[xi_hyperon]

Yeah, the call sign of a particular Enterprise was worked into this episode. When I saw it, I knew immediately it was something familiar, then it struck me.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by xi_hyperon 

Yeah, the call sign of a particular Enterprise was worked into this episode. When I saw it, I knew immediately it was something familiar, then it struck me.

I remember them doing the same thing in the Miniseries as one of the first ships the Colonial 1 finds after the attack also had the same registry number as the Enterprise which the captain read out loud.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by reader50 

• Kara's viper was replaced because the old one was damaged too much during the pickup operation. So rather than try to fix it and maybe have some clues slip through, they gave her a factory-new one. It's obvious the viper was changed, but no further data slips through.

Actually tonights episode gave me a huge revilation as to what is going on with Starbuck. Have a close look at her new painting in her bunk as it gives another clue.

I'm positive I've figured the general idea of what happened when she disappeared and came back from the dead.. I'm just not sure exactly what it means or how exactly why it happened.

[besson3c]

analogue: please share with us your theory

[abe]

An Aside: I am not a fan of the show and have only today even visited this thread, IIRC. But FYI there is a website which features back episodes of Battlestar Galactica.

Watch full length videos of Battlestar Galactica online at Fancast

Hope this makes someone smile.

[Chuckit]

When abe says "back episodes," he's not kidding around about the "back."

[reader50]

I'm going to toss an odd idea into the ring.

Tori Foster's spacing of Cally. It's pretty definitive that the 4 living lives in the fleet are evil after all. Rather early in S4 to reach that conclusion.

So what if it wasn't the Tori Foster who is the president's aide? What if it was a different Tori model? The only real clue we got was that Tori noticed the missing access panel in the corridor.

She didn't see who (if anyone) had gone through, and would have had to deduce that it might have been Cally, based on the Chief not getting the note. Which Cally replaced in the door immediately on getting back to her quarters.

Then, the Tori who spaced Cally knew how to use her superior Cylon strength. We haven't seen any clue that the 4 have been exploring that aspect of their new lives. Quite the opposite, they've been exploring the ambrosia bar and sharing their angst with each other in regular meetings. And the Tori we know has been spending free time trying to cozy secrets out of Baltar, not working out in the gym.

Until the show shows us differently, I'm going to guess our Tori had nothing to do with it. The other Fives acted to protect a hybrid child, and to protect the 4 in the fleet from early exposure.

[Mithras]

Made me sad, this episode. I adored that Cally.

[mrtew]

Originally Posted by Mithras 

Made me sad, this episode. I adored that Cally.

Yeah those Cylons are bad news. In fact this season seems to have introduced three new types of Cylons so far and probably one more is coming. The final 4 are one type, , the newly conscious Centurions, plus the lobotomized Raiders. Nobody has mentioned Boomer either. What the frak happened to her? She used to be so sweet and wonderful and good and now she's voting against her sisters to hurt the raiders and kissing on that creep?

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by reader50 

I'm going to toss an odd idea into the ring.

Tori Foster's spacing of Cally. It's pretty definitive that the 4 living lives in the fleet are evil after all. Rather early in S4 to reach that conclusion.

So what if it wasn't the Tori Foster who is the president's aide? What if it was a different Tori model? The only real clue we got was that Tori noticed the missing access panel in the corridor.

I don't know, my reading so far is that the four living in the fleet aren't all "evil," but they are individually having very different reactions to learning and living with the fact that they are Cylons. Tori so far seems to be becoming more nefarious, but the Chief still seemed shell-shocked, Tigh is in denial, and not much seems to have changed in Anders.

I don't think that there are any other copies of Tori or the other 4 around in the fleet. With someone as high profile as Tori or Colonel Tigh, I have to assume that someone would have noticed another copy by now.

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by mrtew 

Nobody has mentioned Boomer either. What the frak happened to her? She used to be so sweet and wonderful and good and now she's voting against her sisters to hurt the raiders and kissing on that creep?

When the supposed benign-occupation of New Caprica failed, she lost a lot of influence among the Cylons, having tried to convince them (with Caprica-Six) that the humans weren't a threat. She kind of had a backlash against the humans at that point, for example telling Athena that the child Hera was still alive, and more closely siding with Cavil.

The long break between seasons has definitely made it harder for me to keep the Boomer and Six copies straight, but the Battlestar Wiki is great for refreshing my memory:
Sharon Valerii - Battlestar Wiki

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by Mithras 

Made me sad, this episode. I adored that Cally.

Yeah. I was about to get mad at the show when she walked into the airlock. I was thinking, "What? The show forgets about Cally for half of last season and then it brings her back just to turn her into a suicidal stoner?" But then Tori walked in and I was like, "Ohhh, I'm sorry I doubted you, BSG."

I'm kind of wondering now if Cally will turn out to be the Final One, though. It would be a shocking twist seeing as it seems like she's dead, and it would make all the biggest Cylon-haters (Tigh, Tyrol and Anders were the leaders of the anti-Cylon terrorist group, and Cally's the one who murdered Boomer) turn out to be skinjobs.

Originally Posted by mrtew 

Yeah those Cylons are bad news. In fact this season seems to have introduced three new types of Cylons so far and probably one more is coming. The final 4 are one type, , the newly conscious Centurions, plus the lobotomized Raiders. Nobody has mentioned Boomer either. What the frak happened to her? She used to be so sweet and wonderful and good and now she's voting against her sisters to hurt the raiders and kissing on that creep?

It's hard to tell because Grace Park's screen time is divided among like 11,000 different characters, but I think Boomer's actually had the most implicit character development on the show. When the show started out, she was sweet and girly and immature. Then she found out she was a Cylon and her life pretty much went to pot. After she went back to Galactica last season and all her old friends (and even Athena, IIRC) wanted to kill her again, it seems like Boomer has realized that she needs to look out for herself and she's taken Cavil's side in wanting the Cylons to become insular and conservative.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

analogue: please share with us your theory

Ok since you ask nicely

Firstly, I seriously doubt they will make her a Cylon. It would be too easy and it is too much of a cop out.

Anywho, when Starbuck first came back she said she remembered "earth, a moon, a planet with rings (saturn I guess) and a comet". The comet comet never sat well with me as in our whole solar system I can't believe when flying about she would notice and remember any old comet. I was thinking Halley's comet but that is too corny and hardly a good navigational marker.

In last nights episode they show a quick flash of what the comet vision was and it didn't look like much of a comet to me.

Then if you take a close look at starbucks new painting of the comet she saw you see this:


That's no comet. IN fact it looks a whole lot like this:


What is that exactly? Well it is something from the old series that never aired called "The ship of lights".

Ship of Lights - Battlestar Wiki
Note "The Ship of Lights is the spacecraft used by the Beings of Light.
The Ship of Lights is an immensely large and fast spacecraft of unknown but highly advanced technology. Viper pilots hear a strange piercing sound as it approaches. The craft has the ability to render people unconscious, as well as make them disappear (War of the Gods, Part I). The "vanished" pilots and spacecraft are transported to a different dimension. When returned to their own dimension the warriors' memories have been erased regarding their abduction experience. (War of the Gods, Part II)."

That pretty sums up what happened to starbuck no?

Another description:
"The Ship of Lights is significantly faster than any known spacecraft, and appears to have the ability to simply show up wherever needed instantly. Its drive system emits an extremely loud sound which somehow travels through the void of space and can be heard by people in nearby spaceships. The sound of this drive system is sufficient to render any human nearby unconscious."
Ship of Lights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Could this have been the cause of the fleet losing power just as starbuck arrived? Not to mention the sudden headache that the President got?

Also when Starbuck first entered the Malstrom she was rendered unconscious also where she had the lovely conversation with head Leoben.

"The ship is crewed by an apparently humanoid race who are never expressly referred to by name in the series, but who are called "Seraphs" in the scripts for the episodes in which they appear. The Seraphs appear to be noncorporeal sentients, and claim rather ambiguously to have once been more traditionally mortal, but evolved to their present state.
In the episode "War of the Gods", the crew of the ship indicate they are the natural enemies of Count Iblis. Because it is strongly implied that Count Iblis may be the original basis for stories of Satan, this could imply the Ship Of Lights is meant to represent angels. However, this is not stated directly. On the other hand, the episode indicates very strongly that the Ship Of Lights is meant to be "good" and Iblis is meant to be "evil".

So in other words for some reason this "ship of lights" purposely lured starbuck in kept her for a couple of months to show her earth and then dropped her back with the fleet with no memories of meeting them.

This would explain how starbuck traveled such huge distances in a viper and why she can't remember anything about it.

To further back this up I remember an interview with RDM ages ago where he mentioned that they were thinking of ways to bring in the ship of lights so that is a definite conformation.

As to who these beings are I have a wild guess.
They MAY be the 12 beings who the humans worship as gods. This could be purley by accedent and they don't want this role.

4000 years ago humans and these beings could have lived on Kobol together and since these beings are so advanced humans would naturally have thought of them as gods. Some sort of conflict could have taken place that caused the exodus from Kobol and humans to flee to the 12 colonies.

With the current situation these beings on the ship may be acting as that 3rd party that many of us suspected was there all along. It could be that Head Baltar, Head Six and Head Leoben are actually these beings trying to guide everyone on the right course. Six has always said that she is "an angel of god sent to help" Baltar.

In fact Starbuck herself might be one of these beings as they have hinted she is playing out the roll of one of the gods and head Leoben encouraged her to "join the others" when she went into the Maelstrom.

The Cylon "god" or aka first hybrid also warned that starbuck will lead to the end of humanity could have been a lie as he may be a god but more like a satan role where humanity winning means cylons losing. These 12 gods/beings on the ship of light could be in conflict with the "one true God" which could be a malevolent entity trying to play god.

So again it seems there is a whole other story of Gods fighting for supremacy.

It rememinds me of the first episode of Star Trek Voyager where the "caretaker" accedently caused damage to a planets atmospher and from that point on send the planet energy to make up for the mistake. The people on that planet worshiped him as a god.

It could be that these 12 beings on the ship of light are somehow feeling responsible for the original conflict 2000 years ago and are now playing the side lines to make sure humanity is put on the right path without getting directly involved.

Anyway, that's the rough idea I think. Thoughts?

[design219]

Wow analogue SPRINKLES, nice work!

Any idea what the "this has all happened before, and will happen again" bit means?

[mrtew]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey 

I don't know, my reading so far is that the four living in the fleet aren't all "evil," ....

Yeah that's what I think is so refreshing about modern sci-fi like BSG and the X-men etc is that you can leave behind childish concepts of good and evil (still widely seen in crap like Harry Potter and religious world politics) and see that both 'sides' have valid interests and are controlled by individuals with various needs and desires and fears and dreams rather that by abstract positive and negative forces. There is nobody in BSG that I'd call evil. Some people are weaker and others are stronger and I sure like some more than others a lot of times but and some definitely think more of the greater good than of their own selfish interests, but each side thinking of the other as 'evil' is as silly as how humans still relate to eachother on Earth in 2008. I wouldn't say Tori has revealed herself to be evil, I'd say she was defending the half human/cylon child of the man she is falling in love with from its suicidal mother and eliminating the near certain threat of exposure of the final four if Cally isn't allowed to follow thru with her plans for her own death.

When the Basestars were destroying the other Basestars, Cavil said that the sixes etc could trust their god to watch over their immortal souls, and then said that he and Boomer etc were machines and that they didn't have souls. Is he actually saying that there is some fundamental difference between the cylons that voted for the raider lobotomy because they are 'tools' and the ones that voted against it because they are 'beings'.

[besson3c]

Wow Analogue, that's an extremely well thought out theory that explains a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if you were absolutely correct, a whole other race would make for an amazing plot twist.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by design219 

Wow analogue SPRINKLES, nice work!

Any idea what the "this has all happened before, and will happen again" bit means?

It could mean some sort of time loop so things get repeated over and over but that doesn't sit well with me for a couple of reasons. 1, it is a bit too sci-fi for the audience and it would be hard to explain where and when the big reset happens all over again.

2, leoben suggested that each time the rolls are played by different people (last time leoben was at the other end of the torture starbuck put him through) so if it were a time loop it would be the same exact story over and over.

I think it is a more general term meaning that when we reach a certain point in our evolution we will eventually create artificial life such as the Cylons. These creatures will eventually become intelligent enough and evolve past their creators in many ways and rebel. At that point the only solution is to end both species and take the best of each and create a new race. "earth" could just be implanted into our religion/programming/bibles as a survival tool for when this eventually happens. Earth doesn't also have to mean our planet as it doesn't have a big name tag on it, the last time it could have been Kobol they were looking for as it was the original resting place of the colonies.

The thing that interests me about the Ship of lights is that it does look a bit like an advanced Cylon BaseStar. Perhaps these creatures are the result of the last time this happened thousands of years ago and these are actually 12 cylon models evolved.

I'm pretty sure the 12 gods must be on this ship as 12 cylon models and 12 gods is a big coincidence. Also, these 12 aren't trying to represent themselves as gods as it could have happened by accident as any superior race is usually thought of as gods.

RDM also said he wouldn't have Aliens on the show which would mean these beings are either Cylon or human or something in between.

Still I do hope that these beings on this ship are responsible for the Head Six, Baltar and Leoben as it shows they have been secretly involved from day 1 to make sure humanity survives and finds its way for a new beginning. It also shows that perhaps the 12 gods on the ship of lights are in some sort of conflict with the one true god which again is why he is trying to make them not follow starbuck.

This ship of lights also nicely explains how starbucks viper got fixed up so nicely. Either they brought her back to life or they snatched her up and it just looked like she died.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by mrtew 

I wouldn't say Tori has revealed herself to be evil, I'd say she was defending the half human/cylon child of the man she is falling in love with from its suicidal mother and eliminating the near certain threat of exposure of the final four if Cally isn't allowed to follow thru with her plans for her own death.

She killed Cally after Cally had abandoned her suicidal plans and basically accepted Tory. I don't see how somebody crying on your shoulder is reasonable provocation to kill. If they hadn't put that part in where Cally gives in, you'd have a point, but I think they made Tory pretty explicitly evil in that scene.

Originally Posted by mrtew 

When the Basestars were destroying the other Basestars, Cavil said that the sixes etc could trust their god to watch over their immortal souls, and then said that he and Boomer etc were machines and that they didn't have souls. Is he actually saying that there is some fundamental difference between the cylons that voted for the raider lobotomy because they are 'tools' and the ones that voted against it because they are 'beings'.

I think he was being sarcastic.

[mrtew]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

She killed Cally after Cally had abandoned her suicidal plans and basically accepted Tory. I don't see how somebody crying on your shoulder is reasonable provocation to kill. If they hadn't put that part in where Cally gives in, you'd have a point, but I think they made Tory pretty explicitly evil in that scene.

You skipped over the "and eliminating the near certain threat of exposure of the final four if Cally isn't allowed to follow thru with her plans for her own death" part of what I said. That's why she felt like she had to kill her... to keep the secret of four's identity, not just because of her 'evilness'. Imagine if BSG degenerated to such a simplistic level where it was all about who was good and who was evil. That's not really how you see it is it? If so we're watching REALLY different shows.

[voodoo]

Oh a good episode! It distracted me enough from all the plot-holes so I don't care about them any more. Am just looking forward to the next episode (and plenty more Dean Stockwell!!!)

Dean has the talent of delivering lines dripping with sarcasm without crossing the line. I hope there will be more Edward James Olmos as well.

Those two are scenestealers when given the chance.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by mrtew 

You skipped over the "and eliminating the near certain threat of exposure of the final four if Cally isn't allowed to follow thru with her plans for her own death" part of what I said. That's why she felt like she had to kill her... to keep the secret of four's identity, not just because of her 'evilness'. Imagine if BSG degenerated to such a simplistic level where it was all about who was good and who was evil. That's not really how you see it is it? If so we're watching REALLY different shows.

I don't think having a reason for what you do makes it not evil. "Evil" in my mind doesn't mean committing random acts of violence for no reason. Every tyrant and heartless killer in history could probably tell you why they did what they did, but that doesn't make it OK. There are a lot of morally ambiguous characters on BSG — Baltar, Six, Boomer, Tigh, even Roslin. I like that about the show. But just like real life, not everything is morally ambiguous.

Case in point, Cally was trusting Tory by the time Tory killed her. It seems quite likely the Final Five could have gotten an ally out of that situation. Killing her was not necessary, merely convenient — Tory wanted the baby and Galen and didn't care about Cally.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

This ship of lights also nicely explains how starbucks viper got fixed up so nicely. Either they brought her back to life or they snatched her up and it just looked like she died.

In the original series, didn't Starbuck return from the Ship of Lights in an all white uniform ...?

[design219]

Originally Posted by voodoo 

Dean has the talent of delivering lines dripping with sarcasm without crossing the line. I hope there will be more Edward James Olmos as well.

It would be good to see those two together at some point.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by voodoo 

Dean has the talent of delivering lines dripping with sarcasm without crossing the line. I hope there will be more Edward James Olmos as well.

I hope there's more Edward James Olmos without Mary McDonnell. Scenes between those two are deadly boring these days. I swear, it's like Ron Moore thought, "You know what this show needs? More old people talking quietly and sighing. That **** is gripping!"

[mrtew]

What do you think Adama was talking to Tyrol about at the end? You don't think he was telling him that he's a Cylon do you?

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by mrtew 

What do you think Adama was talking to Tyrol about at the end? You don't think he was telling him that he's a Cylon do you?

My guess is he was telling Tyrol that Cally was dead or consoling him ...

[Sourbook]

With all due respect, I'm not buying the whole "Ship of Lights" theory. I would hope that all the chess pieces are already on the board at this point. I would be sorely disappointed if any new life-forms or any new technology were put on the table in season four. I want the series to conclude logically and properly with the players that are already in place.

[mrtew]

I definitely know what you mean by that but this show has been FULL of surprises and moves really fast (season3 aside) and to ask that there be no more over what I'd basically consider to be the last half of the series may be a little much. It's not like we're into the final episode.... there's basically two entire half-seasons left. And I submit that there's no way to explain Starbuck's reappearance and visions or even Baltar's with only what we know now. There has got to be some other beings or gods or something yet to be revealed.

[Eriamjh]

Cally really blew it when she gave her kid to that Cylon. I saw it coming. They are evil. There will be more conflict.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by Sourbook 

With all due respect, I'm not buying the whole "Ship of Lights" theory. I would hope that all the chess pieces are already on the board at this point. I would be sorely disappointed if any new life-forms or any new technology were put on the table in season four. I want the series to conclude logically and properly with the players that are already in place.

I'd say that if the Ship of Lights shows up, they'll be connected to the in-the-head characters, who clearly have an agenda separate from those of the humans and the cylons.

Having said that, I'll be disappointed if the Ship of Lights is part of the story; too much copying from the original series. Though, the similarity between the white viper in this series and the white uniforms in the original series combined with the disappearance and mysterious reappearance seem to be strong suggestions.

[andi*pandi]

I agree that Tory lied about not being evil. If she was worried about Cally spilling the beans, Cally HUGGING her should have assauged that fear. Although, I half expected Cally to plug Tory in the head with a wrench at that point. The reverse happenening surprised me.

I expect there to be some kind of conflict between Chief and Tory now... unless you think she managed to cover it up? Could she have put the key back in the airlock side, pushed the close door button, and gotten out again before the door closed? Otherwise, Chief is going to know Cally was murdered, not suicide.

and wow, analogue, that is one heckuva theory!

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by andi*pandi 

I agree that Tory lied about not being evil. If she was worried about Cally spilling the beans, Cally HUGGING her should have assauged that fear. Although, I half expected Cally to plug Tory in the head with a wrench at that point. The reverse happenening surprised me.

Cally was too unstable. She had to go (from Tory's perspective)

I expect there to be some kind of conflict between Chief and Tory now... unless you think she managed to cover it up? Could she have put the key back in the airlock side, pushed the close door button, and gotten out again before the door closed? Otherwise, Chief is going to know Cally was murdered, not suicide.

My guess that we're gonna see a division within the final 4 ... Tigh and Anders vs. the Chief and Tory (Tory is gonna console the Chief over his loss and wrap him around her finger, then, mid-season, he'll find out and go back to Tigh and Anders)

[analogue SPRINKLES]

I don't understand why many of you are confused with what Tori did. It wasn't Cylon programming nor is she evil she just did what she had to do to save her own ass along with the kid and the other 3 skinjobs.

Cally was acting crazy early in the episode, then Tori somebody listened in on the conversation so she followed Cally back.

She knew that if she let Tori out in a mental condition where she was about to kill herself, her child AND even tried to kill her own husband that she was a lose canon.

If Cally would have got out the first thing she would have done is tell everyone about the 3 skinjobs she knows about and it would have been them that got blown out the airlock. Heck I would have done the same in Tori's position.

She could have easily covered up the whole key thing as if it was still in the airlock switch it could have easily been blown out with Cally. All tori had to do was hide the key when she was done.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by Sourbook 

With all due respect, I'm not buying the whole "Ship of Lights" theory. I would hope that all the chess pieces are already on the board at this point. I would be sorely disappointed if any new life-forms or any new technology were put on the table in season four. I want the series to conclude logically and properly with the players that are already in place.

Ok well that is your choice but seriously dude... look at that painting. Does that look like anything BUT that crystle ship with 3 balls of light around it? I mean it is spot on and also looks nothing like a comet. They are almost rubbing it in our face!








As for all the players being on the board... like I said if the creatures on this ship of lights are in fact the 12 gods OR if they are the ones playing the head 6, baltar and Leoben then they have been deeply involved since day 1.

I was also thinking the way head 6 is always trying to convince Baltar of the ONE god. Perhaps if the Ship of Lights beings are in fact the 12 gods humans worship and these beings are not Gods and all and don't want this title this would be a good way to convince humanity to forget about them and their involvement and go back to the proper worship of 1 God. They did stuff like this on a few episodes of Star Trek when the enterprise crew were though of as gods because of all the fancy technology.

[Chuckit]

I don't think the Ship of Lights mythology is going to be the same as in the original series, but that definitely looks like the same thing. Good eye to spot that. I thought it was supposed to be a basestar.

[analogika]

I find season 4 extremely intriguing, and really appreciate the effort, analogue!

[reader50]

[analogika]

Wrong series?

[mrtew]

Originally Posted by reader50 

Yep, that's definitely what Starbuck is painting! Good eye!

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by analogika 

Wrong series?

Good point. I was thinking more along these lines:

[design219]

What is that?

[Cold Warrior]

Originally Posted by design219 

What is that?

It's the Crystalline Entity from ST: TNG. Lore - Data's evil twin - called it to a planet.

Crystalline Entity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Eriamjh]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey 

Good point. I was thinking more along these lines:

Sweet. The Crystalline Entity!

I found the ship of lights plotline from the original BSG to be a bit weak. It's kind of a writer's escape device. "We are being led by mysterious evolved beings who know everything." Pretty lame, Milhouse.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey 

Good point. I was thinking more along these lines:

Ha ya that is how I described it to my friend after I watched BSG.

[Don Pickett]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

I don't understand why many of you are confused with what Tori did. It wasn't Cylon programming nor is she evil she just did what she had to do to save her own ass along with the kid and the other 3 skinjobs.

I actually think we don't know why Tori did what she did, which makes it much more interesting. IMO, there are three possibilities:

1) This was her cylon programming. She was making making sure the three of the final five remaining in the main fleet are undetected;
2) It was her cylon programming, but the primary aim was not to ensure the three of the final five are undetected, but to ensure the safety of the second human-cylon hybrid, to which we know the cylon's attach biblical importance;
3) Much more interesting, for me, is that Tori is in love with the chief and acted to remove a rival for his affections. We know that cylons are capable of love, as Boomer obviously loves Helo, and Anders loves Starbuck. But, we don't really know how cylon love works, and whether it's akin to human love. Tori may be acting from a place she herself doesn't even understand.

Apologies if someone has said this already.

[Stogieman]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

Anywho, when Starbuck first came back she said she remembered "earth, a moon, a planet with rings (saturn I guess) and a comet".

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

Ok well that is your choice but seriously dude... look at that painting. Does that look like anything BUT that crystle ship with 3 balls of light around it? I mean it is spot on and also looks nothing like a comet. They are almost rubbing it in our face!

OMG! That's no ship of lights. Starbuck found Earth by following baby Kal-El's spaceship.

[mrtew]

wow hard to believe that those special effects were done AFTER we had gone to the moon and seen what the Earth looks like from space....

[JoshuaZ]

So many new questions, so few answers. They keep me watching thougH!

[Sourbook]

Ship of Lights? Or just bright/nearby stars?

[design219]

Oh man, if that thing turns out to be the star of Bethlehem!

They wouldn't dare.