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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants
Some of the most expensive watches in the world have leather straps, and I'm pretty sure no one can buy a gold Apple Watch with the rubber strap.
Seeing as that combination is available on the Apple website...in rosé/white and gold/black...
As is so often the case CTP speaks with such "self-assurance" on a topic that he clearly knows nothing about. Unless of course this is just a figment of our imagination.



Apple - Apple Watch Edition - 18-Karat Rose Gold Case with White Sport Band

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Whoa guys, come on. It's not rubber, it's Fluoroelastomer. Much much classier.

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I was very amused that the company that touts its single piece aluminum bodies for the Airs was touting its 5,000 (or whatever) part per link watch bands.
     
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Originally Posted by OAW View Post
As is so often the case CTP speaks with such "self-assurance" on a topic that he clearly knows nothing about. Unless of course this is just a figment of our imagination.



Apple - Apple Watch Edition - 18-Karat Rose Gold Case with White Sport Band

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The point is that they're going to automatically up-sell anyone on the band, they'll start with pushing expensive bracelets hard and working down (salespeople will be evaluated by their strap sales, the better up-sellers will be rewarded), the number of gold Watches with sport bands is going to be essentially nil, because that's the way that business works. If you asked questions, instead of automatically resorting to being obnoxious, you wouldn't look like a toolbox right now.
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
Seeing as that combination is available on the Apple website...in rosé/white and gold/black...
but actually buying one with the cheaper rubber strap is another thing, they simply won't have the one with the matching gold accents available. However, they will have the link, loop, and leather options ready to go.
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
but actually buying one with the cheaper rubber strap is another thing, they simply won't have the one with the matching gold accents available. However, they will have the link, loop, and leather options ready to go.
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
I seriously doubt that.
Feel free, but when it comes to Watches, Apple won't be an electronics seller, it'll be like buying jewelry (which for most is about as annoying as buying a car).
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Mar 10, 2015, 07:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants
I'm pretty sure no one can buy a gold Apple Watch with the rubber strap.
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants
The point is that they're going to automatically up-sell anyone on the band, they'll start with pushing expensive bracelets hard and working down (salespeople will be evaluated by their strap sales, the better up-sellers will be rewarded), the number of gold Watches with sport bands is going to be essentially nil, because that's the way that business works. If you asked questions, instead of automatically resorting to being obnoxious, you wouldn't look like a toolbox right now.
Only in the mind of CTP are those two statements even remotely equivalent. I'll just leave it at that ...

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Mar 10, 2015, 07:49 PM
 
I understand his point perfectly. He's saying that the rubber-watchband Edition will be in the catalogue, but won't actually be available, thus necessitating the up-sell.

I don't think Apple operates that way, but we'll see.
     
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
I understand his point perfectly. He's saying that the rubber-watchband Edition will be in the catalogue, but won't actually be available, thus necessitating the up-sell.

I don't think Apple operates that way, but we'll see.
I would highly doubt it. Such a scenario would be classic "bait-and-switch" and quite illegal. Not to mention extremely poor customer service. Some guy who is looking to spend $10K now all of sudden is forced to spend $15K or $17K just to get a leather band instead of synthetic rubber? I can't even imagine Apple trying to piss off a customer with that kind of disposable income with such shenanigans.

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Originally Posted by OAW View Post
Only in the mind of CTP are those two statements even remotely equivalent. I'll just leave it at that ...
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I would highly doubt it. Such a scenario would be classic "bait-and-switch" and quite illegal. Not to mention extremely poor customer service. Some guy who is looking to spend $10K now all of sudden is forced to spend $15K or $17K just to get a leather band instead of synthetic rubber? I can't even imagine Apple trying to piss off a customer with that kind of disposable income with such shenanigans.
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Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
If I was getting one I'd get the black 42mm Apple Watch Sport with the black polyfillastophosormoronic band or whatever it is.
That's my (theoretical) favorite as well.
Ok, actually my favorite is the 42mm Space Black Case with Space Black Stainless Steel Link Bracelet but that's more than double the price...
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
Someone didn't actually read the article, I bet.

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If she comes with the watch, I'll buy one.
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Originally Posted by starman View Post
Someone didn't actually read the article, I bet.
Yep, sure did, but if you believe all of Apple's press releases... well...
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Mar 14, 2015, 09:06 AM
 
I believe the press release more than I believe a random internet guy.
     
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Originally Posted by Phileas View Post
I believe the press release more than I believe a random internet guy.
Pretty much this.

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Come on guys. This is our Resident Forum Internet Expert you are talking about.

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Mar 14, 2015, 02:14 PM
 
This just in....Apple's new business model is lying their ass off.

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Mar 15, 2015, 05:31 AM
 
Check you guys out, gutless trolls talking about me in the third person. How precious.
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Apple is shifting their business into becoming a luxury brand, but as with the iPhone, they will usurp the existing market not by working like the incumbents, but by being Apple.

They may be stubborn or recalcitrant, but they've never outright lied. Offering a model with full intent to never actually make it available is not a tactic that fits in at all with what Apple does, what they represent, and why people buy their stuff.
     
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Random internet guy seems angry he got caught talking BS on the Internet.
     
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
Apple is shifting their business into becoming a luxury brand, but as with the iPhone, they will usurp the existing market not by working like the incumbents, but by being Apple.
Is it a shift or are they just branching out?
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Random internet guy seems angry he got caught talking BS on the Internet.
Ooo, check out Phileas talking in the third peron - how gutsy!
     
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Originally Posted by Phileas View Post
Random internet guy seems angry he got caught talking BS on the Internet.
I'm disappointed, not angry. It's sad when adults resort to grade school tactics in an attempt to alienate those you disagree with.

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Apple is shifting their business into becoming a luxury brand, but as with the iPhone, they will usurp the existing market not by working like the incumbents, but by being Apple.

They may be stubborn or recalcitrant, but they've never outright lied. Offering a model with full intent to never actually make it available is not a tactic that fits in at all with what Apple does, what they represent, and why people buy their stuff.
Who said they're outright lying? I didn't. Of course all Watch models will be available, at least for a limited time, but the Edition Watch is going to be a "curated experience", like buying any "high image" product, and some strap combinations with it will be strongly discouraged and likely only available for purchase after the initial sale. That's the way high-end timepieces are presented and sold in a retail environment (which will be the only way you can buy the Edition).
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Ooo, check out Phileas talking in the third peron - how gutsy!
Point proven.
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
Who said they're outright lying? I didn't. Of course all Watch models will be available, at least for a limited time, but the Edition Watch is going to be a "curated experience", like buying any "high image" product, and some strap combinations with it will be strongly discouraged and likely only available for purchase after the initial sale. That's the way high-end timepieces are presented and sold in a retail environment (which will be the only way you can buy the Edition).
Apple Sales experts are routinely coached in up-selling.

Nevertheless, I'm sure we'll see the white-banded gold Apple Watch in the wild. It looks rather snazzy, I think.
     
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You may, I can put any cheap 22mm strap on my Da Vinci chrono, but it'll be someone who bought the strap later, as an accessory.
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
I'm disappointed, not angry. It's sad when adults resort to grade school tactics in an attempt to alienate those you disagree with.
It's sadder when people who have watched for over 25 years, went to Cupertino, knows some of the dev staff, current boss was an ex-Apple employee, etc., etc. get laughed at by someone who's just cynical. And wrong.

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It's sadder when people who have watched for over 25 years, went to Cupertino, knows some of the dev staff, current boss was an ex-Apple employee, etc., etc. get laughed at by someone who's just cynical. And wrong.
It's sadder when people who have watched for over 25 years, went to Cupertino, knows some of the dev staff, 2 current employees who used to work for Apple, etc., etc. get laughed at by someone who's just cynical.

See how that works? Many of us here at MacNN have connections with Apple, some have several. That doesn't make you a special snowflake, and they (Apple) aren't divine, by any stretch of the imagination (in fact, I'd say they're more cold-blooded than most other businesses). If you love them, that's fine, but it's also okay for people to be cynical about them and their businesses practices, they've done quite a number of things over the years to be deserve that. Just accept it.
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The only thing I accept is what's on Apple's site, not what random internet guy says. Sorry.

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The only thing I accept is what's on Apple's site...
That's apparent... Well, more power to ya.
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This isn't remotely constructive. Can we get back to talking about how the watch itself will fail?

I know how poor Apple's BlueTooth power management is due to SYNC in my car. Since it's available, I leave my BlueTooth on while in the car. Just streaming podcasts or music to my car drains the battery about 8% from my house to the office. Having data transmitted from the phone to the watch (and vice versa) all day long will understandably drain the battery on the watch faster than the "18 hours" Apple is claiming.

However, it's also going to drain people's iPhones much, much faster. I'm surprised how little this is being mentioned.

The Verge is saying that the Apple Watch's killer feature is that it will make people use their iPhones less, but that doesn't mean they'll have an 80% charge on their iPhone at the end of the day. I foresee a lot of people using the smithereens out of their watch, then getting aggravated when their iPhone is nearly fully depleted ahead of their anticipated schedule.

Or Apple has figured all of this out, and I'll be proven to be a shmuck next month.
     
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
This isn't remotely constructive. Can we get back to talking about how the watch itself will fail?

I know how poor Apple's BlueTooth power management is due to SYNC in my car. Since it's available, I leave my BlueTooth on while in the car. Just streaming podcasts or music to my car drains the battery about 8% from my house to the office. Having data transmitted from the phone to the watch (and vice versa) all day long will understandably drain the battery on the watch faster than the "18 hours" Apple is claiming.

However, it's also going to drain people's iPhones much, much faster. I'm surprised how little this is being mentioned.

The Verge is saying that the Apple Watch's killer feature is that it will make people use their iPhones less, but that doesn't mean they'll have an 80% charge on their iPhone at the end of the day. I foresee a lot of people using the smithereens out of their watch, then getting aggravated when their iPhone is nearly fully depleted ahead of their anticipated schedule.

Or Apple has figured all of this out, and I'll be proven to be a shmuck next month.
Option C: Apple hasn't figured it out, but things aren't as bad as you think; You are still a schmuck
     
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I'm still not interested in the product(or the category for that matter).

Was hoping for a major announcement of a killer app or a competitive advantage feature of the Apple Watch last week, but that didnt happen.
     
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
It's sad when adults resort to grade school tactics in an attempt to alienate those you disagree with.
Yeah, you'd know all about that.

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yet you're still the biggest loser here. Drink that in, sport.
     
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Yeah, you'd know all about that.
Given how you were trolling in that thread, you got off light, hoss. Not to mention, that has nothing to do with the behavior I was addressing in here, but thanks for playing.
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I got off light?

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This thread started as a beautiful gold watch but ended with a cheap plastic band on it.

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Sounds like my women.
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Note the plural.

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That would be spelled "wimins"

No, I kid. I am not a cheater. I love my woman dearly. Which is why I am getting her this frickin watch for her birthday.

But back in the day.... I practically had a harem.
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If you're not careful, he'll talk about you in the third person.
PERON, damnit. Although there was only one, and he wasn't random.
     
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Also: Apple is damn confident that this watch will actually stand the test of time (boom). A 10 grand piece of electronics should last a bit longer than a year or two.
     
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If you're not careful, he'll talk about you in the third person.
Or just tell you to go f*** yourself? In fact... Go f*** yourself.
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