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.4 (7H63)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerBook5,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.50 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK8026GAX
CPU Test 90.64
GCD Loop 88.35 3.45 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 90.00 325.46 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 91.49 2.66 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 92.33 1.43 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 91.15 3.65 Mops/sec
Thread Test 66.74
Computation 48.11 649.45 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 108.95 1.37 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 118.24
System 120.85
Allocate 485.38 316.61 Kalloc/sec
Fill 109.03 867.90 MB/sec
Copy 73.57 367.85 MB/sec
Stream 115.75
Copy 118.03 862.79 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 118.92 877.62 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 114.14 730.52 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 112.17 685.37 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 111.93
Line 93.65 2.38 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 113.47 7.98 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 113.84 2.62 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 104.29 1.13 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 146.90 2.39 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 60.93
Spinning Squares 60.93 42.64 frames/sec
User Interface Test 149.50
Elements 149.50 48.09 refresh/sec
Disk Test 72.32
Sequential 82.05
Uncached Write 90.03 37.53 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 73.01 29.90 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 134.13 21.23 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 60.64 24.50 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 64.65
Uncached Write 52.57 0.79 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 64.69 14.59 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 69.07 0.46 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 77.47 15.94 MB/sec [256K blocks]
     
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Jun 21, 2004, 08:49 PM
 
I just posted my results, are they fast or slow?
     
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Jun 21, 2004, 09:46 PM
 
is it my RAM, the authorized Mac store (not an official APPLE STORE) did they sell me some sub-par RAM? What does everyone think?


Under System Profile the RAM description reads:

SODIMM0/J25LOWER 512 MB DDR SDRAM PC2700U-25330
SODIMM0/J25UPPER 512 MB DDR SDRAM PC2700U-25330

Is this crappy RAM?

Is the RAM that came with it from APPLE better?
     
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Jun 21, 2004, 11:16 PM
 
Originally posted by jeffdunning:
is it my RAM, the authorized Mac store (not an official APPLE STORE) did they sell me some sub-par RAM? What does everyone think?


Under System Profile the RAM description reads:

SODIMM0/J25LOWER 512 MB DDR SDRAM PC2700U-25330
SODIMM0/J25UPPER 512 MB DDR SDRAM PC2700U-25330

Is this crappy RAM?

Is the RAM that came with it from APPLE better?
Your results are so off that I think that the test was run incorrectly. 1st of all you need to run this with the PB plugged in and make sure that the processor is not set to reduced in the Energy Saver panel. Log out and log back in but hold down the shift key to disable any APEs or other background processes (note: I didn't do this when I ran my test). Also if you have very little hard drive space left (< 2gb) I'd try to free up some space.

When you run the test, don't do anything. Don't switch applications, don't move the mouse, just let it run. I'm sure some of the other folks here have more input to making the numbers better. To be honest who cares as long as your machine is doing what it's supposed to be doing using real applications!
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Jun 22, 2004, 12:24 AM
 
ok, here are my results after do what you instructed:

Results 69.35
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.4 (7H63)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerBook5,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.50 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK8026GAX
CPU Test 91.12
GCD Loop 87.06 3.40 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 92.98 336.25 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 92.15 2.68 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 92.92 1.44 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 90.75 3.63 Mops/sec
Thread Test 66.51
Computation 48.23 651.12 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 107.11 1.34 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 119.42
System 120.49
Allocate 481.66 314.19 Kalloc/sec
Fill 107.92 859.07 MB/sec
Copy 73.76 368.80 MB/sec
Stream 118.37
Copy 121.06 884.96 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 121.08 893.53 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 116.70 746.91 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 114.91 702.07 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 82.60
Line 69.23 1.76 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 69.82 4.91 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 75.63 1.74 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 95.61 1.04 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 123.72 2.02 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 29.69
Spinning Squares 29.69 20.78 frames/sec
User Interface Test 127.97
Elements 127.97 41.16 refresh/sec
Disk Test 77.22
Sequential 93.40
Uncached Write 107.76 44.92 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 72.48 29.68 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 129.54 20.51 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 83.12 33.58 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 65.82
Uncached Write 48.80 0.73 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 69.82 15.75 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 72.07 0.48 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 82.78 17.04 MB/sec [256K blocks]



These look a lot better, thanks for the help.
     
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Jun 22, 2004, 12:38 AM
 
Overall of 69 ! your results are not rite.. are you on ac power with the energy saving power setting set to maximum performance? your cpu is showing 91 that should be 180ish..

I get 132ish with my 1.5 15" with 512mb ram, 5400rpm, 128vram
     
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Jun 22, 2004, 12:50 AM
 
Originally posted by kmarketing:
Hi,

Like I posted before, I think I got a decent deal for an absolutely mint rev a 17" powerbook 1ghz. I was wondering if any of you upgraded to a 17" 1.5 ghz.

I searched and found many comparisons between the 1.33 model and the 1.5, but not many between the 1ghz and the 1.5. Certainly the 1.5 is probably a ton faster, but as a laptop the speed is not the only main factor for me.

Heat issues and battery life along with some speed are the major factors for me in a powerbook. So far with the 1ghz, it seems to fit what I need pretty well. It's fast enough, doesn't get too hot, and the battery lasts quite a bit longer than the 15" i used to have.

What is your take? Is the new one much better in these 3 categories?

Also, I know there is a newer, more powerful 17" battery (58 watts I believe). Will that fit the 1ghz model?

Thanks for all your help!!
It really doesn't matter which notebook of any brand or type you get there will be a considerable amount of heat build up while using it. I had the 17" 1Ghz PB and now I have the 17" 1.33Ghz model. Both have thrown out a lot of heat especially if the Powerbook is lying on top of the blanket on my bed or if it's a warmer day then it will get hot even faster. Playing games or using intensive apps will tax the graphics card which will result in a lot of heat.
Don't even use heat comparisons as a factor in buying a notebook. There is no way for them to stay cool even if you are just surfing the web.
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Jun 22, 2004, 02:51 AM
 
Originally posted by jeffdunning:
ok, here are my results after do what you instructed:

Results 69.35
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.4 (7H63)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerBook5,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.50 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK8026GAX
CPU Test 91.12
GCD Loop 87.06 3.40 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 92.98 336.25 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 92.15 2.68 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 92.92 1.44 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 90.75 3.63 Mops/sec
Thread Test 66.51
Computation 48.23 651.12 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 107.11 1.34 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 119.42
System 120.49
Allocate 481.66 314.19 Kalloc/sec
Fill 107.92 859.07 MB/sec
Copy 73.76 368.80 MB/sec
Stream 118.37
Copy 121.06 884.96 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 121.08 893.53 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 116.70 746.91 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 114.91 702.07 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 82.60
Line 69.23 1.76 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 69.82 4.91 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 75.63 1.74 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 95.61 1.04 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 123.72 2.02 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 29.69
Spinning Squares 29.69 20.78 frames/sec
User Interface Test 127.97
Elements 127.97 41.16 refresh/sec
Disk Test 77.22
Sequential 93.40
Uncached Write 107.76 44.92 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 72.48 29.68 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 129.54 20.51 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 83.12 33.58 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 65.82
Uncached Write 48.80 0.73 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 69.82 15.75 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 72.07 0.48 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 82.78 17.04 MB/sec [256K blocks]



These look a lot better, thanks for the help.
Yeah, something is definitely off. I thought it my be 10.3.4 but I just ran it while running, mail, unread, Launchbar, text edit iCal, Safari, Excel, and menumeters and this is what I came up with this:

Results 124.56
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.4 (7H63)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerBook5,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.50 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK8026GAX
CPU Test 176.49
GCD Loop 161.39 6.30 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 179.01 647.36 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 177.25 5.15 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 188.26 2.92 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 178.75 7.16 Mops/sec
Thread Test 127.50
Computation 93.77 1.27 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 199.14 2.50 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 127.66
System 139.80
Allocate 960.89 626.79 Kalloc/sec
Fill 145.63 1159.23 MB/sec
Copy 73.79 368.95 MB/sec
Stream 117.45
Copy 110.61 808.57 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 120.48 889.17 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 122.42 783.47 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 117.00 714.85 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 176.00
Line 149.26 3.80 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 158.64 11.16 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 168.33 3.88 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 176.94 1.92 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 262.19 4.27 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 115.11
Spinning Squares 115.11 80.55 frames/sec
User Interface Test 219.22
Elements 219.22 70.51 refresh/sec
Disk Test 62.80
Sequential 67.54
Uncached Write 71.13 29.65 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 48.09 19.69 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 142.42 22.54 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 57.65 23.29 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 58.68
Uncached Write 50.06 0.75 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 54.04 12.19 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 66.99 0.44 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 67.74 13.94 MB/sec [256K blocks]
-Toyin
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Jun 27, 2004, 07:13 AM
 
Originally posted by kmarketing:
Can I assume then that the newer battery can work with the rev a 1ghz 17" powerbook?

And can I also assume this would mean more battery life/power to my older model powerbook?
If they've increased the amount of current in the newer batteries then for sure you'll get added life. The 1GHz TiBook introduced a higher current battery - I threw one into my 800DVI TiBook and gained a quite noticable gain in battery life. The 1GHz machine needed that extra current to maintain the existing battery life even with extra battery drain, but using the less-draining 800DVI meant longer life. Can't recall the actual difference though (I only had the 1GHz for a short while, the 17" AlBooks were announced mere months later so switched and thus had to put my old battery back in my 8000DVI).
     
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Jun 27, 2004, 06:37 PM
 
I've run x bench about ten times w/15" PB 1.25ghz 768MB and I average about 132. I just ran it in safe -mode (restart w/shift key) , I got a 61.

OFF the subject - I got a 112 result a while ago and comparing the specifics with the other (higher) scores I don't understand how xbench computes the "Results"
( Last edited by hillcrest; Jun 27, 2004 at 07:55 PM. )
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dodo_nutter
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Jun 27, 2004, 07:20 PM
 
Ok jeff higher scores are better, thought id point that out as it seems you thought 69 was better than 87....both of thee results are waaaaay too slow for your machine

heres my fastest run not in safe mode just with power and with nothing else running:


Results 137.35
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.3 (7G43)
Physical RAM 512 MB
Model PowerBook5,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.50 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK8026GAX
CPU Test 180.50
GCD Loop 175.85 6.87 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 179.89 650.55 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 184.58 5.36 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 180.52 2.80 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 181.89 7.28 Mops/sec
Thread Test 132.86
Computation 95.48 1.29 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 218.34 2.74 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 149.65
System 155.90
Allocate 929.51 606.32 Kalloc/sec
Fill 147.21 1171.79 MB/sec
Copy 87.92 439.60 MB/sec
Stream 143.89
Copy 144.01 1052.70 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 140.83 1039.34 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 145.65 932.15 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 145.17 886.97 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 184.86
Line 142.41 3.63 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 162.86 11.46 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 172.82 3.98 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 184.88 2.01 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 371.85 6.06 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 118.69
Spinning Squares 118.69 83.06 frames/sec
User Interface Test 231.28
Elements 231.28 74.39 refresh/sec
Disk Test 76.60
Sequential 91.58
Uncached Write 80.75 33.66 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 70.95 29.05 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 201.74 31.94 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 81.66 33.00 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 65.83
Uncached Write 52.41 0.79 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 65.95 14.87 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 71.09 0.47 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 80.30 16.53 MB/sec [256K blocks]
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Jun 27, 2004, 09:38 PM
 
thanks for all the numbers guys!

now I'm just trying to figure out how to read them
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Jun 27, 2004, 11:17 PM
 
If you don't check all tasks before running Xbench you will get an invalidly higher score.

Here is the score for my brand new (at no additional cost to me) 1.5 Ghz 17" that I swapped out with Apple because they could not fix the old 1 Ghz screen display after 3 tries:

Results 126.16
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.4 (7H63)
Physical RAM 512 MB
Model PowerBook5,5
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.50 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type Hitachi IC25N080ATMR04-0
CPU Test 182.34
GCD Loop 180.83 7.06 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 185.97 672.55 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 184.21 5.35 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 187.21 2.91 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 174.10 6.97 Mops/sec
Thread Test 132.73
Computation 95.50 1.29 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 217.53 2.73 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 129.94
System 145.98
Allocate 970.70 633.19 Kalloc/sec
Fill 158.97 1265.43 MB/sec
Copy 75.58 377.92 MB/sec
Stream 117.08
Copy 110.08 804.67 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 120.51 889.34 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 122.26 782.46 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 116.23 710.16 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 177.83
Line 140.56 3.58 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 160.30 11.28 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 169.52 3.91 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 180.87 1.97 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 299.81 4.89 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 113.43
Spinning Squares 113.43 79.38 frames/sec
User Interface Test 229.65
Elements 229.65 73.87 refresh/sec
Disk Test 62.59
Sequential 79.71
Uncached Write 79.28 33.05 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 61.26 25.09 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 164.08 25.97 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 65.99 26.66 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 51.52
Uncached Write 42.74 0.64 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 52.45 11.83 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 52.61 0.35 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 61.85 12.73 MB/sec [256K blocks]
     
   
 
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