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bOOzo · Nov 19, 2003, 10:07 AM

Get it from my homepage.

Feel free to post any problems or bugs.

dillerX · Nov 19, 2003, 10:28 AM

Like it.

Thanks for the update

Lefo · Nov 19, 2003, 10:41 AM

I like the original better, but that's just me.

BB

bOOzo · Nov 19, 2003, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Lefo:
I like the original better, but that's just me.

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Don't understand - nothing has changed dramatically.

memento · Nov 19, 2003, 10:53 AM

I've been waiting for this one.

Will try it tonight.

codywalton · Nov 19, 2003, 11:44 AM

looking good!

http://homepage.mac.com/codywalton/f...w-11-19-03.jpg

benign · Nov 19, 2003, 11:57 AM

Boozo's formidable talent at theming is
legendary and I appreciate his struggle with
trying to find beauty or a useable design.

Lefo · Nov 19, 2003, 11:59 AM

Hm, the subject didn't carry over to explain why I liked the original better. The title bar in the original looks great. The new preview show a flat window...I thought it looked a lot slicker with the beveled title bar.

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codywalton · Nov 19, 2003, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by Lefo:
Hm, the subject didn't carry over to explain why I liked the original better. The title bar in the original looks great. The new preview show a flat window...I thought it looked a lot slicker with the beveled title bar.

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well, that's the "brushed metal" style window. You can get rid of that if you use metafilizer, as you can see in the screenshot I linked above.

Cerbero · Nov 19, 2003, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by Lefo:
Hm, the subject didn't carry over to explain why I liked the original better. The title bar in the original looks great. The new preview show a flat window...I thought it looked a lot slicker with the beveled title bar.

BB

That's a Brushed Metal Finder window, not a regular window.

Thank you Max, been waiting for this one. I actually turned Metal back on for the Finder. With this theme, it looks great

NetworkShadow · Nov 19, 2003, 01:41 PM

Ooooo I never really used it on Jag, my brother didn't like it and since Shape Shifter is out I can have my own theme on my own account!

palmberg · Nov 19, 2003, 03:19 PM

Hmm. It's nice. Thanks for making it.

I'm new to all this themes stuff, but I think if there were a hybrid between this theme and the iPod theme, I'd be in hog heaven. Something about the "buttons" in the menubar here is a little clunky for me.

This is on a 900MHz iBook.

foad · Nov 19, 2003, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by codywalton:
well, that's the "brushed metal" style window. You can get rid of that if you use metafilizer, as you can see in the screenshot I linked above.

Is there a version of Metallifizer that works with Panther? On unsanity's site there is no mention besides it being in testing. Also is Fruitmenu ready for panther yet? thanks in advance!

palmberg · Nov 19, 2003, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by foad:
Is there a version of Metallifizer that works with Panther? On unsanity's site there is no mention besides it being in testing. Also is Fruitmenu ready for panther yet? thanks in advance!

I'm using Metallifizer under Panther now, but it don't de-metallifize everything (iTunes, por ejemplo).

rhythmicmoose · Nov 19, 2003, 04:02 PM

You leave instructions to double-click to install, but this won't copy the theme to your HD. For me anyway. They should still go to /Library/Themes/, right?

codywalton · Nov 19, 2003, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by foad:
Is there a version of Metallifizer that works with Panther? On unsanity's site there is no mention besides it being in testing. Also is Fruitmenu ready for panther yet? thanks in advance!

There is an alpha version of metafilizer that is panther compatable. look in the news archives of unsanity.org for a link.

and metafilizer will NEVER be able to de-metafilize itunes or quicktime becuase the use special proprietary interfaces. sorry.

codywalton · Nov 19, 2003, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by rhythmicmoose:
You leave instructions to double-click to install, but this won't copy the theme to your HD. For me anyway. They should still go to /Library/Themes/, right?

from what I understand you can put them anywhere. I still put mine in library/themes/ just for consistancy sake, and becuase SS automatically scans that folder for new themes.

rezonate · Nov 19, 2003, 04:20 PM

Hi,

I'm having trouble with getting the Metal Finder to change, and it's the same with other themes, it kinda just looks like Metal window without the texture, just grey. Any ideas?

Cheers

Fellow2000 · Nov 19, 2003, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by rezonate:
Hi,

I'm having trouble with getting the Metal Finder to change, and it's the same with other themes, it kinda just looks like Metal window without the texture, just grey. Any ideas?

Cheers

Yes, you need to use metifalizer, you can find an alpha that works with panther at unsanity. Once you demetalifize it, it will be aqua and match the rest of the theme you are using.

cxddesign · Nov 19, 2003, 04:54 PM

I'm using it now, I think i'll be switching off between this and SS Studio Pro, I like both very much. Definitely the smog configuration.

rezonate · Nov 19, 2003, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by Fellow2000:
Yes, you need to use metifalizer, you can find an alpha that works with panther at unsanity. Once you demetalifize it, it will be aqua and match the rest of the theme you are using.

Thanks. I've got metallifizer installed, but have it set to not touch the Finder, was kinda hoping I could get the theme to work with the metal finder shape.

H * � � · Nov 19, 2003, 06:03 PM

Thanks Max.
What I really need though is a square window smooth stripes theme.

Bobby · Nov 19, 2003, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by palmberg:
I'm using Metallifizer under Panther now, but it don't de-metallifize everything (iTunes, por ejemplo).

Well I can't get shapeshifter to theme iTunes either...

codywalton · Nov 19, 2003, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by Bobby:
Well I can't get shapeshifter to theme iTunes either...

I'm surprised people are still trying to do this. Nothing can theme iTunes or Quicktime because they don't use the same GUI resources are every other app. Period. I know it sucks that we can't have a 100% consistant interface, but that's the way it is. Complain to Apple.

SwarmyCurve · Nov 19, 2003, 08:35 PM

All of a sudden, text anti-aliasing is not working anymore with this theme applied.

Everything just gets ugly gray outlines.

It might be a theme issue, or just a ShapeShifter bug.

Anyone have any ideas?

mrtew · Nov 19, 2003, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by codywalton:
I'm surprised people are still trying to do this. Nothing can theme iTunes or Quicktime because they don't use the same GUI resources are every other app. Period. I know it sucks that we can't have a 100% consistant interface, but that's the way it is. Complain to Apple.

Titanium6 contains iTunes and Quicktime themes that make them match the rest of the GUI.

http://www.resexcellence.com/themes/

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smeger · Nov 20, 2003, 03:38 AM

Originally posted by SwarmyCurve:
All of a sudden, text anti-aliasing is not working anymore with this theme applied.

Everything just gets ugly gray outlines.

It might be a theme issue, or just a ShapeShifter bug.

Anyone have any ideas?

I think it might actually be a Panther bug. Does the problem go away after a reboot?

codywalton · Nov 20, 2003, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by mrtew:
Titanium6 contains iTunes and Quicktime themes that make them match the rest of the GUI.

http://www.resexcellence.com/themes/

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But those are seperate installs or hacks included with the theme, correct? What I meant was there is no singular theme file anywhere that contains the ability to theme iTunes or Quicktime by itself.

ryaxnb · Nov 20, 2003, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by codywalton:
I'm surprised people are still trying to do this. Nothing can theme iTunes or Quicktime because they don't use the same GUI resources are every other app. Period. I know it sucks that we can't have a 100% consistant interface, but that's the way it is. Complain to Apple.

Same with iPhoto and iMovie. BTW I can excuse QT and iTunes because they're Carbon and Carbon doesn't support stadnard brushed metal, but iPhoto and iMovie 3 (which are Cocoa) can't be excused. Aaargh. And P.S. iTunes can be skinned (look at resexcellence > iTunes skins) but it's a whole different ball game: instead of replacing or doing whatever SS does to system files, it needs to do those things to iTunes files. People need to start creating iTunes skins along with their themes, IMHO.

bOOzo · Nov 20, 2003, 05:31 PM

Thanks for the kind words people, glad you enjoy the theme

I'm amazed how good it makes the Finder look, if I'm allowed to say so myself.

About iTunes, Quicktime, iMovvie and iPhoto - once Application makeovers are implemented in ShapeShifer it will be able to make them melt in with the theme somwhat better. I hope Jason figures out a way to make iTunes more themable

Originally posted by rhythmicmoose:
You leave instructions to double-click to install, but this won't copy the theme to your HD. For me anyway. They should still go to /Library/Themes/, right?

The instructions says "copy to harddrive � then double click to install". If you just double click it, you have to have the dmg mounted for the theme to work. You can keep them anywhere you like, but ~/library/themes/ is probably the best place.

Bobby · Nov 21, 2003, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by codywalton:
I'm surprised people are still trying to do this. Nothing can theme iTunes or Quicktime because they don't use the same GUI resources are every other app. Period. I know it sucks that we can't have a 100% consistant interface, but that's the way it is. Complain to Apple.

I'm aware of that myself. The comment was in line to saying metalfizer won't demetalfize iTunes. I meant that no utility can change iTunes appearence; Metalfizer, ShapeShifter or otherwise...

Cerbero · Nov 22, 2003, 11:03 AM

Max, do you have any tip for what color should be used as the Highlight color with AA? I can't figure out exactly how the Finder makes the Highlight color darker, so I can't get the right color variation. When you just pick one of the lighter colors for the theme, it looks all purple once darkened by the Finder.

Stevos · Nov 22, 2003, 12:58 PM

Same with iPhoto and iMovie. BTW I can excuse QT and iTunes because they're Carbon and Carbon doesn't support stadnard brushed metal, but iPhoto and iMovie 3 (which are Cocoa) can't be excused. Aaargh. And P.S. iTunes can be skinned (look at resexcellence > iTunes skins) but it's a whole different ball game: instead of replacing or doing whatever SS does to system files, it needs to do those things to iTunes files. People need to start creating iTunes skins along with their themes, IMHO.

Actually, Carbon DOES support metal windows in a standard way, at least as of 10.3 (and 10.2 I think as well). QT and iTunes are just too old to have that support (after all, when iTunes came out, 'brushed metal' wasn't even really a concept). Maybe, if they rock, Apple would redo iTunes to use standard interface elements (the backgrounds, the traffic lights). They won't, because it would be lots of work, but it would rock.

palmberg · Nov 22, 2003, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by palmberg:
Hmm. It's nice. Thanks for making it.

I'm new to all this themes stuff, but I think if there were a hybrid between this theme and the iPod theme, I'd be in hog heaven. Something about the "buttons" in the menubar here is a little clunky for me.

This is on a 900MHz iBook.

Meh. The theme started slowing down Expose' and messing with scrolling in Safari (slowed it down, shredded the page content during scrolling), so I'm back to Aqua. It ain't so bad. Probably if I had a G4 it'd work much more smoothly.

bOOzo · Nov 22, 2003, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by Cerbero:
Max, do you have any tip for what color should be used as the Highlight color with AA? I can't figure out exactly how the Finder makes the Highlight color darker, so I can't get the right color variation. When you just pick one of the lighter colors for the theme, it looks all purple once darkened by the Finder.

I suggest changing it to match the color variation instead of the Aluminum. The predifined orange goes perfect with Volcanic for example. Haven't tried matching with the other variations.

Cerbero · Nov 22, 2003, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by bOOzo:
I suggest changing it to match the color variation instead of the Aluminum. The predifined orange goes perfect with Volcanic for example. Haven't tried matching with the other variations.

Yeah.. That's probably the best solution. Thanks.

ryaxnb · Nov 22, 2003, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Stevos:
Actually, Carbon DOES support metal windows in a standard way, at least as of 10.3 (and 10.2 I think as well). QT and iTunes are just too old to have that support (after all, when iTunes came out, 'brushed metal' wasn't even really a concept). Maybe, if they rock, Apple would redo iTunes to use standard interface elements (the backgrounds, the traffic lights). They won't, because it would be lots of work, but it would rock.

Oh.