[Laminar]

What are you?

I'm an INTJ.

INTJ's tremendous value and need for systems and organization, combined with their natural insightfulness, makes them excellent scientists. An INTJ scientist gives a gift to society by putting their ideas into a useful form for others to follow.

INTJs are ambitious, self-confident, deliberate, long-range thinkers. Many INTJs end up in engineering or scientific pursuits

INTJs are natural leaders, although they usually choose to remain in the background until they see a real need to take over the lead. When they are in leadership roles, they are quite effective, because they are able to objectively see the reality of a situation, and are adaptable enough to change things which aren't working well.

INTJs spend a lot of time inside their own minds, and may have little interest in the other people's thoughts or feelings.

This is me exactly.

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

[Atheist]

I've never taken a Myers-Briggs test before. It says I'm a ISTJ. From what I read, it seems pretty close:

ISTJs are often called inspectors. They have a keen sense of right and wrong, especially in their area of interest and/or responsibility. They are noted for devotion to duty. Punctuality is a watchword of the ISTJ.

As do other Introverted Thinkers, ISTJs often give the initial impression of being aloof and perhaps somewhat cold. Effusive expression of emotional warmth is not something that ISTJs do without considerable energy loss.

They seem to perform at highest efficiency when employing a step-by-step approach. Once a new procedure has proven itself (i.e., has been shown "to work,") the ISTJ can be depended upon to carry it through, even at the expense of their own health.

This is so true:

ISTJs are easily frustrated by the inconsistencies of others, especially when the second parties don't keep their commitments. But they usually keep their feelings to themselves unless they are asked. And when asked, they don't mince words. Truth wins out over tact.

It misses the mark here however:

His SJ orientation draws the ISTJ into the service of established institutions. Home, social clubs, government, schools, the military, churches -- these are the bastions of the SJ. "We've always done it this way" is often reason enough for many ISTJs. Threats to time-honored traditions or established organizations (e.g., a "run" on the bank) are the undoing of SJs, and are to be fought at all costs.

I'm not particularly enamored by institutions... I generally find them tedious and inefficient.

[Hg2491]

I am also an ISTJ. All the descriptions fit my personality perfectly.

One thing though, what can the four types be?

[Yose]

Enfp

[Hg2491]

Answering my own question:

The first criterion, Extraversion - Introversion defines the source and direction of energy expression for a person. The extravert has a source and direction of energy expression mainly in the external world while the introvert has a source of energy mainly in the internal world.

The second criterion, Sensing - INntuition defines the method of information perception by a person. Sensing means that a person believes mainly information he or she receives directly from the external world. Intuition means that a person believes mainly information he or she receives from the internal or imaginative world.

The third criterion, Thinking - Feeling defines how the person processes information. Thinking means that a person makes a decision mainly through logic. Feeling means that, as a rule, he or she makes a decision based on emotion.

The fourth criterion, Judging - Perceiving defines how a person implements the information he or she has processed. Judging means that a person organizes all his life events and acts strictly according to his plans. Perceiving means that he or she is inclined to improvise and seek alternatives.

The different combinations of the criteria determine a type. There may be sixteen types. Every type has a name (or formula) according to the combination of criteria...

[mania]

ENTP but barely and N and 100%T with 0%F creepy yeah.

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by Laminar 

What are you?

I'm an INTJ.

I'm an INTJ. I post here to avoid becoming a shut-in.

I've taken the full version of Birkman as well as a feedback assessment and whether I like it or not, they're all saying pretty much the same thing. I wondered about Birkman though because it seemed to me that a measure of stress-reactions could be contingent upon a wealth of variables. It's a good measure of where you are though.

[RAILhead]

Infj.

[Railroader]

Entj

qualitative analysis of your type formula

you are:
Moderately expressed extravert
moderately expressed intuitive personality
slightly expressed thinking personality
slightly expressed judging personality

[brassplayersrock²]

Your Type is: ISTP

You are:

* distinctively expressed introvert
* slightly expressed sensing personality
* moderately expressed thinking personality
* slightly expressed perceiving personality

alrighty

[Laminar]

Here's some more interesting info, just replace the four letters in the address line with your own.

http://www.personalitypage.com/INTJ_rel.html

Sexually, the INTJ enjoys thinking about intimacy, and about ways to perfect it. In positive relationships, their creativity and intensity shine through in this arena. In more negative relationships, they might enjoy thinking about sex more than actually doing it.

INTJs are usually difficult to get to know well, and difficult to get close to. Those who are close to the INTJ will highly value them for their ideas and knowledge. Although INTJs are generally very serious-minded people, they also have been known to enjoy letting loose and having fun, if others pull them into it. They also can be really good at telling jokes, and exhibiting a sarcastic wit with a poker face.

Once again, exactly me.

The INTJ is not likely to choose to spend time with people who they feel don't have anything to offer the INTJ. They especially like to spend time with other Intuitive Thinkers, and also usually enjoy the company of Intuitive Feelers. These personality types love to theorize and speculate about ideas, and so can usually relate well to the INTJ, who loves to analyze ideas.

One of my closest friends (also my roommate) is an ISFP, and we definitely do the whole "speculate about ideas" thing all the time.

Many INTJs believe that they are always right. In some INTJs, this belief is quite obvious, while in others it is more subtle. Some people may have a difficult time accepting what they see as a "superior attitude" or "snobbery".

Spot on.

[phantomdragonz]

I took a myers briggs in psychology class in highschool... I was en ENTP or was it ENTJ?

all my friends where surprised I was an E and not an I... made sense to me though...

-Zach

[Jawbone54]

I'm an INFP. Very odd...it seems to strike very close to home.

[Jawbone54]

Strengths:
Warmly concerned and caring towards others
Sensitive and perceptive about what others are feeling
Loyal and committed - they want lifelong relationships
Deep capacity for love and caring
Driven to meet other's needs
Strive for "win-win" situations
Nurturing, supportive and encouraging
Likely to recognize and appreciate other's need for space
Able to express themselves well
Flexible and diverse

Weaknesses:
May tend to be shy and reserved
Don't like to have their "space" invaded
Extreme dislike of conflict
Extreme dislike of criticism
Strong need to receive praise and positive affirmation
May react very emotionally to stressful situations
Have difficulty leaving a bad relationship
Have difficulty scolding or punishing others
Tend to be reserved about expressing their feelings
Perfectionistic tendancies may cause them to not give themselves enough credit
Tendency to blame themselves for problems, and hold everything on their own shoulders

[Jawbone54]

Another good site to find details about your personality: My Personality

[red rocket]

INTJ.

Also known as ‘mastermind type’. Recommended careers include librarian and computer programmer.

Pretty accurate, I say. I do enjoy analysing and optimising complex systems, and am also an arrogant, superior bastard.

[brassplayersrock²]

fun times

ISTP Career Matches

ISTPs are often happy with the following jobs which tend to match well with the Craftsman/Creator personality.

* Athlete
* Business Analyst
* Carpenter
* Computer Programmer
* Computer Specialist
* Construction Worker
* Dental Hygienist
* Detective
* Driver
* Electrical Engineer
* Engineer



* Entrepreneur
* Farmer
* Firefighter
* Forensic Pathologist
* Human Resources
* Marketer
* Mechanic
* Military
* Motorcyclist
* Paramedic/EMT
* Pilot



* Police
* Probation Officer
* Project Manager
* Sales Representative
* Scientist
* Steelworker
* Systems Analyst
* Technical Specialist
* Transportation Operative

[BadKosh]

INTJ here! 92 on the "I" part...

[KeyLimePi]

I like Meyers-Briggs and we actually use it at work, but I always wonder how much of its 'accuracy' can be attributed to the Forer effect.

[Eug]

Yeah. It reminds me of horoscopes.

It must be my pragmatic yet overly analytical personality. Oh wait...

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² 

fun times

Detective?

Cool...

[finboy]

Originally Posted by KeyLimePi 

I like Meyers-Briggs and we actually use it at work, but I always wonder how much of its 'accuracy' can be attributed to the Forer effect.

Yep, I've used it, studied it, and spoofed it. Given how easy it is to spoof, I'd imagine the Forer effect is pretty dominant.

[Love Calm Quiet]

Forer effect? Actually, there's a lot of sophisticated research on the Myers-Briggs (MBTI) and documenting the differences between people who test in various profiles.

Actually, I find a lot of the online material about it rather shallow. I like best the book, "Type Talk" - written by national authorities but with humor and not taking selves too seriously.

When it's most useful is used as a means of understanding how to style your communication so as to have best chance that the recipient (whether co-worker, date, etc) will be able to relate to it.

Personally, I recommend starting with "groking" the differences between the types of each dimension ( Intro vs Extravert; Feeler vs. Thinker, etc.). And for the MBTI these terms do NOT mean anything like the common, casual usage. And they don't mean that you have to hang with only your type - just that you'll find relationships easier when you understand *why* someone drives you crazy (or you them). As another MBTI book title says, "I'm Not Crazy: I'm just not you!"

FWIW: Another sophisticated typology that addresses completely different dimensions from the MBTI is the Enneagram. When doing group-process work, it's amazing how much interaction is facilitated when people understand where everybody's coming from on both MBTI & Enneagram.

Happy explorations!

PS: JawBone54: interesting to find another INFP here: I'd expect them to be less geeky than the average MacNNer (but then, this is the Lounge; and your profile mentions pastor/photographer). But then a moniker like LoveCalmQuiet is should raise suspicions of INFP
PPS: If you check out Enneagram, it'll be interesting to see how many score as "5" - which is So much a place for IT (infotech) folks.

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by Love Calm Quiet 

Forer effect? Actually, there's a lot of sophisticated research on the Myers-Briggs (MBTI) and documenting the differences between people who test in various profiles.

...

When it's most useful is used as a means of understanding how to style your communication so as to have best chance that the recipient (whether co-worker, date, etc) will be able to relate to it.

Agreed. My wife and I fit our two results perfectly. It's actually kind of frightening how accurate it was for both of us (She's an ESTJ).

When my wife and I read and study this together, it gives insight into our treatment of each other (just as you said, really). In many ways, it makes me love her more than ever, since it allows for a better understanding of what makes her act and think the way she does.

PS: JawBone54: interesting to find another INFP here: I'd expect them to be less geeky than the average MacNNer (but then, this is the Lounge; and your profile mentions pastor/photographer). But then a moniker like LoveCalmQuiet is should raise suspicions of INFP
PPS: If you check out Enneagram, it'll be interesting to see how many score as "5" - which is So much a place for IT (infotech) folks.

*fist bump*

Remember...we are the 2%.

My wife and I laughed when we read that recommended jobs included minister, church worker, photographer, artist, writer, journalist, teacher...all of which are professions that I have either already been involved with or began training for. My majors have switched from English to Journalism to History to Psychology to English to Political Science and back to English (if I remember correctly).

[- - e r i k - -]

Your Type is
ENFP

Code:
Extraverted	Intuitive	Feeling		 Perceiving
11		 25 	 	 12 	 	 33

Idealist Portrait of the Champion (ENFP)
Like the other Idealists, Champions are rather rare, say two or three percent of the population, but even more than the others they consider intense emotional experiences as being vital to a full life. Champions have a wide range and variety of emotions, and a great passion for novelty. They see life as an exciting drama, pregnant with possibilities for both good and evil, and they want to experience all the meaningful events and fascinating people in the world. The most outgoing of the Idealists, Champions often can't wait to tell others of their extraordinary experiences. Champions can be tireless in talking with others, like fountains that bubble and splash, spilling over their own words to get it all out. And usually this is not simple storytelling; Champions often speak (or write) in the hope of revealing some truth about human experience, or of motivating others with their powerful convictions. Their strong drive to speak out on issues and events, along with their boundless enthusiasm and natural talent with language, makes them the most vivacious and inspiring of all the types.

Fiercely individualistic, Champions strive toward a kind of personal authenticity, and this intention always to be themselves is usually quite attractive to others. At the same time, Champions have outstanding intuitive powers and can tell what is going on inside of others, reading hidden emotions and giving special significance to words or actions. In fact, Champions are constantly scanning the social environment, and no intriguing character or silent motive is likely to escape their attention. Far more than the other Idealists, Champions are keen and probing observers of the people around them, and are capable of intense concentration on another individual. Their attention is rarely passive or casual. On the contrary, Champions tend to be extra sensitive and alert, always ready for emergencies, always on the lookout for what's possible.

Champions are good with people and usually have a wide range of personal relationships. They are warm and full of energy with their friends. They are likable and at ease with colleagues, and handle their employees or students with great skill. They are good in public and on the telephone, and are so spontaneous and dramatic that others love to be in their company. Champions are positive, exuberant people, and often their confidence in the goodness of life and of human nature makes good things happen.

Joan Baez, Phil Donahue, Paul Robeson, Bill Moyer, Elizibeth Cady Stanton, Joeseph Campbell, Edith Wharton, Sargent Shriver, Charles Dickens, and Upton Sinclair are examples of Idealist Champions

I can deal with that. Speaks directly to my ego

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally Posted by Yose 

Enfp

Another 2%er? *fist bump*

[- - e r i k - -]

Forer effect be damned, this is shockingly accurate:

http://www.personalitypage.com/ENFP.html

Maybe there is something to this typology mumbo jumbo after all?

[Jawbone54]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - 

Another 2%er? *fist bump*

Don't steal my fist bump, Aussie.

[Jawbone54]

We've analyzed my entire family now, and everyone fit perfectly.

Screw the Forer Effect.

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 

Don't steal my fist bump, Aussie.

Yours was a terrorist fist bump!

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by red rocket 

INTJ.

Also known as ‘mastermind type’. Recommended careers include librarian and computer programmer.

Pretty accurate, I say. I do enjoy analysing and optimising complex systems, and am also an arrogant, superior bastard.

Alas, our differences are indeed our similarities.

[Hugi]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - 

Your Type is ENFP

I can deal with that. Speaks directly to my ego

Exactly! ENFP Champion here, and whew - my ego feels like it just had an orgasm.

[Dakar V]

I have to say i was less than impressed with my results the other night, but I'll try it again here at work.

[Laminar]

My INTJ result was after taking it a year or so ago. I just retook it this week and got an ISTP. Characteristics of both fit me, but I think INTJ is closer. Although:

ISTPs have a compelling drive to understand the way things work. They're good at logical analysis, and like to use it on practical concerns. They typically have strong powers of reasoning, although they're not interested in theories or concepts unless they can see a practical application. They like to take things apart and see the way they work.
At ISTPs have an adventuresome spirit. They are attracted to motorcycles, airplanes, sky diving, surfing, etc. They thrive on action, and are usually fearless. ISTPs are fiercely independent, needing to have the space to make their own decisions about their next step.

[Dakar V]

This totally isn't doing it for me. I've looked over a few of the profiles, and I feel like a few sentences from each could describe me, and the rest is rubbish.

[Laminar]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

This totally isn't doing it for me. I've looked over a few of the profiles, and I feel like a few sentences from each could describe me, and the rest is rubbish.

If you have Facebook, I'd suggest getting the MyType app and taking that assessment - it's much more in-depth than the one I posted. I didn't actually take the one I used, I just posted it for convenience.

[Dakar V]

Well, I think the issue is I'm a fairly inconsistent person. There's several questions where I could go either way.

[Laminar]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

Well, I think the issue is I'm a fairly inconsistent person. There's several questions where I could go either way.

The Facebook version isn't yes or no questions, each question is on a scale of 1-5, so you could go 3 if you were indifferent. It also has another section to it.

[Dakar V]

Maybe I'll hit it up later, when I'm bored.

I just retook the test, flicking any question I thought I could go either way on the other way, and I feel much more comfortable with the new result, though it's still much more serious and "down to business" than I actually am.

(Went from a ISTP to a ISTJ)

[Dakar V]

Heh, I read the entry from the other site and disagree with it.

And what's with the awful career choices for like, all of the personality types?

[Laminar]

What? I think "motorcyclist" is a fantastic career choice.

[Dakar V]

Race car driver was the only one I really thought was ok.

[Laminar]

My roommate is majoring in graphic design, and is an ISFP. His top three suggested careers are:
-Artist
-Musician / Composer
-Designer

It fits him well.

[Dakar V]

That'd make a lot more sense than anything I've seen (except the music part).

[zro]

Pro Tip™ - /Applications/iChat


I took it on my iPhone the other day and e-mailed the result page to myself. Must've been the wrong page because there were no results and I just can't be bothered to wade through it again. But I think it was INTP...

[Dakar V]

Originally Posted by zro 

Pro Tip™ - /Applications/iChat

If only the thread starter would weigh in and chastise us for taking over his thread.

[Laminar]

I AM MILDLY DISCONCERTED. all caps

[Dakar V]

Disconcertion level yellow?

[Laminar]

Marigold.

[Dakar V]

Your sig looks like its about to crash into mine.