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RhymesWithOrange · Mar 12, 2009, 02:25 AM

...or end of ways?

Okay, hypothetically speaking suppose for a moment the Mayans really knew something was up. By now everyone has heard about some big event supposedly happening December 21, 2012.

There's usually clues to upcoming catastrophic events (man made or natural) before they happen even though sometimes we aren't aware of them until the crap has hit the fan...

So my question is this; Is all the crap that's happening now (I don't need to mention them do I?...there's lots) some build-up to a main event or just all hogwash? Have little imagination. Pretend you have some vision.

Mass starvation, polar shift, revolutions in countries that we wouldn't think of or haven't had for a long while, atomic stuffs or just a mild day for December 21st.

Have a hunch, have a go.

Doofy · Mar 12, 2009, 04:08 AM

It ain't just the Mayans though, is it?

Here's what the Hopi have to say about it:

turtle777 · Mar 12, 2009, 09:27 AM

-t

Person Man · Mar 12, 2009, 09:31 AM

The only thing that is going to happen on December 21, 2012 is that it will most likely be cold in Ohio and warm in Australia. In other words, nothing. In the 33 years that I've been around, I've seen all sorts of doomsday-type predictions, and each time people say, "Well, this is the REAL one, for sure!" And then that day comes and goes, and nothing. Then you don't hear anything for a while until someone figures out what the next one will be.

I'm planning on a relatively uneventful day that day.

RAILhead · Mar 12, 2009, 10:25 AM

I'm just glad it'll be a Friday.

RhymesWithOrange · Mar 12, 2009, 07:05 PM

http://www.december212012.net/

Hopi...

Me thinks that Hopi guy did some wild peyote and drew that himself. Looks like a fire truck goin' through a corn field to help that guy put the burning cross out. Hey...burning cross...maybe a race war?!!?

Mayan...

Much prettier. Mayans were obviously good at graphic design. Hopis suck at art.

I say a polar shift by a few metres.

RhymesWithOrange · Mar 12, 2009, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Person Man

I'm planning on a relatively uneventful day that day.

At least till 11:11 GMT.

nonhuman · Mar 12, 2009, 07:11 PM

But the end times are already here! They started with the second coming of God's human incarnation: His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, King of Kings of Ethiopia and Elect of God

RhymesWithOrange · Mar 12, 2009, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by nonhuman

But the end times are already here! They started with the second coming of God's human incarnation: His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, King of Kings of Ethiopia and Elect of God

OK, maybe it's a field of ganges and not corn.

Begun in Jamaica in the 1930s, the Rastafarian movement perceives Haile Selassie as a messianic figure who will lead the peoples of Africa and the African diaspora to a golden age of peace, righteousness, and prosperity.

Person Man · Mar 12, 2009, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by RhymesWithOrange

At least till 11:11 GMT.

Suit yourself.

Hg2491 · Mar 12, 2009, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by RhymesWithOrange

...or end of ways?

Okay, hypothetically speaking suppose for a moment the Mayans really knew something was up.

A friend of mine said the guy who made the calendar died and that's the reason why it ends on 2012.

turtle777 · Mar 12, 2009, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Person Man

Suit yourself.

That's planned for 11:59 pm.

-t

Person Man · Mar 13, 2009, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by turtle777

That's planned for 11:59 pm.

-t

GMT?

osiris · Mar 13, 2009, 10:04 AM

The only thing that will happen on 12/21/12 is that we (residents of the Sol System) shall pass through the center of the Milky Way.
And it's not like this just happens in one day, we've been moving through the center for thousands of years, but 12/21/12 is the exact center date. It's like a grand galactic solstice or something. So smoke 'em if ya got 'em! LOL

nonhuman · Mar 13, 2009, 10:48 AM

What do you mean by center? Our solar system is on the far outskirts of the Milky Way, we aren't, and never will be, anywhere near the center of the galaxy.

Dakar V · Mar 13, 2009, 10:54 AM

I'm confused too. That and we'd be, oh I dunno, destroyed by the black hole in the middle.

osiris · Mar 13, 2009, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by nonhuman

What do you mean by center? Our solar system is on the far outskirts of the Milky Way, we aren't, and never will be, anywhere near the center of the galaxy.

My bad - our alignment will be with galactic center as we move around it. This happens in a 25800 year cycle, give or take a few years.

osiris · Mar 13, 2009, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

I'm confused too. That and we'd be, oh I dunno, destroyed by the black hole in the middle.

And you would just love that, wouldn't you? Sorry for the confusion.

Dakar V · Mar 13, 2009, 11:27 AM

Could you include pictures, maps, graphs? And a booth babe to explain? kthx

Person Man · Mar 13, 2009, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

Could you include pictures, maps, graphs? And a booth babe to explain? kthx

Who needs maps, graphs and pictures if you've got a booth babe?

Any bets on what date will be the next apocalypse, after 12/21/2012? What date will people be afraid of next?

osiris · Mar 13, 2009, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

Could you include pictures, maps, graphs? And a booth babe to explain? kthx

NASA claims the whole 2012 thing is internet hoax, which it may be. We'll find out soon.

Booth babes are, in fact, real.

Dakar V · Mar 13, 2009, 12:25 PM

That's a commendable effort. It needs to be publicly acknowledged.

nonhuman · Mar 13, 2009, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by osiris

My bad - our alignment will be with galactic center as we move around it. This happens in a 25800 year cycle, give or take a few years.

That also makes no sense. Our alignment is always with the galactic center as we move around it. We are also always aligned with any other single point in space you wish to choose. In order for alignment to be significant there needs to be at least three points.

Dakar V · Mar 13, 2009, 12:31 PM

It seems to be in context with the plane of spiral arms.

osiris · 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by nonhuman

That also makes no sense. Our alignment is always with the galactic center as we move around it. We are also always aligned with any other single point in space you wish to choose. In order for alignment to be significant there needs to be at least three points.

Why three? Two points can be aligned, as in this case. It just seems like we're stationary because the time scale is so huge.
http://www.earthsky.org/faq/milky-way-rotation

Chuckit · Mar 13, 2009, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by osiris

Why three? Two points can be aligned, as in this case. It just seems like we're stationary because the time scale is so huge.
http://www.earthsky.org/faq/milky-way-rotation

Not only can two points be aligned, they always are. Pick any two points — they form a straight line. That's why a two-point alignment is meaningless.

osiris · Mar 13, 2009, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Not only can two points be aligned, they always are. Pick any two points — they form a straight line. That's why a two-point alignment is meaningless.

The whole 2012 myth/legend hinges on the idea this (2 point) alignment takes place as the Milky Way galaxy passes through the center of the galactic plane. You can still have two points, but those two points are also in motion.

But your argument is likely correct, and physicists will agree that this whole thing is BS:
http://www.physicsforums.com/archive.../t-208935.html

or not:
http://journals.cambridge.org/action...ct?aid=1804088

What is fascinating is that ancient cultures knew of the enormous time periods involved here.

ironknee · Mar 13, 2009, 10:48 PM

i bet a lot of christians are hoping this 2012 is real

somehow tying it to the second coming... am i right?