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Gossamer
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Apr 11, 2007, 12:18 PM
 
So I just found out last week that I know this guy's grandson...in fact he's in my small group at church. He's a smart kid but he's a bit distracting and craves attention. It sounds like he's been through a lot of problems in his life, and I'm sure this is no help. He's currently living with relatives here in Iowa.

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Apr 11, 2007, 12:25 PM
 
Start randomly firing a cap gun off when he's around.
     
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Apr 11, 2007, 12:28 PM
 
I have about 30,000 rounds.
And the assault rifle is only illegal in Kali. Or it's configuration is.
And I never knew you had to have a permit to posess a certain quantity of powder.
Maybe in Kali.
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Apr 11, 2007, 12:29 PM
 
That's Klever.
     
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Apr 11, 2007, 12:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sky Captain View Post
I have about 30,000 rounds.
Why?
     
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Apr 11, 2007, 12:43 PM
 
In case 30,000 people ever piss him off.

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Apr 11, 2007, 12:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar² View Post
That's Klever.


Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
In case 30,000 people ever piss him off.
Of course!
     
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Apr 11, 2007, 12:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
In case 30,000 people ever piss him off.
He must be a really good shot. 100% accuracy!
     
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Apr 11, 2007, 12:55 PM
 
Why not?
It cheaper to buy it in bulk.
$5/20 rounds .223 VS $2/20 rounds.
Huge savings on target cartridges.
And I reload my cowboy revolver cartridged.
And I load my own competition cartridges. They're much more accurate.
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Apr 11, 2007, 01:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by Eug View Post
He must be a really good shot. 100% accuracy!
That's what I was thinking.

I'd probably use that much just tuning my sights in.
     
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Apr 11, 2007, 01:42 PM
 
I read about this guy, and it looks like the Great State of California managed to miss someone who desperately needed attention from a mental health professional. Other sources provided more information, and the reported "million" rounds is probably a vast exageration; the number seems to have come from some TV reporter seeing more than a few boxes of ammunition. Further, ammunition does not "explode" in a fire; it pops, rather harmlessly, though quite loudly. Not good for firefighters to be close to but not really dangerous.

The "machine used to load gunpowder into empty casings" could be either a powder measure or a reloading press-it's hard to tell from the extremely pejorative way the story was worded. Not illegal at all; it's a productive hobby that tends to provide focus and gives us "attention to detail" junkies something to do.

The real issue is that 75 pounds of "gunpowder." Was it really gunpowder (also known as "black powder") or was it smokeless powder for reloading? Black powder can be dangerous if contained and exposed to fire, but smokeless burns - very fast and very hot, but it just burns.

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Apr 11, 2007, 02:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sky Captain View Post
Why not?
It cheaper to buy it in bulk.
$5/20 rounds .223 VS $2/20 rounds.
Huge savings on target cartridges.
And I reload my cowboy revolver cartridged.
And I load my own competition cartridges. They're much more accurate.
Yes of course, but there's bulk and then there's bulk. How long does it take you to go through 30000 rounds?
     
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Apr 11, 2007, 02:22 PM
 
Eh, 2 years?
Here lately I haven't had the time to go to the range.
And when I go I bring a guest.
We'll go through 300 or so rounds.
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Apr 11, 2007, 02:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sky Captain View Post
Eh, 2 years?
Here lately I haven't had the time to go to the range.
And when I go I bring a guest.
We'll go through 300 or so rounds.
I suppose that's in
the neighborhood of once a week
which doesn't seem that unreasonable.
     
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Apr 11, 2007, 02:47 PM
 
But I keep mine in a firesafe.
And my firearms are in a seperate safe.
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Apr 11, 2007, 02:48 PM
 
And, of course, you keep yourself in a third safe.
     
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Apr 11, 2007, 03:58 PM
 
Thanks Dakar.
I have not laughed so hard.
In a long time.
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Apr 11, 2007, 04:00 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar² View Post
And, of course, you keep yourself in a third safe.
Why was that sentence
only on one line?
     
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Apr 11, 2007, 07:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sky Captain View Post
Eh, 2 years?
Here lately I haven't had the time to go to the range.
And when I go I bring a guest.
We'll go through 300 or so rounds.
Easily go through 1,000 rounds (total) per day at the range for 2-3 people, and 3-4 different weapons. Not anymore, but we used to hit the range 2x per month. That's the math.
     
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Apr 12, 2007, 09:01 AM
 
I can easily burn through 500 rounds of .45 long colt at a cowboy action shoot.

Reloading keeps the cost of the bullets down from .20¢ to .08¢ a cartridge.

I keep 20# or more of smokeless gunpowder on hand at any given time, and there are many different varieties of smokeless powders for a given application. There's ball powder, flake powder and stick type powder all made with nitrocellulose and nitroglycerine.

I also will have a couple thousand lead bullets on hand for the reloader.
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Apr 12, 2007, 10:06 AM
 
Originally Posted by Mark Larr View Post
I can easily burn through 500 rounds of .45 long colt at a cowboy action shoot.

Reloading keeps the cost of the bullets down from .20¢ to .08¢ a cartridge.

I keep 20# or more of smokeless gunpowder on hand at any given time, and there are many different varieties of smokeless powders for a given application. There's ball powder, flake powder and stick type powder all made with nitrocellulose and nitroglycerine.

I also will have a couple thousand lead bullets on hand for the reloader.
.20¢ huh?
     
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Apr 12, 2007, 12:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
.20¢ huh?
CHEAP!!!
     
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Apr 12, 2007, 12:21 PM
 
I think some of those prices are a bit out of date. Cost for bullets and reloading components are a bit higher right now.
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Apr 12, 2007, 12:25 PM
 
I paid $24/50 45LC when I was out. But I needed new brass to reload anyway.
If prices of .223 ball ammo continues to rise, I may start reloading that also.
My wife can burn through 200 rounds of .45 in no time also, I need to start reloading for that one too.
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Apr 12, 2007, 02:03 PM
 
A box of 500 lead cast pre-lubed .45/452dia bullets cast $13.00.

1000 primers are $17.00

A pound of smokless powder is $19.00 and will make 1000 bullets.

So effectively I can make 1000 bullets for less than buying 150 pre-loaded if I have my brass.

If I have to buy brass for some reason, the casings are $20 a hundred.
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Apr 12, 2007, 06:36 PM
 
...now if I could just find a source for 5.7mm casings I'd be happy. The tooling is available but its a REAL pain to try and pick up those casings on the range. At 19 to $25 per 50 it'd be a decent savings I think.
     
   
 
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