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eround · May 16, 2006, 12:16 PM

I just received an email from Yahoo to try their new front page for My Yahoo. I click on the link and was told that my browser is not supported. Must use IE 6 or Firefox 1.5. Why oh why.

tooki · May 16, 2006, 06:11 PM

Lazy web developers is why.

tooki

TETENAL · May 16, 2006, 06:17 PM

Works for me (Yahoo! Germany, maybe they forgot the browser check). The new Yahoo! Mail is blocked in Safari though.

Chuckit · May 16, 2006, 06:31 PM

Yahoo is awful. If anybody knows where to direct hate mail, please let me know.

JKT · May 16, 2006, 06:41 PM

Yet another company that will never see any business from me.

JKT · May 16, 2006, 06:54 PM

Guess what. If you spoof as FireFox 1.5 it all works with WebKit anyway (well, with OmniWeb 5.5 at least which is using a newer WebKit than Safari at the moment).

msuper69 · May 16, 2006, 08:36 PM

Yahoo! About as cool as AOL.

Who the hell needs it?

Thinine · May 16, 2006, 10:03 PM

If you change the user agent to WinIE, it works fine in Safari.

Chuckit · May 16, 2006, 10:19 PM

Yes. That's what makes the snub all the more aggravating. They browser-sniff just to annoy you.

rickey939 · May 16, 2006, 10:27 PM

The new Yahoo! is really fugly.

Kenneth · May 16, 2006, 11:10 PM

I don't like the new look as well.

sushiism · May 17, 2006, 08:27 AM

The new page is in beta testing, the final thing will work on Safari I would imagine.

What you should really get annoyed about is they have removed their Java chat functionality, and say use Yahoo! messenger instead.... but only the pc one can access it.
So I emailed them complaining about this, they emailed me back saying
"There is a DHTML version available but it doesn't work in Firefox and Internet Explorer is discontinued on the mac"
what a bunch of twats

msuper69 · May 17, 2006, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by sushiism

The new page is in beta testing, the final thing will work on Safari I would imagine.

What you should really get annoyed about is they have removed their Java chat functionality, and say use Yahoo! messenger instead.... but only the pc one can access it.
So I emailed them complaining about this, they emailed me back saying
"There is a DHTML version available but it doesn't work in Firefox and Internet Explorer is discontinued on the mac"
what a bunch of twats

I happen to enjoy twats. Please don't insult them.

Chuckit · May 17, 2006, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by sushiism

The new page is in beta testing, the final thing will work on Safari I would imagine.

Considering they've not only not disabled the browser sniffing in Launch, but have made it even worse, that is a bit hopeful.

ghporter · May 17, 2006, 01:24 PM

Launch uses an app on the client's machine, and they haven't written one for Mac OS yet. That's not the same thing as not supporting Safari on their (beta) home page. I expect they'll get it straightened out shortly.

But in general, tooki's right: if a site (when finished) doesn't support Safari, it's because the web author used some sort of quick and dirty tool like Front Page (YUCK!) to write the code, and thus skipped the whole "WWW standards" thing.

jbleisure · May 17, 2006, 01:37 PM

If you change the user agent to WinIE, it works fine in Safari.

How do I do this?

Chuckit · May 17, 2006, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

Launch uses an app on the client's machine, and they haven't written one for Mac OS yet. That's not the same thing as not supporting Safari on their (beta) home page.

It used to sniff for Netscape 4.7, but it at least worked on Mac. Now they've moved even further away from support. That's what I'm saying.

ghporter · May 17, 2006, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

It used to sniff for Netscape 4.7, but it at least worked on Mac. Now they've moved even further away from support. That's what I'm saying.

Ok, makes more sense that way. I don't think Yahoo! wants to really compete with iTunes in the Mac market, and Launch sorta looks like it does in the Windows market. Could be the reason...

nemanirc · Oct 18, 2006, 07:46 AM

After months of "Beta" for Yahoo! Mail that runs on other browsers, I still get the "classic" Yahoo! mail on Safari. Are the Yahoo! programmers (or, more likely, their bosses) lazy, stubborn, or stupid?

ghporter · Oct 18, 2006, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by nemanirc

After months of "Beta" for Yahoo! Mail that runs on other browsers, I still get the "classic" Yahoo! mail on Safari. Are the Yahoo! programmers (or, more likely, their bosses) lazy, stubborn, or stupid?

It's all about cookies. If you don't select the beta version, you don't go to it. When they came out with their push for their mail beta, I looked at it on my PC desktop, and from then on, I got that version by default. But on my laptop it's still the older version.

If you want the beta version, go to Yahoo! Mail's "Options" link and you'll see a button in the upper right part of the screen for it.

nemanirc · Oct 18, 2006, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by ghporter

It's all about cookies. If you don't select the beta version, you don't go to it. When they came out with their push for their mail beta, I looked at it on my PC desktop, and from then on, I got that version by default. But on my laptop it's still the older version.

If you want the beta version, go to Yahoo! Mail's "Options" link and you'll see a button in the upper right part of the screen for it.

I see no such option in Safari…

ghporter · Oct 18, 2006, 12:01 PM

That's pretty bizarre! It's right over the Premium Options column in Firefox, but there's nothing there in Safari! Very odd. I don't know why it would show up in one fairly standards-complaint browser and not another fairly compliant browser...

tboparis · Oct 22, 2006, 05:19 AM

Even in Firefox the new Yahoo was so ugly and slow I changed back to the old version. Which is simpler and better.

bowwowman · Oct 22, 2006, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by jbleisure

How do I do this?

first you have to enable the "debug menu" in safari. Use Tinkertool or one of the other freeware apps to do this.

Then select "user agent" from the safari toolbar and choose the browser you want the sites to think you are using