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OwlBoy · Apr 17, 2004, 08:10 PM

AAARHRHHRGRGG!!

I am so fricken frustrated!

When ever I try to save an image for use on the web I have color problems...

Say I try and save a gif ("Save for web"), the resulting image does not have the proper colors... they are not as vivid or the right shades...

I never use to have this problem in the past...

Is there a colorsync option I have set wrong?

I have tryed using the proof menu, to show monitor RGB (what it ends up looking at) but if I select a color I want in the colorpalett it comes out wrong when used!!!

What the hell is going on!? I have changed every setting I can think of but nothing seems to work.

This is on my Powerbook, while my iMac seems to produce things properly...

What are the things I should "fix" or make sure they are not set wrong?

-Owl

godzookie2k · Apr 20, 2004, 01:17 AM

is it just images, or are html specified colors not showing up right either? is everything showing up incorrectly proportionately?

Thorzdad · Apr 21, 2004, 02:08 PM

I'm a little confused, so please forgive me if I've totally missed the point...
Are you saving photos as GIFs?
When you save an image as a GIF, the color pallette gets reduced to the basic 256. A GIF is an indexed color format. This is what is causing the color shifts you see. Photos for the web should always be JPEGs.

NYCFarmboy · Apr 21, 2004, 10:44 PM

Are you using Photoshop?

"Saving for the web" on photoshop saves the files in the Microsoft color gamma & saturation which is different from Macs.

For important web photos I always just do a "save as" instead of Save For Web.

I usually save at the '8' setting in terms of image quality.

But that only applies to Photoshop..not sure what program you are using.

Oh..and yes..save as a jpg file ... not gif unless its just a graphic with text or something limited in color range.

OwlBoy · Apr 22, 2004, 07:43 PM

Oh, sorry, I assumed Photoshop

Not remembering it is not the only app out there

So Save for web adjusts the gamma? Hmm...

No I am not saving Photos as Gifs... I am talking graphic items.

But jpeg does the same thing, though I can embed the ICC profile, and then if the browser supports it, it shows the colors fine...

-Owl

NYCFarmboy · Apr 22, 2004, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by OwlBoy:
Oh, sorry, I assumed Photoshop Not remembering it is not the only app out there

So Save for web adjusts the gamma? Hmm...

No I am not saving Photos as Gifs... I am talking graphic items.

But jpeg does the same thing, though I can embed the ICC profile, and then if the browser supports it, it shows the colors fine...

-Owl

Somewhere in your photoshop "save for web" preferences it is converting your graphics including gif files to the Microsoft gamma.

At one time in Photoshop 6 I was able to locate that setting and change it so that the "safe for web" would use the Apple color gamma/standard.

However I can't find that setting on 7, so just gave up and do the "Save As".

Gamma may be the wrong word..it is color temperature combined with brightness/contrast. Microsoft has a different standard than Apple....Adobe decided that the world views webpages in the Microsoft standard (and this is mostly true), so the "save for web" reflected that judgement on their part.

However that gives Mac users/web viewers a less beautiful world to look at webwise.

OwlBoy · Apr 24, 2004, 08:00 PM

Ok. Thanks for the info I was totally confused

-Owl

zubro · Apr 26, 2004, 05:52 PM

for jpegs my trick is to save them in 12 and then to give them to "SmallImage"
http://www.iconus.ch/fabien/english/smallimage.html
A GREAT piece of freeware that will eat sometimes more than 50% of your file!
But it does not work so grest on small files ...
give it a shot, I love it! :o)

buddhabelly · Apr 27, 2004, 02:13 AM

Originally posted by zubro:
for jpegs my trick is to save them in 12 and then to give them to "SmallImage"
http://www.iconus.ch/fabien/english/smallimage.html
A GREAT piece of freeware that will eat sometimes more than 50% of your file!
But it does not work so grest on small files ...
give it a shot, I love it! :o)

If I'm dual purposing images, I'll add a curve layer and adjust color using the macintosh rgb, windows rgb and monitor rgb proof setups. I try to find a happy medium. This is using Photoshop CS. This will turn off your current color space (in my case Adobe RGB) and you can proof the colors in these other spaces.