[macroy]

In its original unedited, uncut form. And it has done that for the last three years I'm told. Its a good movie, and I think its a good showing for Veterans day. But a local radio station had some issues with it this morning - and I have to agree...

37 f-bombs were laid out last night on prime time TV. But the FCC probably won't do anything about it. Yet - the local radio station was fined twice for using the same prohibited language. Doesn't seem fair does it?

This has nothing to do with free speech or any of those issues.. it just a simple "selective enforcement" issue...


Thoughts?

[badidea]

37 f-bombs?

[Randman]

Context. And with the correct parental alerts, it shouldn't be a problem.

[davidflas]

Originally posted by badidea:
37 f-bombs?

you know..... fsck!! The f-word.... etc...

[Daracle]

Originally posted by Randman:
Context. And with the correct parental alerts, it shouldn't be a problem.

I totally agree....
Somehow I dont think it was in the same context as what they were using it on the radio.

[UNTeMac]

Why is it we're more worried about the f*cking f-word than we are about the intense violence in that movie? I'd be far more concerned about the effects of the latter on any children who might've been watching than I would be about one over-hyped word.

[demograph68]

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Here is something related:

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=235072

[badidea]

Originally posted by davidflas:
you know..... fsck!! The f-word.... etc...

Oh, I see, that's why I didn't get it!
There is no problem saying this on german TV - that's why Enimen laid about 3078 f-bombs last time he was in a german TV show (in about 10 minutes)!

[brapper]

i love me a good swearing context.

[The Godfather]

Did World War 2 soldiers even know the word fsck when they were in combat? Isn't fsck a modern word?

[AB^2=BCxAC]

Originally posted by The Godfather:
Did World War 2 soldiers even know the word fsck when they were in combat? Isn't fsck a modern word?

Nope, it's been a class act for centuries. There are books on the subject's history, seeing as people luv-it-to-deth.

[The Mick]

Originally posted by UNTiMac:
Why is it we're more worried about the f*cking f-word than we are about the intense violence in that movie? I'd be far more concerned about the effects of the latter on any children who might've been watching that I would about one over-hyped word.

[cold_reality]

Originally posted by macroy:


Thoughts?

They did it fo the veterans?
Doesn't make much sense, I know, but we live in a war crazy society.
That's why Tom hanks can say f*ck as many times as he wants and as long as he is pretendin to be a WWII soldier and as long as its done on Vet Day its Okay.

Yet Janet can't get away with a lil flashin at the Super Bowl, and radio stations get the smack down on em. I guess if she had been in fatigues and the station guy said he was vet, it woulda been ok.

[wdlove]

I congratulate ABC for having the courage to air "Saving Private Ryan."

[gumby5647]

F - U - C - K


Fornication Under Constent of King

[lothar56]

Originally posted by AB^2=BCxAC:
Nope, it's been a class act for centuries. There are books on the subject's history, seeing as people luv-it-to-deth.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/fwordflash.html

there ya go

[ambush]

A brilliant war movie.

Tom Hanks roxx

[BoomStick]

They aired it here last night.

Great movie. I have it on video along with the Band of Brothers series and Schindler's List.

I also have a Springfield 1903-A4 scout rifle like the sniper had and an M-1 Garand.

[Powaqqatsi]

Great movie

But whining about the word **** is just dumb. Censorship is any form is pointless and should not be done. People who invest their time in censoring movies and other media should invest their time in more usefull tasks. It's not like it "protects" your children, they know the word anyway. I always laugh when I here music where they erase the "fukc" from the song so you end up with a gap for a fraction of a second. Doing this makes it waaay more obvious that the word is indeed there. If you listen to uncensored music you don't even notice it. Well, I don't anyway.

[macroy]

Originally posted by Randman:
Context. And with the correct parental alerts, it shouldn't be a problem.

that was discussed a bit too... But I can't imagine the FCC standing by if that same DJ did it again but this time with an audio disclaimer prior to his show.

Supposedly, ABC did contact FCC regarding the showing - and they said they can only review situations AFTER it occurs. I don't see that as a "well, if you put a disclaimer, you'll be fine".

As for the graphic violence vs the language - I'm not putting one over the other... It was just the example that was used on the radio. Again, its the issue of them not applying their "regulations" across the board. And not the actual content.

[Eriamjh]

The FCC gave them the OK. I believe ABC also was quoted in saying "F*ck those who complain about it."

[d4nth3m4n]

**** (0)

there, come and get me FCC! this is bull***t the whole "offensive" language. i can understand talking about things that are inappropriate is no good, but to ban a word on its usage alone is well, ****ing Bull***t.

[mitchell_pgh]

I totally agree with the "context" post from Randman.

If you don't see the difference... you are kidding yourself.

I understand that the line can be blurred at times... but comparing a technically accurate period piece film of WWII vs. a "shock jock" with reference to appropriate language is black and white in my book.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by gumby5647:
F - U - C - K
Fornication Under Constent of King

What ?

-t

[Powaqqatsi]

Originally posted by turtle777:
What ?

-t

Prima nocte.

[Xeo]

I don't think I've ever heard that word on network tv before. Weird. I think I'd be set aback a bit. Although with a movie like that, it's not the language I'd worry about if it came down to censoring.

[MrForgetable]

An intense movie, no doubt.

[macroy]

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:

I understand that the line can be blurred at times... but comparing a technically accurate period piece film of WWII vs. a "shock jock" with reference to appropriate language is black and white in my book.

Please explain? In my book neither is 'wrong' (you can argue that the DJ's remarks were part of his show). So you either let both go, or smack both with a fine.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
Prima nocte.

I know what that is, but what's that have to do with F.U.C.K ?

-t

[Patrick]

Originally posted by turtle777:
I know what that is, but what's that have to do with F.U.C.K ?

-t

It doesn't. There's apparently a hoax going around that the word "fuck" originated as an acronym, either "Fornication Under Consent of the King" or "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge." The word is supposedly Germanic in origin, having various cognates in northern European languages, such as "fokken" in Dutch, "focka" in Swedish, and "fukka" in Norwegian.

For Unlawful Carnal Knowlege was a pretty decent Van Halen album, though.

[VoicesInMyHead]

So, you can show guys with their guts hanging out, or dismemberment by bombs, all on prime time....

But you can't say bad words or the slightest bit of nudity.

Man, what's wrong with the US?????

[JHromadka]

Does anyone remember when NBC aired Schindler's List uncut and uncensored? There was plenty of nudity in that movie and nothing came of it.

Movies like these should be made available to American viewers uncensored.

[nredman]

anyone who likes Saving Private Ryan and hasn't seen Band of Brothers needs to rent them today. SPR was on ABC here too, didn't watch it - have it on dvd.

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally posted by macroy:
Please explain? In my book neither is 'wrong' (you can argue that the DJ's remarks were part of his show). So you either let both go, or smack both with a fine.

They are different.

Saving Private Ryan was a film... arguably a piece of art. It was a technically accurate depiction of the events of D Day. Given somewhat "special permission" from the FCC to be aired without being edited. There were numerous warnings about the content and the language. In fact I believe they started EVERY commercial break with the warning.

DJs shouldn't be given that privilege. I would argue that if there was something with a similar context... perhaps a artistic rendition of something that used foul language, it should be permitted... but giving someone like stern free reign of OUR airwaves is ridiculous.

I can't wait to get Stern off the air. I really liked him when I was in college, but over the past few years he has fizzled (then again, perhaps I've grown up a bit). His "Me against the Man" BS is so worn out. He has great parts still... but I end up tuning out when they start in with some of their over the top vulgar stuff. I think his Sirius show is going to fail in less then two years. When he doesn't have "line" not to cross... I think he is going to lose his rebel moniker.

[rezzi]

Originally posted by Xeo:
I don't think I've ever heard that word on network tv before. Weird. I think I'd be set aback a bit. Although with a movie like that, it's not the language I'd worry about if it came down to censoring.

Edit: Axel Rose of Guns N'Roses (Grammys 1991(?). One of the reasons they started using the delayed audio thingy. I was just sitting there telling my friend what a knucklehead that guy is, and--bam! Dropped the f-word twice in 9 seconds. CBS 2, everybody else, 0.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by rezzi:
Edit: Axel Rose of Guns N'Roses (Grammys 1991(?). One of the reasons they started using the delayed audio thingy. I was just sitting there telling my friend what a knucklehead that guy is, and--bam! Dropped the f-word twice in 9 seconds. CBS 2, everybody else, 0.

That wasn't Axl. He was too cool to be there. Slash was the potty mouth.

I remembered that.

He kept doing it on purpose too, drunk as all get out.

First time I heard **** being said on prime time TV.

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by ambush:
Tom Hanks roxx

Good actor yes, but a serious prick.

[BasketofPuppies]

Originally posted by VoicesInMyHead:
So, you can show guys with their guts hanging out, or dismemberment by bombs, all on prime time....

Since when?

[BasketofPuppies]

Originally posted by rezzi:
Axel Rose of Guns N'Roses (Grammys 1991(?).

American Music Awards. 1990, I believe. (Does anyone care about, let alone watch, the American Music Awards?)

And Axl is not, nor has he ever been, cool. Slash is the cool one.

[BasketofPuppies]

Anyway, the FCC has been selectively going after indecency ever since the Super Bowl incident early this year.

Local television and radio stations for the moment fear the FCC's selective indecency fines, but it will pass when they're finally sure that it's being done in such a way so as not to actually change anything.

ABC's affiliates had nothing to worry about. The FCC doesn't have the guts to go after something it has twice before ruled not indecent, especially since the movie was introduced by Senator John McCain this time.

Yes, I know the FCC went after Bono's F-bomb at last year's American Music Awards despite previously ruling it not indecent, but that fits under the FCC's don't do that again when it knew in advance it wasn't going to happen again policy.