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Doc Juansinn · Nov 14, 2007, 05:16 PM

Just noticed this. So, who's gonna be the first to say how snappy it is? Have fun.

angelmb · Nov 14, 2007, 06:37 PM

Safari 3 yay!

Koralatov · Nov 14, 2007, 07:49 PM

It's "teh snappy", and it runs like a dream. I've had it a whole ten minutes and no issues so far. Obviously, this is a testament to the superiority of Macs!

Kenneth · Nov 14, 2007, 08:00 PM

Finally!

fisherKing · Nov 14, 2007, 08:17 PM

10.4?? are people still running that?

besson3c · Nov 14, 2007, 08:22 PM

I wonder if this version has iTunes scrollbars in the Finder?

dru · Nov 14, 2007, 08:23 PM

No problems here so far. And no, besson3c, no scrollbar change. Why would they? This is a Tiger update.

MindFad · Nov 14, 2007, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

I wonder if this version has iTunes scrollbars in the Finder?

.Neo · Nov 14, 2007, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

I wonder if this version has iTunes scrollbars in the Finder?

It really came as a shock to me it didn't! Let's go forth and start multiple threads about the issue on different forums and post how disappointed we are and how much Apple and Mac OS X suck.

imitchellg5 · Nov 14, 2007, 11:28 PM

It's very snappy. My PowerBook feels new (867 MHz with 640 Mb of RAM). Safari 3 seems a bit faster than it did in Leopard. Pretty sweet.

SpaceMonkey · Nov 15, 2007, 12:43 AM

I think I got an extra MHz!

No problems here after upgrade.

outthere · Nov 15, 2007, 12:52 AM

safari keeps quiting here. and it's frustrating

superfletch · Nov 15, 2007, 12:58 AM

When I go up to the apple menu and click on "about this macintosh" it takes like three minutes for the window to pop up...

Mac User #001 · Nov 15, 2007, 03:59 PM

Nothing really seems faster, but nothing too bad has happened yet either.

There's Safari 3.0.4's "Show all bookmarks." section. They changed the sidebar with All RSS Feeds and History and Bonjour, and I just don't like it. Plus it doesn't show everything when I open it in a smaller window than normal. I've got to drag the frame right a little to show all the words. Can't say for sure if this happened in previous versions.

SSharon · Nov 15, 2007, 05:33 PM

I'll pay Apple $100 if this update means my MDD can finally sleep (and wake up) properly.

Koralatov · Nov 15, 2007, 05:51 PM

Bleh. It appears to have made my iBook slow. Damn. I'll have to look into it just to make sure it's not something else, but I'll be pretty gutted if it is...

chris v · Nov 15, 2007, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by .Neo

It really came as a shock to me it didn't! Let's go forth and start multiple threads about the issue on different forums and post how disappointed we are and how much Apple and Mac OS X suck.

Better yet, an online petition!

Mac User #001 · Nov 15, 2007, 10:52 PM

Another update, to Safari.

It automatically adjusts the size of text boxes so you don't have a scroll bar. As far as I can tell, it gets bigger, and bigger, and bigger, and bigger. Then if you delete it all, it shrinks down to fit whatever is left.

besson3c · Nov 15, 2007, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Mac User #001

Another update, to Safari.

It automatically adjusts the size of text boxes so you don't have a scroll bar. As far as I can tell, it gets bigger, and bigger, and bigger, and bigger. Then if you delete it all, it shrinks down to fit whatever is left.

I would hope that, if you're right, it would respect CSS textarea declarations, or else this behavior could potentially be quite problematic.

TETENAL · Nov 15, 2007, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by outthere

safari keeps quiting here. and it's frustrating

InputManagers
APE

Mac User #001 · Nov 16, 2007, 12:54 AM

Again, Safari goodies.

Man, Its worth the 10.4.11 upgrade for Safari alone!

Finally! Safari now shrinks images to fit your screen, and you click them to view them in their original size. A must for my small iBook screen.

MindFad · Nov 16, 2007, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by chris v

Better yet, an online petition!

Whoooa, slow down, Texas. Online petitions are serious business and no laughing matter.

Where do I dign?

Sijmen · 06:40 AM

Installing Now...

Edit: Everything went smooth. I'm missing something in my menu bar though, but I can't figure out what.

Dougmc · Nov 16, 2007, 11:02 AM

I'm having problems with my Adobe software unexpectedly quitting on me now — just since updating.

Acrobat Pro as well as all my CS2 apps.

I've double checked my fonts to make sure that something hasn't happened there; but I'm not finding anything as of yet that might be the cause. The only new thing that I have added to this machine in the past few days has been this system update.

EndlessMac · Nov 16, 2007, 01:45 PM

I've installed it and haven't really seen any problems as of yet. I did noticed that my startup is a little slower but so far things seem ok.

Kenneth · Nov 16, 2007, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by SSharon

I'll pay Apple $100 if this update means my MDD can finally sleep (and wake up) properly.

What do you mean? My MDD didn't have trouble for that.

Mac User #001 · Nov 16, 2007, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by EndlessMac

I've installed it and haven't really seen any problems as of yet. I did noticed that my startup is a little slower but so far things seem ok.

I noticed that too.

hbone · Nov 17, 2007, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by fisherKing

10.4?? are people still running that?

Leopard is missing a lot of functions that available in tiger 10.4.xx Everything is listed on the Apple site, but is not included in Leopard.

DewD · Nov 17, 2007, 01:43 PM

Beforer you'all get joyous over the 10.4.11 update, be it known it disable Pith Helmet in Safari. No ad blocking for now. PithHelmet Not only will it not load, the latest version 2.7 released just a few days ( including a beta for Leopard) will not even install, even though the Safari version is identical 3.0.4....huh?

This is apparently due to some new facet of SIMBL. The developer is aware PH won;t work under " 11" but he's gone walkabout for a few days and a fix won;t be available for a while.

Damn . I love PithHelmet for its ability to wipe away all those annoying Flash and Java and banners and peels . White space rules. In the meantime, I browse in Frefox 2.0.0.9 with the also-excellent AdBlock

Eug · Nov 17, 2007, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by angelmb

Safari 3 yay!

Safari 3 boo!

I'm sticking with 10.4.10 for quite some time on my main machine.

Kevin · Nov 17, 2007, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by DewD

Beforer you'all get joyous over the 10.4.11 update, be it known it disable Pith Helmet in Safari. No ad blocking for now. P

Does NO ONE know about SafariBlock? It works in 10.4.11 and 10.5 with both Safari's.

Sijmen · 01:16 AM

Weird thing is happening here. For some reason osx doesn't allow apps to start after an x-amount of time. Right now I wanted to mount an .img with toast. When I clicked on the Toast icon it just bounced and bounced and bounced until it got fed-up with itself and went into a slump.
I can't boot anything now. This happened yesterday as well when I got back from the bathroom and wanted to extract a zipped file. Running apps can be used normally, though. What doesn't work is illumination, volume control, brightness control and the eject button. Finder is fully funtioning(no mounting of dmg's/zip's/etc. though.
Yesterday I fixed this with a reboot. I'll try to log out en logging back in to see if it'll disappear.

Edit: Well, couldn't log out. Finder didn't respond to command+shift+q, or the power button. Had to hold the button for the machine to shut down. If this behavior stays I'll go back to 4.10. I guess I never had to update it anyway, it was working fine the way it was. I guess it's a lesson learned.

Hal Itosis · 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by Sijmen

Weird thing is happening here. For some reason osx doesn't allow apps to start after an x-amount of time. Right now I wanted to mount an .img with toast. When I clicked on the Toast icon it just bounced and bounced and bounced until it got fed-up with itself and went into a slump.
I can't boot anything now. This happened yesterday as well when I got back from the bathroom and wanted to extract a zipped file. Running apps can be used normally, though. What doesn't work is illumination, volume control, brightness control and the eject button. Finder is fully funtioning(no mounting of dmg's/zip's/etc. though.
Yesterday I fixed this with a reboot. I'll try to log out en logging back in to see if it'll disappear.

Edit: Well, couldn't log out. Finder didn't respond to command+shift+q, or the power button. Had to hold the button for the machine to shut down. If this behavior stays I'll go back to 4.10. I guess I never had to update it anyway, it was working fine the way it was. I guess it's a lesson learned.

Are you aware of the <update prebinding> bug?

It can affect all or any part of OSX operation.
It can happen during any OSX update (or downgrade).

Similarly, a subsequent update or downgrade may fix the problem...
but the "issue" was actually an error during the prebinding process.

It may have happened to you, or anyone else.
See the linked article, for more/better details.

jrpkid · Nov 19, 2007, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Mac User #001

I noticed that too.

Ditto. I'm glad I found others noticing the same phenomenon. It took me a while to know it wasn't just me. My MacBookPro took a fatal crash when attempting the 10.4.11 update the first time. I had, fortunately, cloned my drive when I was having trouble with the MacBook Pro EFI Firmware Update 1.4. So I erased, reinstalled, ran the update, and now the machine is much faster, except, as noted, the start-up takes a lot longer. I stare at a gray screen for a while before I ever see the Apple logo. In addition, the blue bar "Loading Mac OS X" takes as long as it did before the firmware 1.4 update. But the time saved once it is up is worth it due to its new found quickness.

OS 10.4.11
Model Name: MacBook Pro 15"
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.16 GHz
Memory: 1 GB
Boot ROM Version: MBP22.00A5.B07
SMC Version: 1.12f5