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chichow · Jul 29, 2009, 12:54 PM

Kids suck.

So got two noobies. One playing with his sister. <-- so they say.
Sister complains that I shot her (extra splash from shotgun) while I saved her from the Hunter.

So the brother just starts running around shooting me the whole time, because I was being MEAN to his sister.

So P.O.ed. I just quit and went to a new game.

Disappointed since I really only had time for one run through so I didn't want to start from the lvl 1 of another campaign.

Dakar V · Aug 4, 2009, 02:19 PM

Oh you won't give me $60? How about $7?

Stogieman · Aug 4, 2009, 02:42 PM

So will you be giving them $7 in Sept.?

Dakar V · Aug 4, 2009, 02:45 PM

I'll list myself as "unlikely" right now.

Stogieman · Aug 4, 2009, 02:49 PM

Yeah, me too. I'm going consumed with Halo ODST in Sept.

Dakar V · Aug 4, 2009, 02:51 PM

It doesn't come out til late September, though. (ODST)

KCrosbie · Aug 7, 2009, 11:13 AM

Courtesy of VALVE

Crash Course Campaign Due in September

August 4, 2009 - Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Half-Life, Portal, Team Fortress, and Counter-Strike) and leading technologies (such as Steam and Source), today announced the next major downloadable content (DLC) update for its co-operative zombie thriller, Left 4 Dead (L4D), the #1 new game title on Xbox 360 and PC in 2008

Entitled "Crash Course," the latest DLC delivers new single-player, multiplayer and co-operative gameplay to both platforms. Targeted for release in September, "Crash Course" bridges the gap between the end of the "No Mercy" campaign and the beginning of "Death Toll" in the original game, expanding the game universe with new locations, new dialogue from the original cast, and an explosive finale.

While containing both Survival maps and a Co-operative Campaign, the primary goal of "Crash" is to deliver a complete Versus mode experience in just 30 minutes, resulting in a streamlined version of the game's existing Versus campaigns. A recharge timer for infected teammates has also been added, and item spawn behavior has changed for more balanced gameplay.

"Since the release of Left 4 Dead last November, the design team has been excited about creating new experiences for this world and allowing players to do the same, by releasing much of our internal toolset, like the Survival Pack and Authoring Tools," said Gabe Newell. "We're working with the fans toward the ongoing entertainment value of the product."

Left 4 Dead is an action horror game from Valve that blends the social entertainment experience of multiplayer games such as Counter-Strike and Team Fortress with the dramatic, narrative experience made popular in single player action game classics such as the Half-Life series of games. Released in November of 2008, L4D has earned over 50 industry awards from outlets around the world and sold almost 3 million copies worldwide.

Left 4 Dead: Crash Course is targeted for release in September and will be available free of charge on the PC and for 560 Gamer points on Xbox Live.

For more information, please visit www.l4d.com

Why is it free for the PC and cost 560 points on X-box Live? A recharge timer for infected teamates? Not sure what they mean by that. This makes me not want to buy L4D2.

Dakar V · Aug 7, 2009, 11:17 AM

I'm guessing the recharge timer is so you can see where other team mates are with their powers? I've been bitched at before when I've been stanind around with the boomer waiting to puke again.

Also, thank MS for them having to charge.

Chuckit · Aug 7, 2009, 11:22 AM

Yeah, MS doesn't like free content on Xbox Live.

::maroma:: · Aug 7, 2009, 01:32 PM

Isn't it that if a DLC is to have added achievements, you must charge for it? I thought I read that somewhere.

Stupid rule, if that is indeed the case.

Dakar V · Aug 7, 2009, 01:39 PM

Yes, that's true. But I'm sure Valve would abandon them if they could get it out free.

I have to give Valve some credit: I think they managed to get Survivor mode in for free, and most DLC starts priced at $10, but they managed to enter this at $7. They're definitely fighting MS.

The Final Dakar · Sep 30, 2009, 10:31 AM

So, does no one know Crash Course DLC came out or no one cares?

sek929 · Sep 30, 2009, 12:15 PM

If it's free then I care.

The Final Dakar · Sep 30, 2009, 12:18 PM

It's carefree

chichow · Sep 30, 2009, 01:11 PM

steam is also pimping L4D for 15 dollars today.

Left 4 Dead on Steam

The Final Dakar · Sep 30, 2009, 01:15 PM

Haha, 360 users get the DLC for $7, Steam users get the entire game (including that DLC) for only $8 more.

Chuckit · Sep 30, 2009, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

So, does no one know Crash Course DLC came out or no one cares?

I just found out literally 10 minutes ago. But I don't think I'll have time to play it until tomorrow. Bummer.

KCrosbie · Sep 30, 2009, 10:18 PM

Meh, I need to finish ODST before sinking my teeth into some zombie flesh.

KCrosbie · Oct 7, 2009, 11:12 PM

Alright, well I bought the DLC today just for the heck of it. Anyone else getting it? Lemmie know so we can do co-op.

KCrosbie · Oct 21, 2009, 10:23 PM

The achievements for L4D2 have been released

My favorite:

Septic Tank (15G)
Use a bile bomb on a tank.

Sounds cool!

Stogieman · Nov 4, 2009, 07:37 PM

Anyone tryout the L4D2 demo yet?

The Final Dakar · Nov 5, 2009, 12:10 PM

I queued it a few days ago, but I don't know if its actually downloaded yet.

Stogieman · Nov 6, 2009, 11:14 AM

I was going to download it last night but the bastard is 1.6 gigs.

The Final Dakar · Nov 6, 2009, 11:20 AM

Yeah, its a big one. A 'Fatty' if you will.

Mac User #001 · Nov 10, 2009, 03:45 PM

I've tried it. It really did feel like just a new map, though there were a few new trinkets to play with. Killing zombies with a frying pan = WIN.

The Final Dakar · Nov 10, 2009, 03:50 PM

Still haven't bothered. THe demo is probably time-limited too, so i should probably get to it.

Chuckit · Nov 10, 2009, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mac User #001

I've tried it. It really did feel like just a new map, though there were a few new trinkets to play with. Killing zombies with a frying pan = WIN.

Really? You didn't notice the endless stream of jockeys and chargers, as well as the fact that the game literally throws up walls in your way?

Mac User #001 · Nov 10, 2009, 04:19 PM

The Jockeys and Chargers I noticed, and I do rather hate the Jockeys, but I don't know what walls you're talking about.

The Final Dakar · Nov 10, 2009, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Really? You didn't notice the endless stream of jockeys and chargers, as well as the fact that the game literally throws up walls in your way?

I'd love a review of the demo, if you're willing.

Rumor · Nov 10, 2009, 05:10 PM

I really am just not excited about L4D 2. The first one was fun, but the novelty wore off fairly quickly. Also, with my recent purchases of MW2, Borderlands, and Dragon Age; I think I will be occupied for quite some time.

The Final Dakar · Nov 10, 2009, 05:13 PM

Yeah, I've been quite impressed by your past two week video game expenditures.

Demonhood · Nov 10, 2009, 05:17 PM

after limited time with the LFD2 demo: feels like a graphically updated version of LFD1. some new weapons, some new zombies, but essentially the same. the ability to blow the parts off of enemies and the armored zombies are nice touches, but i'm not sure these tweaks necessitated a sequel. i'm sure i'll feel a bit different after a bit more exposure to the new game. i didn't play around too much with melee weapons. the guitar was somewhat satisfying.

Mac User #001 · Nov 10, 2009, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Demonhood

...the ability to blow the parts off of enemies and the armored zombies are nice touches...

I forgot to mention these two parts. The way the zombies blow apart is definitely more satisfying

Rumor · Nov 10, 2009, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Yeah, I've been quite impressed by your past two week video game expenditures.

Are you also impressed with the fact that I have actually been putting some hours in as well?

The Final Dakar · Nov 10, 2009, 05:39 PM

No, that's usually the point.

imitchellg5 · Nov 10, 2009, 06:01 PM

I heart the frying pan and machete. Didn't feel any different than L4D2 however. Nice graphics upgrade though.

Stogieman · Nov 13, 2009, 07:29 PM

Heads up for those of you planning to buy this game. Left 4 Dead 2 is listed at $35 in Best Buy's Black Friday ad. I just may pick it up at that price.

8 games for $35:
Need for Speed: Shift
Dragon Age
Left 4 Dead 2
Brutal Legend (hahaha)
Fifa Soccer 10
Madden 10
NBA & NHL 2K10

imitchellg5 · Nov 14, 2009, 11:40 AM

Sweet deal, thanks for the heads up.

Rumor · Nov 14, 2009, 02:12 PM

At that price, I may pick it up as well.

Demonhood · Nov 14, 2009, 10:28 PM

i got in on a 4pack of the game. so it ended up being $34 for me.

KCrosbie · Nov 15, 2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

8 games for $35:
Need for Speed: Shift
Dragon Age
Left 4 Dead 2
Brutal Legend (hahaha)
Fifa Soccer 10
Madden 10
NBA & NHL 2K10

$35 is a good deal. Hey, if you decide to get it, can you pick me up a copy? I gotta work that day.

Chuckit · Nov 16, 2009, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

I'd love a review of the demo, if you're willing.

Sorry, thought I had responded to this before, but clearly that was bizarrely wrong. If you're still interested, here are my thoughts from playing the demo (somewhat longish, but whatever, feel free to skip the boring parts):

I agree with everyone who says it's a lot like the first game. The core gameplay is very similar. But I mean, I think that's OK in a sequel. Halo 3 was a lot like Halo 2, Marathon 2 was a lot like Marathon 1, Mega Man 9 was a lot like Mega Men 1–8. I liked the original Left 4 Dead, and this plays like a generally improved version of that.

I generally like the new special infected, though I think the jockey is a little bit overpowered in a way I can't fully explain. Both he and the charger are essentially variations on the hunter, but where a hunter can be swatted away or headshotted while he's going in for the pounce, the jockey seems to magically teleport 10 feet onto your back as soon as you look at him. It's a weird mechanic, but I guess it's to make up for the fact that he doesn't have the hunter's insane walking speed. Even with his creepy shamble, he still manages to get the drop a lot. I like both the charger and the spitter. They do a good job of keeping the game from turning into a straightforward turtlefest where you can just sit there meleeing until your trigger finger falls off, but they're limited enough that they don't negate the teamwork aspect of the game.

The new weapons are a mixed bag. The actual primary weapons featured in the demo are essentially the same as L4D. There are technically more of them, but most of them are so similar that it works out to basically the same set of guns. The melee weapons are much cooler. There's just something satisfying about smacking zombies in the face with a guitar. The melee weapons are the biggest change to the gameplay IMO. Knowing when to go melee and when to keep your gun ready is key. They're really useful for, for example, fighting off boomer hordes.

I definitely plan to get it. I've already got a party lined up.

sek929 · Nov 16, 2009, 07:55 PM

All I have to say is God Damn this current gaming gen, far to many awesome games.

I wish I had a Wii so I could get a breather from awesome games once and a while.

KCrosbie · Nov 16, 2009, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by sek929

All I have to say is God Damn this current gaming gen, far to many awesome games.

Seriously. I haven't seen this many great games since the 16 bit era. Video games rule!

Mac User #001 · Nov 17, 2009, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by sek929

I wish I had a Wii so I could get a breather from awesome games once and a while.

And it's true. I pretty much only get first party games on my Wii with a few exceptions. Gonna be picking up New Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario Galaxy 2, but otherwise the only games I might consider are Modern Warfare Reflex and MadWorld, which I should have had a long time ago anyways.

The Final Dakar · Nov 17, 2009, 10:59 AM

I imagine that deal will be in-store only.

I'm too lazy to shop anywhere but amazon – if they put it on special, I'll think about it.

Mac User #001 · Nov 17, 2009, 11:41 AM

I'm still not really a big Amazon user. Something about buying video games from a shelf keeps me coming back to it. I've only ever made two digital purchases either, and both recently. Dragon Age and L4D2, both on Steam.

The Final Dakar · Nov 17, 2009, 11:42 AM

...do you think Amazon is digital distribution or something?

Mac User #001 · Nov 17, 2009, 11:44 AM

God no.

I was just making the comment that I usually only ever buy from the shelf.

The Final Dakar · Nov 17, 2009, 11:47 AM

Okay. Just curious whats so great about it over Amazon. Other than for release day purchases, of course.