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MindFad · Jul 26, 2005, 03:53 PM

http://apple.com

Hot damn, they are really tempting. I wish I weren't so damn poor!

512MB, Bluetooth and Airport? Nice.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Jul 26, 2005, 03:53 PM

Makes the 12" powerbook rather worthless.

euphras · Jul 26, 2005, 03:56 PM

timeline anybody?

MindFad · Jul 26, 2005, 03:59 PM

I scanned the Lounge quickly and didn't see a thread. Apparently I missed it.

Edit: I still don't see another thread.

Superchicken · Jul 26, 2005, 03:59 PM

I'm just glad these popped up now, I had a few potential switchers waiting in the wings... now they should be hoping on these

And I was considering buying one for a friend...

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Jul 26, 2005, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by MindFad

I scanned the Lounge quickly and didn't see a thread. Apparently I missed it.

Edit: I still don't see another thread.

I think it is because you posted it 6 hours after the fact. You criminal you.

Luca Rescigno · Jul 26, 2005, 04:07 PM

OMG ROOFLEZ WELCUM 2 LAST HALF DAY LOLZ

historylme · Jul 26, 2005, 04:09 PM

Mine is the mail.

ManOfSteal · Jul 26, 2005, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by MindFad

Edit: I still don't see another thread.

Were you scanning for " New iBook" or "OMG!!! Apple Store Down!!!1!!! Roxxors!!!"...the latter always prevails.

MindFad · Jul 26, 2005, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

I think it is because you posted it 6 hours after the fact. You criminal you.

Dang, really? 6 hours? Ah well. I just noticed, anyway. I'd been checking all day, too. I swear I checked earlier than 6 hours ago!

But seriously, I'm Jonesin' for an iBook, now. They have great specs. As much as I want to wait for an Intel iBook, this is a sweet deal for only $999 (and even better with employee discount). Yummy.

How does the Radeon 9550 perform anyway? Too bad they're skimping on the VRAM, but I doubt anyone's looking—especially not me—to game on an iBook.

Originally Posted by ManOfSteal

Were you scanning for " New iBook" or "OMG!!! Apple Store Down!!!1!!! Roxxors!!!"...the latter always prevails.

Of course. Finding neither, I felt compelled to start an 'NN thread.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Jul 26, 2005, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by MindFad

Dang, really? 6 hours? Ah well. I just noticed, anyway. I'd been checking all day, too. I swear I checked earlier than 6 hours ago!

But seriously, I'm Jonesin' for an iBook, now. They have great specs. As much as I want to wait for an Intel iBook, this is a sweet deal for only $999 (and even better with employee discount). Yummy.

How does the Radeon 9550 perform anyway? Too bad they're skimping on the VRAM, but I doubt anyone's looking—especially not me—to game on an iBook.

Of course. Finding neither, I felt compelled to start an 'NN thread.

You'' find it next to impossible to do any print or 3d work comfortably on a 1024 screen. I have an iBook and I can't use it for anything other than surfing.

Luca Rescigno · Jul 26, 2005, 04:18 PM

9550 = great card, supports Core Image
32 MB VRAM = even UT '99 and Quake 3 are going to be held back on this machine

RAILhead · Jul 26, 2005, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by MindFad

I scanned the Lounge quickly and didn't see a thread. Apparently I missed it.

Edit: I still don't see another thread.

Maybe because we already have a forum for this topic? The iBook Forum?

/not being an arse, just can't believe no one pointed it out yet...

driven · Jul 26, 2005, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Luca Rescigno

9550 = great card, supports Core Image
32 MB VRAM = even UT '99 and Quake 3 are going to be held back on this machine

Yeah, about the only negative I see to this is the limited video ram.

MindFad · 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by RAILhead

Maybe because we already have a forum for this topic? The iBook Forum?

/not being an arse, just can't believe no one pointed it out yet...

The Lounge has always been everything goes. I would think this forum gets a lot more traffic than the iBook one, too. People are always shootin' the **** about Apple stuff here anyway. If it's that big a deal that yet another thread about a new Apple product was started in—gasp—the Lounge, then the mods can always move or lock it.

9550 supports CoreImage? Sweet. And I wouldn't do anything too heavy on the iBook. Mostly browsing, e-mail, light Photoshop work, and movie-watching. I mostly would like it for the mobility.

And dang, the Mac minis were updated, too! Go, Apple!

andreas_g4 · Jul 26, 2005, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by MindFad

I wish I weren't so damn poor!

/wait: Just checked my bank acct. ME TOO!

FulcrumPilot · Jul 26, 2005, 06:28 PM

Just ordered none.

Agasthya · Jul 26, 2005, 06:37 PM

Weak update.

Superchicken · Jul 26, 2005, 08:34 PM

Not anything that I wasn't expecting... though the new scrolling options are great, and the motion sensor for the HD is great too! As well, it's a fine lappy to hook up to an external CRT.

driven · Jul 26, 2005, 08:47 PM

I am thinking of picking one up for the wife-unit. it's tax free day in Atlanta this weekend.

The Godfather · Jul 26, 2005, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by MindFad

http://apple.com

Hot damn, they are really tempting. I wish I weren't so damn poor!

512MB, Bluetooth and Airport? Nice.

No. You must wait for the Pentium M iBook. It won't be long.

Salty · Jul 26, 2005, 09:07 PM

I'd rather have this than a first draft Pentium M.

paul w · Jul 26, 2005, 11:02 PM

Nice...but sadly none of that wide screen that had been hinted at.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Jul 26, 2005, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Agasthya

Weak update.

No the 12" powerbook is what is weak in comparison.

MindFad · Jul 26, 2005, 11:04 PM

Widescreen would've indeed been very cool. I'm contemplating applying for an Apple Credit account tomorrow to see if I can get enough money towards the iBook to pick one up tomorrow at work. Decisions, decisions....

Salty · Jul 26, 2005, 11:05 PM

The wide screen has been rumoured for so long... I think it's a load of crap.

ManOfSteal · Jul 27, 2005, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by MindFad

Widescreen would've indeed been very cool. I'm contemplating applying for an Apple Credit account tomorrow to see if I can get enough money towards the iBook to pick one up tomorrow at work. Decisions, decisions....

What did you decide? Pick one up?

Eug Wanker · Jul 27, 2005, 10:18 PM

Just Do It™

Kerrigan · Jul 27, 2005, 11:04 PM

Overall I would say that all of Apple's laptops are a bit weak right now. Like SWF mentioned above, the 12" PB is rather bad value for the money, when compared with the new iBook offering.

Apple's laptops are way too dated for me to consider them seriously. They get WAY too hot around the power plug, the screens are quite dim compared with PC notebooks, and the G4 is well past its prime.

Obviously I've got a PB so I'm familiar with all of these problems. For web-surfing and word processing it is fine, but whenever you start using iTunes or iPhoto, the fan turns on full blast, the battery drains itself out, and it becomes unpleasant to use. When Apple starts making Intel-based notebooks, I have no doubt that they will be the best on the market. But right now, I'll pass.

lavar78 · Jul 27, 2005, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

the screens are quite dim compared with PC notebooks

If the screen on my 15" Al PB were any brighter, it might blind me.

Kerrigan · Jul 27, 2005, 11:15 PM

Are you sure about that? I've got the same type of PB as you, and I've seen much brighter screens on PC notebooks, especially the Sony Vaio.

lavar78 · Jul 28, 2005, 12:07 AM

Let me rephrase that. I am more than happy with the brightness of my PB. I haven't seen many PC notebooks.

driven · Jul 28, 2005, 12:09 AM

I recently shopped around for notebooks. I'd much prefer the display on my PB to anything that sony offers. (Especially if I work anywhere that there is an overhead light). <-- glare factor.

im_noahselby · Jul 28, 2005, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by MindFad

How does the Radeon 9550 perform anyway? Too bad they're skimping on the VRAM, but I doubt anyone's looking—especially not me—to game on an iBook.

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=264433

I had the same question and got a few responses in this thread. If anyone would like to add to it, go right ahead.

On a side note, I can't wait to see what video card Apple puts in the next 12" PB's. It would be nice of them to bump them up to 128MB in the next round. It's unlikely, I know, but wouldn't it be nice...

Noah

MindFad · Jul 28, 2005, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by ManOfSteal

What did you decide? Pick one up?

I pretty much convinced myself that it was the best idea in the world to get one, but we didn't get any in today—only the new 14"ers.

Have to save up a few more paychecks first, but I will probably end up getting one. Bills willing.

Salty · Jul 28, 2005, 02:35 AM

I have a friend from school asking me about these... I just wrote a very long helpful e-mail back. I also have a friend from high school who will be going to school in germany and she'll be getting a 12 inch. They both like the free iPod minis that come with

alphasubzero949 · Jul 28, 2005, 04:34 AM

Waiting for the Intel release.

Athens · Jul 28, 2005, 05:15 AM

IM GETTING A 14" IBOOK HOT DAM they just got really good.

Jul 28, 2005, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Are you sure about that? I've got the same type of PB as you, and I've seen much shinier (for no good reason) screens on PC notebooks, especially the Sony Vaio.

Fixed™

DeathMan · Jul 28, 2005, 06:54 PM

are they not doing the free ipod promotion anymore?

ah, found it. its a student thing. 4 gb ipod

Eug Wanker · Jul 28, 2005, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Are you sure about that? I've got the same type of PB as you, and I've seen much brighter screens on PC notebooks, especially the Sony Vaio.

Originally Posted by hayesk

-- comment about shininess --

Fixed™

I think Kerrigan is correct actually. The previous iBook was a bit weak on the contrast and and brightness IMO. Same goes for the current PowerBook 12".

OTOH, the 15" and 17" are quite bright and contrasty IMO, and initial reports are that the 12" iBook now sports a stronger backlight than the previous model. Not sure if that's true cuz I don't have mine yet, but here's hoping...

As for the shininess in some PC laptop screens, it does seem to make the colours "pop", but I too hate them. Glare up the yinyang. I will never buy one of those machines if I can help it.

In the meantime, it seems my iBook sat around all day at the FedEx depot in China for some reason.

DeathMan · Jul 28, 2005, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

In the meantime, it seems my iBook sat around all day at the FedEx depot in China for some reason.

Maybe they ship out between 10 and 11pm, and yours just barely missed the shipment?

I also dislike the glare. Its nice for a second, and good for sellability, but I would quickly tire of the glare.

TiggerToo · Jul 28, 2005, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Overall I would say that all of Apple's laptops are a bit weak right now. Like SWF mentioned above, the 12" PB is rather bad value for the money, when compared with the new iBook offering.

Apple's laptops are way too dated for me to consider them seriously. They get WAY too hot around the power plug, the screens are quite dim compared with PC notebooks, and the G4 is well past its prime.

Obviously I've got a PB so I'm familiar with all of these problems. For web-surfing and word processing it is fine, but whenever you start using iTunes or iPhoto, the fan turns on full blast, the battery drains itself out, and it becomes unpleasant to use. When Apple starts making Intel-based notebooks, I have no doubt that they will be the best on the market. But right now, I'll pass.

nowt wrong with PB's so you can get orff my land! silly boy, we use one for Motion projects, yes, yes, sit down at the back and shush, does the job just fine. trouble is, these days you kids are just spoiled.

driven · Jul 28, 2005, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by TiggerToo

nowt wrong with PB's so you can get orff my land! silly boy, we use one for Motion projects, yes, yes, sit down at the back and shush, does the job just fine. trouble is, these days you kids are just spoiled.

I had a student in my class complain that his PC was "outdated". (It was 6 months old). Amazing.