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Eug · Sep 10, 2003, 08:54 PM

Macromedia Flash Player 7 is now out. MUCH faster than version 6.

Benchmark:
Version 6 - 69 fps
Version 7 - 101 fps

The few flash sites I've tried are quite smooth. (TiBook 1 GHz Radeon 9000.)

It seems that this update is the real deal.

Ratm · Sep 10, 2003, 09:20 PM

And don't forget to download the stand alone player....I save flash games to my HD and the speed improvement is remarkable.
http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/downloads.html

iBook 600mhz Panther 7b49
version 6 59
version 7 61

significant improvement...

Eug · Sep 10, 2003, 09:33 PM

Are you sure didn't install the 7 beta last month? 60 fps is already pretty good for an iBook 600. I was only getting 69 with Version 6 with my GHz TiBook. I think I had it plugged in then so it should have been at max performance. I'm running X.2.6 Jag. BTW, I ran it again and this time only got 92, but that's still better than the 69 before.

Here is the Roxio Toast Flash demo which is supposed to be quite slow on some systems.

Ratm · Sep 10, 2003, 09:56 PM

I wasn't trying to be sarcastic, it just came out that way

. Flash playback on this iBook is much improved over the last non beta version; I had forgotten that I did install the pervious beta so there wasn't much of a difference this time round. The roxio demo was smooth and quick, not choppy at all.

dole · Sep 10, 2003, 10:12 PM

I didn't do this benchmark with version 6 because I didn't know it existed. I did a benchmark with my 800Mhz iBook and on my PC with a AMD Athlon XP 2400+ to compare.

iBook 800 - 77fps
Athlon XP 2400+ - 225fps

DeathMan · Sep 10, 2003, 10:25 PM

I only got 48 frames per second a dual 500 mhz. Doh. Thats with version 6, though.

Eug · Sep 10, 2003, 10:38 PM

iBook 800 - 77fps
Athlon XP 2400+ - 225fps

What vid card with the Athlon? Anyways, I'm guessing something like 77 fps would be good enough for current Flash stuff, but 30 on this test would not.

I only got 48 frames per second a dual 500 mhz. Doh. Thats with version 6, though.

Update and try it again with version 7. Check that Roxio demo first though. What vid card?

dole · Sep 10, 2003, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by Eug:
What vid card with the Athlon?

The orginal Geforce 3. Not one of the Ti500 cards.

nobitacu · Sep 10, 2003, 11:41 PM

Downloading it now to see if it will fix the stupid MLB.com Gameday Live program.

Ming

Diggory Laycock · Sep 11, 2003, 06:33 AM

I just noticed something (not sure if it is new to version 7) - you can tab between UI elements in flash movies - see here:

http://www.fox.com/24/profiles.html

gorickey · Sep 11, 2003, 08:22 AM

While not seeing 'dramatic' differences or speed increases...I can't complain about the upgrade.

version · Sep 11, 2003, 09:06 AM

36 fps on a 400mhz Pismo, no bad considering I got 16 fps before.

Eug · 09:21 AM

36 fps on a 400mhz Pismo, no bad considering I got 16 fps before.

That's pretty impressive.

Resummarized with new info:

Benchmark.

Pismo G3 400 MHz, 8 MB Rage Mobility 128
Version 6 - 16 fps
Version 7 - 36 fps (46 with other apps closed)

TiBook G4 1 GHz, 64 MB Radeon 9000
Version 6 - 69 fps
Version 7 - 101 fps

Pentium 4 1.6 GHz, 16 MB Rage 128 Pro (Win NT4)
Version 6 - 104 fps (I think it was version 6, but I'm not 100% sure.)
Version 7 - 147 fps

(Ratm's numbers don't count because he was comparing against Flash Player 7 beta.)

For real-life usage both the TiBook and the Pentium 4 both seem quite adequate now. This was not always the case with the TiBook previously though.

version · Sep 11, 2003, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Eug:
That's pretty impressive.

Well, you might not believe this, but I decided to run the benchmark again, but this time I closed all my open applications so that only Safari was running, and I got a score of 46.

This is quite nice. The GFX card in the pismo is the ati rage mobile, i think.

Cheers Eug for the summary.

voodoo · Oct 12, 2003, 01:59 PM

How do you install the new Flash player for Safari?

Gul Banana · Oct 12, 2003, 02:30 PM

Omniweb 4.5, 1GHz G4.
Before: 65 fps
After: 91 fps
I am Impressed.

Oneota · Oct 12, 2003, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by voodoo:
How do you install the new Flash player for Safari?

The installer should put it in /Library/Internet Plugins, which installs it for all browsers.

Eug Wanker · Oct 12, 2003, 08:15 PM

Hmmm.. In X.2 it varied between about 90 and 100.

I consistently get 89-91 in X.3.

Anand · Oct 12, 2003, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by Eug:
That's pretty impressive.

Resummarized with new info:

Benchmark.

Pismo G3 400 MHz, 8 MB Rage Mobility 128
Version 6 - 16 fps
Version 7 - 36 fps (46 with other apps closed)

TiBook G4 1 GHz, 64 MB Radeon 9000
Version 6 - 69 fps
Version 7 - 101 fps

Pentium 4 1.6 GHz, 16 MB Rage 128 Pro (Win NT4)
Version 6 - 104 fps (I think it was version 6, but I'm not 100% sure.)
Version 7 - 147 fps

(Ratm's numbers don't count because he was comparing against Flash Player 7 beta.)

For real-life usage both the TiBook and the Pentium 4 both seem quite adequate now. This was not always the case with the TiBook previously though.

On a 1 Ghz Tibook running Panther I get 85-88 FPS. Are you running Jaguar or panther?

Eug · Oct 12, 2003, 09:55 PM

See above.

X.2 91-101 fps
X.3 89-91 fps

Anand · Oct 12, 2003, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Eug:
See above.

X.2 91-101 fps
X.3 89-91 fps

Woops! I missed that!

mrfrost · Oct 13, 2003, 07:51 AM

29 fps on a G4/400 with 32 MB vram. (10.2.6)
Not all that great really.

Anand · Oct 13, 2003, 09:33 AM

On a 1.6 Ghz G5 with 1.25 GB ram I got 88 FPS in with flash 6 and 114 with flash 7. This is in 10.2.8.

dr. zoidberg · Oct 13, 2003, 11:23 AM

i really don�t know why, but from what i�ve seen flash player 7 pretty much sux in panther/safari ... ?? did anyone else get similar impressions?

Eug Wanker · Oct 13, 2003, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by dr. zoidberg:
i really don�t know why, but from what i�ve seen flash player 7 pretty much sux in panther/safari ... ?? did anyone else get similar impressions?

Works well for me.

Powaqqatsi · Oct 13, 2003, 12:41 PM

How do you mesure fps ?

Eug Wanker · Oct 13, 2003, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
How do you mesure fps ?

Check out the first message.

Powaqqatsi · Oct 13, 2003, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Check out the first message.

Sorry my bad.

I got 95fps on my PowerBook 867Mhz. (Flash 7) With Camino. I tested it in safari and I got 85fps.

bigjongalt · Oct 28, 2003, 08:31 PM

I got a decent performance jump:

6 - 38 fps
7 - 50 fps

====================

This is in Safari on 10.2.8 on my 400mhz Yikes! G4 - 512 MB memory.

snerdini · Oct 28, 2003, 08:57 PM

47 fps - ver. 7,0,14,0

iBook 800 : 640MB RAM

Sorry, don't have anything to compare to - already installed 7 before I saw this thread

Anand · Oct 29, 2003, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Anand:
On a 1 Ghz Tibook running Panther I get 85-88 FPS. Are you running Jaguar or panther?

On a 1.6 G5 running panther I get 74 FPS with flash 6 and 87 with flash 7. I must say, most things I have done just confirm my 1Gz tibook being faster than my G5. I would never have imagined how much of a dog the 1.6 Ghz G5 really is.

voodoo · Oct 29, 2003, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Ratm:
And don't forget to download the stand alone player....

Where on that page is such a player?

passmaster16 · Oct 30, 2003, 12:03 AM

Is there something wrong with my setup? I wouldn't have expected the dual 867 to be only 5 fps faster. I performed both tests in safari with all other apps closed.

My tests using Flash 7

MDD 867, 2gb Ram, Radeon 9000 64mb, 10.2.8
58 fps

600mhz ibook, 640mb Ram, ATI Rage 8mb, 10.3
53 fps

To be fair, the ibook was just freshly loaded with 10.3 but still I would have expected my MDD to pound my ibook, the difference in video memory alone would make me figure to at least get 70 fps on the MDD. Any idea what is causing this or is my MDD really this slow when it comes to flash?

Anand · Nov 5, 2003, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by Anand:
On a 1.6 G5 running panther I get 74 FPS with flash 6 and 87 with flash 7. I must say, most things I have done just confirm my 1Gz tibook being faster than my G5. I would never have imagined how much of a dog the 1.6 Ghz G5 really is.

I just tried it again and I now get 122 FPS with flash 7. I have found a fix for those slow G5 machines!

AliP · Nov 5, 2003, 04:10 PM

48 FPS on iMac G3 600 with flash 7 and Panther.
Is this good or bad?
Also i can't seem to find the standalone player can someone post the link please.
KRO
Ali P