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Oracle taking over for Apple for Java updates
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olePigeon
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Apr 27, 2012, 05:14 PM
 
Forget Apple: Oracle to bring Java security fixes directly to Mac users

Wasn't sure if this was OS X or Application related. In any event, Oracle's taking of the update process for Java. Oracle's website just says "OS X," but it doesn't say which versions. I was hoping that a security fix for the latest Trojan for 10.4 and 10.5 would be possible.
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Apr 27, 2012, 05:15 PM
 
Looks like it's Lion only.
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Apr 28, 2012, 02:26 PM
 
Oracle has less motivation than Apple to support 5-7 year old OS releases.
     
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Apr 28, 2012, 05:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by mduell View Post
Oracle has less motivation than Apple to support 5-7 year old OS releases.
According to Oracle's Java SE information they support Windows XP (11 years old), Windows 2003 Server (9 years old), and Windows Vista (6 years old) along with newer versions of Windows so not sure how you came to that conclusion. Probably a more viable explanation is that Oracle's history with Java development on OSX began within a year or so (e.g. right around the launch of OSX Lion) so they used that as a starting point which would also make it the minimum version of system they would support henceforth.
     
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Apr 28, 2012, 07:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by cgc View Post
According to Oracle's Java SE information they support Windows XP (11 years old), Windows 2003 Server (9 years old), and Windows Vista (6 years old) along with newer versions of Windows so not sure how you came to that conclusion. Probably a more viable explanation is that Oracle's history with Java development on OSX began within a year or so (e.g. right around the launch of OSX Lion) so they used that as a starting point which would also make it the minimum version of system they would support henceforth.
Platforms with hundreds of millions of users that they've supported throughout the product lifecycle. Tiger and Leopard have neither of those factors. They're not coming to market to support old platforms they haven't previously supported.
     
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Apr 28, 2012, 08:22 PM
 
Okay.

Pretend I'm just a user who wants a current version of this Java thing on my machine.

Where the **** do I download it?
     
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Originally Posted by mduell View Post
Platforms with hundreds of millions of users that they've supported throughout the product lifecycle. Tiger and Leopard have neither of those factors. They're not coming to market to support old platforms they haven't previously supported.
So your initial logic wasn't fully developed or are you changing your mind? Java can die and I'd be fine with it...wasn't one of the C language derivatives (e.g. C, C++, etc.) supposed to be the cross-platform language of choice? Now we get crappy Java that's only tolerable because our computers are much faster now...but we really get 2000-era native app performance in a 2012 Java app equivalent.
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