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coolmac · Oct 24, 2002, 03:25 PM

Here's the link:
http://www.cnet.com/techtrends/0-601...html?tag=ldgif

Just two problems, the Powerbook still looks better, and the Powerbook runs OS X.

Imagine Porsche & Best Buy going after Apple, nice compliment huh?

jhunt5247 · Oct 24, 2002, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by coolmac:
Here's the link:
http://www.cnet.com/techtrends/0-601...html?tag=ldgif

Just two problems, the Powerbook still looks better, and the Powerbook runs OS X.

Imagine Porsche & Best Buy going after Apple, nice compliment huh?

Oh for a minute there, I thought you meant Jamie Porsche. I am sure she runs a lot better than OS/X

http://www.apple.com/switch/ads/janieporche.html

jhunt5247 · Oct 24, 2002, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by coolmac:
Here's the link:
http://www.cnet.com/techtrends/0-601...html?tag=ldgif

Just two problems, the Powerbook still looks better, and the Powerbook runs OS X.

Imagine Porsche & Best Buy going after Apple, nice compliment huh?

Yeah, no doubt. Powerbook looks a lot better. Even though, no matter what it looked like, unless it has OS/X on it, I am not interested.

El Pre$idente · Oct 24, 2002, 04:19 PM

I'd expect better design than that from Porsche! It looks a bit basic. Specs are way better than the TiBook though (don't know what graphics chip it has though).

Commodus · Oct 24, 2002, 05:22 PM

Actually, the design of this notebook is pretty much in line with what Porsche Design did for Samsung's 171P 17" LCD display: very clean lines, silver with a bit of black. You'd almost get the impression that Porsche Design was hoping to become the Apple of the x86 world!

RMXO · Oct 24, 2002, 06:17 PM

video depends on model. there are 3 models. the higest model uses a GF4 420 go w/ 32 mb.

daym thats nice.

http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=...t=494&scat=495

gyc · Oct 25, 2002, 01:44 AM

No one's mentioned it yet, but there's still one huge flaw with this laptop (besides the fact it uses an Intel chip). It's 6.4 lbs!!! That's freakin' heavy!

FlashGordon · Oct 25, 2002, 02:00 AM

realize that Porche the article is referring to is not the car company, but the designer is related to the car company family.

RMXO · Oct 25, 2002, 04:44 AM

the only thing i like about it is its 1.2" thick & the video card. i would trade my ATI 7500 for a GF4 420 Go chipset any day. guess i have always been a GF fan.

usb 2 & firwire does make it tempting but the color for the keyboard is just a turn off. guess they didnt want to copy too much of the PB.

asmujica · Oct 25, 2002, 08:23 AM

I hope apple lowers the powerbook price......

sleepyrenderer · Oct 25, 2002, 11:00 AM

Some more piccy's:

According to here:
http://www.vprmatrix.com/products_notebook_200A5.asp
it weighs 6.4lbs, so one more than the TiBook.

euphras · 12:37 PM

I think when they�re following up on Apple regarding some design elements (e. g. the wide screen aspect, the minimalistic design), it�s pretty much a complement. The one pound more ( ouhh, when will you ever use metric units

) is certainly due to the magnesium casing, one more hint that the Tibook casing is still the leading edge of notebook design (even if there are minor flaws like paint chipping in some badges). To my knowledge it�s also the first Wintel notebook that�s sporting the slot-in drive. But look at the rest: VGA out, 10/100 MBit Ethernet,..... The Ti is still standing strong.

Pat

jchen · Oct 25, 2002, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by RMXO:
i would trade my ATI 7500 for a GF4 420 Go chipset any day. guess i have always been a GF fan.

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.html?i=1642&p=9

As you can see, the Radeon 7500 Mobility is really only about 5-10% slower than a Geforce 4 Go 440. The GF4 440 Go runs 128bit DDR whereas the GF420 operates on 64bit DDR. Therefore, with the 420, you have basically half the memory bandwith which as you can probably see, will be significantly slower.

Therefore, there really wouldn't be a point in trading if you had the option.

RMXO · Oct 25, 2002, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by jchen:

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.html?i=1642&p=9

As you can see, the Radeon 7500 Mobility is really only about 5-10% slower than a Geforce 4 Go 440. The GF4 440 Go runs 128bit DDR whereas the GF420 operates on 64bit DDR. Therefore, with the 420, you have basically half the memory bandwith which as you can probably see, will be significantly slower.

Therefore, there really wouldn't be a point in trading if you had the option.

didnt know the exact specs. like i said, guess im a GF fan. ehehe. thanks for the specs.

Eug · Oct 25, 2002, 02:04 PM

Hmmmmm... My guess is that both Firewire ports are of the 4-pin variety. If that is true, then it would be a big drawback IMO. However, I can't find the spec anywhere, except that there are 2 Firewire ports.

I'd rather have 1 6-pin port than 2 4-pin ports.

The look is OK, but not great. The weight of 6.4 lbs is so-so.

The specs otherwise are great, for the price though.

As for the video, I'd probably prefer having ATI. I may be biased by previous versions of nVidia stuff though. A couple of years back on PC laptops, the ATI drivers were WAY better than the nVidia ones. Dunno about the last year though.

RMXO · Oct 25, 2002, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Eug:
Hmmmmm... My guess is that both Firewire ports are of the 4-pin variety. If that is true, then it would be a big drawback IMO. However, I can't find the spec anywhere, except that there are 2 Firewire ports.

I'd rather have 1 6-pin port than 2 4-pin ports.

The look is OK, but not great. The weight of 6.4 lbs is so-so.

The specs otherwise are great, for the price though.

As for the video, I'd probably prefer having ATI. I may be biased by previous versions of nVidia stuff though. A couple of years back on PC laptops, the ATI drivers were WAY better than the nVidia ones. Dunno about the last year though.

a lot of my friends that have laptops say that same. prefer a GF4 on the desktop & an ATI in the laptop.