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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Jesus could be the Democratic candidate, and to a Republican, Trump is a better alternative.

This is how the tribalism game is played.
At least they'd admit he was a bleeding heart liberal. Though the antisemitism would be painful.
     
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Jun 30, 2017, 12:26 PM
 
That long-haired hippie isn't a Christian -- he's not married, wears dresses, and is probably gay.
     
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Ha!
     
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Heh allegedly Kush is the one who relayed the message that kissing the ring would get the story spiked.
     
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Jun 30, 2017, 01:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
Perhaps your methodology and sources are at fault? I didn't know newsweek still existed.


We know, dear. You've said.

Yet, you do not seem to defend Trump's antics beyond "haha not hillary." Do you really think this creature is seriously doing a good job as president? Do you think he's respecting the office? Do you think he is garnering respect for the US with his behavior? Do you think we'll be better off in 4 years?

Or are you just hoping to see the world burn?
I will NOT defend his immaturity. I blame the LWMSM for continuing to be asses and liars and going on with all the false narratives and propaganda. RESPECTING THE OFFICE? You mean like having sex with the intern in the Oval office? Most of your concerns are because you believe in the false narratives, and you don't seem to be paying attention to just how full of shit the MSM has been. I do think we will be marginally better in 4 years.
     
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Oh no! Sex!
     
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Jun 30, 2017, 02:54 PM
 
Let's say Bill Clinton shot someone in the Oval Office. With a load... ed gun.

Trump gets to do what then?
     
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Shoot someone in the Oval Office while having sex
     
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Jun 30, 2017, 05:17 PM
 
I think you mean the bigscreen in Times Square

Sorry, Trump Square
     
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Jun 30, 2017, 05:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Jesus could be the Democratic candidate, and to a Republican, Trump is a better alternative.

This is how the tribalism game is played.
If alive, Jesus wouldn't be a Dem, he'd never be pro-choice. By the same token, he'd never be a Repub because of the death penalty. Likely he'd be classical libertarian, if anything.

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That long-haired hippie isn't a Christian -- he's not married, wears dresses, and is probably gay.
Your perception of mainstream Christianity is ~20 years out of date.
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
I think you mean the bigscreen in Times Square

Sorry, Trump Square
You missed the reference, andi
     
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Latest conspiracy theory...

Joe: Our ratings have dropped off.
Mika: We need something to get relevant again.
Donald: Consider the problem solved, and it won't even take me 300 characters.
     
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I heard that this evening too. Well played, well played.
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The "apology" tweet:



Also, LOL...



I'm sure he and Trudeau have really hit it off.
     
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On the "Jesus would be ________" topic, I'm pretty sure the whole "render unto Caesar" passage...

Matthew 22:20-22
And Jesus said to them, “Whose likeness and inscription is this?” They said, “Caesar's.” Then he said to them, “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.” When they heard it, they marveled. And they left him and went away.
...means that He would find our entire political system to be man-made foolishness. I can't imagine Him endorsing any of them. They are the closest thing we have to modern-day Pharisees.
     
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
On the "Jesus would be ________" topic, I'm pretty sure the whole "render unto Caesar" passage...



...means that He would find our entire political system to be man-made foolishness. I can't imagine Him endorsing any of them. They are the closest thing we have to modern-day Pharisees.
That misses the point of the comment, but I understand being defensive of interpretation of your god.
     
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Latest conspiracy theory...

Joe: Our ratings have dropped off.
Mika: We need something to get relevant again.
Donald: Consider the problem solved, and it won't even take me 300 characters.
If that's true, that would mean NBC brass is in on it since they claim to have evidence. That'd be an earth shaking revelation if NBC were colluding with Trump for ratings, wouldn't it? (Also Jeff Zucker would wonder what he could have done to be the one to collude with Trump)
     
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Shit, Buzz is looking old.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
If that's true, that would mean NBC brass is in on it since they claim to have evidence. That'd be an earth shaking revelation if NBC were colluding with Trump for ratings, wouldn't it? (Also Jeff Zucker would wonder what he could have done to be the one to collude with Trump)
Evidence of what?

(Honest question, not a challenge)
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post


Shit, Buzz is looking old.
The duo in back are a trip.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
That misses the point of the comment, but I understand being defensive of interpretation of your god.
No, I understood the point of the comment. I didn't feel particularly defensive, especially since it's you guys.

I'm just drawn to asides, and there's no other outlet for me to express this, as most people in my world believe that Jesus would be a featured speaker at the Republican National Convention every four years.
     
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I thought the whole point of being a Republican was you get to be like the Romans.
     
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Jul 1, 2017, 08:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Evidence of what?

(Honest question, not a challenge)
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There are claims of black mail that Trump has seemingly confirmed.

To cut to the chase, though, if Scarborough has the receipts he should publish them immediately. Not doing so is a disservice to the people who should know. If he doesn't make them public I'm left to assume he was bluffing like Trump with Comey or he's trying to protect Trump still.

Best comment so far is Joe saying this is not the Trump he knows. ****ing imbeciles.
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Yup MSNBC says they're withholding the memos. What a load of crap.
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
On the "Jesus would be ________" topic, I'm pretty sure the whole "render unto Caesar" passage...



...means that He would find our entire political system to be man-made foolishness. I can't imagine Him endorsing any of them. They are the closest thing we have to modern-day Pharisees.
Exactly, both of our major parties would turn his stomach.
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JC would have voted for Hillary.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Bzzzzzt.

The answer is "Berniebro".
     
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Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
JC would have voted for Hillary.
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Maybe JC would have gone with a write-in vote, writing in himself?

I'm sure JC would like the Clinton Global Initiative though.
     
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Jawbone and Snow-i (if you're monitoring this thread), I have a question for you, if you don't mind...

If you could choose between Obama or Trump being the US president, who would you choose?
     
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Oooh... I like this game!

Trump, Millard Fillmore, or Kennedy with advanced syphilis?
     
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Oooh... I like this game!

Trump, Millard Fillmore, or Kennedy with advanced syphilis?
Or Jesus?
     
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Meanwhile, LWMSM collective heads explode after latest tweet.

45/47
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Maybe JC would have gone with a write-in vote, writing in himself?

I'm sure JC would like the Clinton Global Initiative though.
This pretty much sums it up.
45/47
     
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This pretty much sums it up.

Do you really want to open up the can of worms of old testament God/Jesus vs. new testament? Old testament God/Jesus was ****ing goofy.
     
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Meanwhile, LWMSM collective heads explode after latest tweet.


As well they should.

Are you seriously comfortable with the president's focus being here?
     
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Or Jesus?
Was born in Kenya.
     
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Meanwhile, LWMSM collective heads explode after latest tweet.

Presidential.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Oooh... I like this game!

Trump, Millard Fillmore, or Kennedy with advanced syphilis?
So, now we know why JFK's brain went missing.
45/47
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Presidential.
Modern Day Presidential.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Jawbone and Snow-i (if you're monitoring this thread), I have a question for you, if you don't mind...

If you could choose between Obama or Trump being the US president, who would you choose?
It's hard to project tone in a forum post, so don't misinterpret my intentions — I don't mean to sound snarky, but the purpose of such a question feels loaded, even if you didn't mean it that way. I don't consider myself to be ducking the question by saying, "Neither."

I have/had serious disagreements with both men.
- I disagree with Trump's behavior, and I think he's mostly void of integrity. Since I'm not sure about his motivations, I have trouble trusting his policymaking. As far as I can tell, he's done little (if anything) to build any relationships with anyone outside of his camp. I'm worried he's recklessly destroying the conservative movement.
- I disagreed with most of Obama's policies, especially in regards to the economy. I think it's ironic that his response to difficult circumstances seemed to do more harm to race relations than anyone could have expected. He's likable, and I do believe that Obama has integrity, but it's formed by a worldview that doesn't coincide with my own.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Do you really want to open up the can of worms of old testament God/Jesus vs. new testament? Old testament God/Jesus was ****ing goofy.
He's not talking about the Old Testament, Jesus wasn't in the Old Testament, FYI. "Biblical Jesus" is the one from the actual Bible, Postmodern "hippie" Jesus is an ignorant new-age interpretation.
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It's hard to project tone in a forum post, so don't misinterpret my intentions — I don't mean to sound snarky, but the purpose of such a question feels loaded, even if you didn't mean it that way. I don't consider myself to be ducking the question by saying, "Neither."

I have/had serious disagreements with both men.
- I disagree with Trump's behavior, and I think he's mostly void of integrity. Since I'm not sure about his motivations, I have trouble trusting his policymaking. As far as I can tell, he's done little (if anything) to build any relationships with anyone outside of his camp. I'm worried he's recklessly destroying the conservative movement.
- I disagreed with most of Obama's policies, especially in regards to the economy. I think it's ironic that his response to difficult circumstances seemed to do more harm to race relations than anyone could have expected. He's likable, and I do believe that Obama has integrity, but it's formed by a worldview that doesn't coincide with my own.

Thanks for this answer, Jawbone, it seems fair and reasonable and definitely appreciated.

May I press a little further? I understand how one might disagree with Obama's policies, but at the end of the day not a ton changed from them, no? He moved the needle a little, but would you agree that this was a far cry from the sort of "radical transformation" rhetoric we heard coming from the right? I was always puzzled that a certain population mocked his whole "change" thing claiming that little had changed, and another was going on about this radical transformation of America thing. Would you agree that the latter was at least a little overblown at times?

I would assume you'd agree that the most radical transformation was the ACA, but would you also agree that despite its many flaws it was an improvement over what existed prior (particularly in the area of patient protections), and is better than what is being proposed now?

If your issues are mostly with what Obama would have liked to have done without any obstruction, that makes sense, but then I guess to return to my original question, is mostly status quo/slight needle moving better than Trump chaos at this point?

I'm just having a hard time understanding how anybody would say that we are better off now.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Jawbone and Snow-i (if you're monitoring this thread), I have a question for you, if you don't mind...

If you could choose between Obama or Trump being the US president, who would you choose?
     
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Aaaaand they're off!
45/47
     
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Daily Wire reporting that CNN even blackmailed the wrong guy.

Not only did they breach all tenets of journalism here, they did it to the wrong guy
     
 
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