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Nov 30, 2009, 06:22 PM
 
Original Fiesta, which everyone liked:



"American-ized" version.



I can just hear the board meeting:

Business major 1: "So everyone digs the Fiesta! Let's bring it to the USA!
Business major 2: "Okay! Hey but let's change it around first!"
Business major 1: "Why?"
Business major 2: "I just saw this seminar about VBL and dynamic design, and I want to change it."
Engineer: "The tooling is already done. It will cost us an additional $2 million to change it"
Business major 1: "Look, I heard my boss said he liked it, but he also likes this other car, so let's integrate it or I'm blaming you for poor sales"
Business major 2: "Hey let's get rid of those foglights. Nobody uses extra lights on their cars."
Business major 1: "Sweet can we replace them with fake vents that don't do anything? More vents = sporty, right?"
Business major 2: "Oh hell yeah! And check this out, let's make them CHROME! YEAAAHHH NIGGA!!!!
>high fives<
Business major 1: "Oh and my grandma said that lower grill opening is too aggressive"
Business major 2: "Good point let's make it look less aggressive and more boring so we don't offend anybody!"
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 06:26 PM
 
All of that just to integrate the triple-bar chrome grill...
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 06:26 PM
 
I don't know why you complain. The "American-ized" captures the spirit of Amaraca perfectly: it's fat, bulgy, and cheap looking. Isn't that what made the Failed 3 successful ?

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Nov 30, 2009, 06:30 PM
 
Yeah, it's pretty fugly.
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 06:35 PM
 
i know i saw this on Autoblog earlier today. I hope its not a true leak but....


The hatch doesnt look as bad as the sedan but not as good as the euro version.
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 06:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Isn't that what made the Failed 3 successful ?

-t
"Failed 2" would be more accurate. The Fusion is currently kicking everyone's ass.
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 06:46 PM
 
Does anyone know why headlights have to extend to the a-pillar these days? Are the designers all sheep copying each other or is there some obscure regulation in a shared target market doing it?
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Nov 30, 2009, 06:52 PM
 
They make them bigger because people like cars with personality. Also, they wrap around the sides, so they can incorporate a side reflector/turn signal light. Personally I think it looks more dynamic than just having some lights on the "front" and metal on the sides to help break it up with another material.
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 06:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by downinflames68 View Post
They make them bigger because people like cars with personality.
But why do they assume that everyone wants the personality to be "ghey"?

(Apologies to flamboyant folks reading. I'm sure you wouldn't be seen dead in one of those things)
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Nov 30, 2009, 07:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
But why do they assume that everyone wants the personality to be "ghey"?
I actually think it look gaysian.

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Nov 30, 2009, 07:25 PM
 
Uh, that's the Canadian version. Not American.

American hatch:

American sedan (why you'd want a sedan, IDK):
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 07:39 PM
 
Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
That's where there's thunder... and the wind shouts back.
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 07:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Uh, that's the Canadian version. Not American.
I don't even know what to say.

I'm sure they find a way to make the US version even more visually repulsive.

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Nov 30, 2009, 09:50 PM
 
I posted pics of the American one, judge for yourself.
     
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
I posted pics of the American one, judge for yourself.
Same car. Different colour.
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Nov 30, 2009, 09:57 PM
 
Well it doesn't have the 3-bar grille that Rob vehemently opposes.
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 09:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
Same car. Different colour.
The grilles are different between the US and Canadian sedans.
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Nov 30, 2009, 10:26 PM
 
Same car. Different colour. Different stick-on grille.
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Nov 30, 2009, 10:32 PM
 
Correct.
     
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I still prefer Porsche.
     
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Dec 1, 2009, 04:32 AM
 
the original Fiesta, which very few people loved, but which was popular in the same a toilet plunger is popular - as an effective way to get the job done:


http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1...xr22002ck1.jpg
     
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Dec 1, 2009, 04:37 AM
 
I think that looks pretty good. I'd rock the **** out of one of those.
     
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Dec 1, 2009, 09:42 AM
 
gimme the chevette!

     
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
the original Fiesta, which very few people loved, but which was popular in the same a toilet plunger is popular - as an effective way to get the job done:


http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1...xr22002ck1.jpg
hmmm. I'd say the Mk1 Fezza was actually pretty well loved. Shopping mums loved their 950 or 1.1 popular pluses, learners loved them, students loved them for their reliability and frugality. Sporty drivers loved the XR2, which was pretty cool. Everyone loved the fun handling.

The Mk 2 with it's softened and much blander looks was far less popular, but, yes, I'd say the Mk 1 was loved.

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Dec 1, 2009, 10:40 AM
 
Talked about farked up:

"Faster, faster! 'Till the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death." - HST
     
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Dec 1, 2009, 07:06 PM
 
In 1990 I owned a 1979 Fiesta. Dark red. I drove it like I stole it, and the only thing I ever broke was a bracket that held the manual stick shift to the transmission. And that only happened after I drove it into a ditch and flipped it. I didn't dent the hood or roof or any other damage than that bracket. Oh, and a gasket between the exhaust manifold the the down pipe wore out that cost about $20.
     
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How does one roll a car without damaging anything?
     
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Originally Posted by downinflames68 View Post
How does one roll a car without damaging anything?
Slowly.
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Slowly.
Indeed, at the end of a long skid trying to avoid said ditch. Oh, and it was a Michigan Ditch, which in the winter-time up there cars can disappear into.
     
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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
I don't know why you complain. The "American-ized" captures the spirit of Amaraca perfectly: it's fat, bulgy, and cheap looking. Isn't that what made the Failed 3 successful ?

-t
     
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Dec 2, 2009, 01:24 PM
 
i find it interesting that two relatively large local news outlets; are using two different stylings of the car in their articles today (where the front grill is different) about the "American release"

http://www.detnews.com/article/20091...-in-California



http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/...l_cars_wi.html

     
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Luckily there are some people prepared to make old ones rock!





engine?


oh yes, here it is.


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Dec 2, 2009, 07:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
Does anyone know why headlights have to extend to the a-pillar these days? Are the designers all sheep copying each other or is there some obscure regulation in a shared target market doing it?
for years, car designers of Peugeot have tried to make the head-and taillights meet but they failed too.
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Dec 4, 2009, 01:17 AM
 
Well, I just reserved mine. It's the top-line SES hatch with the "Upgrade" package, SYNC, leather, etc. In Red Candy Metallic with Cashmere interior. Totally stoked. I'm wondering how this whole reservation thing will work tho. There isn't a downpayment or anything involved, just have to contact a dealer by May 3rd. I think I'll go to the Ford place tomorrow and see if they can clarify. Also a lot of the options were not available online such as moonroof and SFE package.
     
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Dec 4, 2009, 10:13 PM
 
> are using two different stylings of the car in their articles today (where the front grill is different)

The hatch and the sedan have different stylings including the front grille. IMO the sedan looks like a Kia refuguee, and I don't like it. The hatchback looks far better, and a hatch is more practical too.
     
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Well, I just reserved mine. It's the top-line SES hatch with the "Upgrade" package, SYNC, leather, etc. In Red Candy Metallic with Cashmere interior. Totally stoked. I'm wondering how this whole reservation thing will work tho. There isn't a downpayment or anything involved, just have to contact a dealer by May 3rd. I think I'll go to the Ford place tomorrow and see if they can clarify. Also a lot of the options were not available online such as moonroof and SFE package.
Awesome, but why not get a Focus SVT? Better car, less money. Same body style. I like the Fiesta... but I woudn't spend 15 grand on it.
     
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Dec 5, 2009, 04:35 PM
 
No matter.
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Rob, you're aware of the fact that we don't get SVTs over here and that the Focus is more money than the Fiesta, right?
Are you aware that we DID get the Focus SVT here? There is not new Focus SVT, perhaps you're thinking of ST? He was referring to used.

I've looked at Focus SVTs a lot, but haven't been able to find one that doesn't look like it's been flogged its whole life.
     
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Are you aware that we DID get the Focus SVT here?
Really? I thought we only had the STs.
Must admit, I haven't really been paying that much attention. Fords aren't really my cup of tea.
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
Really? I thought we only had the STs.
Must admit, I haven't really been paying that much attention. Fords aren't really my cup of tea.
Oh, well I forget, there was a ST trim in the US, but it wasn't like the European Focus. Here it was just a body kit for the sedan.
     
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Oh, well I forget, there was a ST trim in the US, but it wasn't like the European Focus. Here it was just a body kit for the sedan.
I'm getting confused now. I thought you were UK but that makes it sound like you're US?
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Dude. Find a clean SVT. It'll be worth having that over the fiesta.

     
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
I'm getting confused now. I thought you were UK but that makes it sound like you're US?
No, I'm in the US. Colorado. If I was in the UK I could just go to the dealer and buy one...
     
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No, I'm in the US. Colorado. If I was in the UK I could just go to the dealer and buy one...
Ahh. Makes sense now.
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You want FWD in colorado?
     
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Well, I currently have FWD and have no issues. Never been stuck.
     
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This is where Rob tells you that you want the exact same car that he's got and that everything else is poop.
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Originally Posted by downinflames68 View Post
You want FWD in colorado?
I had absolutely zero problems driving right out of and around in this (The WS-50s might have had something to do with it):



In fact, my bumper was plowing the road for everyone else.
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Ford Fiesta custom builder is also now live here: 2011 Ford Fiesta | Official Site of the Ford Fiesta | FordVehicles.com

ive customized a few and am getting excited again about this car (the manual hatch of course). every time though i have to remove those chrome inserts on the front LED lights. just not my style and i think makes the car look 100 X better w/o them.

Also, looks like the release date has been pushed back to summer 2010.
     
   
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