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Nai no Kami
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Sep 19, 2002, 02:39 PM
 
Most Mac users also appreciate aesthetics. I would then like to discuss if you believe that there is such a thing as good and bad taste. Is it something absolutely subjective or, on the contrary, it is something objective and independent from the observer?
What do you think?

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Sep 19, 2002, 03:03 PM
 
no

I think Good and Bad taste are entirely subjective. Really depends on the time and place.

In the US...

An orange shag rug or velvet paintaing may have been considered by most people to be good taste in the 70s, bad taste in the 80s, questionable taste in the 90s, and good taste again in the 00s.

In another country, who knows? Maybe the polar opposite per decade for the same object.
     
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Sep 19, 2002, 03:05 PM
 
But of course there is good and bad taste, how can you tell? what YOU like is good taste, what the other guy likes is BAD taste.

     
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Sep 19, 2002, 03:16 PM
 
Arrrgh Maytee! That Salty Dog John Waters's films (especially the pre-Hairspray ones) are all celebrations of universally unequivocal bad taste. Ya need look no further for evidence. Q.E.D.

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Sep 19, 2002, 03:27 PM
 
Taste is socially constructed.

Taste is related to class.

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Sep 19, 2002, 03:28 PM
 
Watch the ending theme sequence of the anime Excel Saga. Then listen to the full version of the song.

Then come back and tell me with a straight face there's no such thing as bad taste.
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Sep 19, 2002, 03:51 PM
 
Not only does it exists, but it has been exeplified by the GUI designers of Windows XP.
     
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Sep 19, 2002, 04:04 PM
 
Bah, I forgot. Bad taste does exist.

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Nai no Kami  (op)
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Sep 19, 2002, 05:46 PM
 
Could we conclude that in art (even in design) it is impossible to tell what is good and what is bad?. Does it always depend on the observer?.
What about Kandinsky's writings?
Has anyone read "Apocaliptici e integratti" (I don�t know the translation in English, because I read it in Spanish, so I posted the original title in Italian) by Umberto Eco?
I would like to assimilate the concept of bad taste to the concept of "Kitsch".
Whereas I believe that the eye and the social surrounding of the observer is mostly the responsible of determining what is good and what is bad taste, I also believe that we can find some very basic guidelines about what is good and what is bad taste. What I will not discuss, however, is that you may like "bad-tasted" things or works, but that doesn't change their essence.
So, is good and bad taste tied to what you like or not?. Are the notions of good and bad taste tied to how good or bad (in terms of "quality") a work is?
And I also think while I type: If you may like something or not whether it is good or bad taste... what's the point of the existence of such concepts, then?
I personally like classical music, but I dislike Opera while I aknowledge they are terrific works of art...

I am not so sure about the "inexistence" of good and bad taste.

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