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MacNN Dark Confession Series 03: PROSTITUTION
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Jun 27, 2008, 12:59 PM
 
I've never been with a prostitute, but when I was single, I always thought if I was ever in Nevada, I would give it a go. I've heard it's pretty safe in a legal situation. When I was in high school and college, all my money went toward camera equipment, so I couldn't afford one anyway.

I don't expect much in the way of confessions on this one, but anyone had prostitution experiences? Good, bad, life altering? On either side of the deal? And what did it cost?

(and yes, this thread was inspired by the "how much have you paid for X" thread which made me think of sex.)
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Jun 27, 2008, 01:01 PM
 
I think you hit the limit of things people will cop to, even on the internet.
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 01:03 PM
 
Yeah, but let's just see.
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Jun 27, 2008, 01:04 PM
 
Are talking about soliciting a prostitute or trying to earn a few bucks on the side?

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Jun 27, 2008, 01:04 PM
 
I know, I know, even if we get one poster to relate an experience this thread will probably have been worthwhile.
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 01:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
Are talking about soliciting a prostitute or trying to earn a few bucks on the side?
This query casts your location in a while new light.
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 01:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
Are talking about soliciting a prostitute or trying to earn a few bucks on the side?
yes
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Jun 27, 2008, 01:09 PM
 
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Jun 27, 2008, 01:42 PM
 
I was with some friends in Amsterdam, and one of them decided to give it a go. He came back in about 10 minutes, and said that he couldn't get an erection, so the woman got some "machine" (as he described it) to get him up. It freaked him out so much that he just left.

I always kind of admired him after that. I'd like to think I'd also be too grossed out to actually go through with it.
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 03:22 PM
 
I've bought girls things and/or given them money and they banged me. Actually, that pretty much sums up every relationship with women I've ever had. I'm not saying all women are prostitutes, but quite a few are (at least) part-timers.

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Jun 27, 2008, 04:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by design219 View Post
I've never been with a prostitute, but when I was single, I always thought if I was ever in Nevada, I would give it a go. I've heard it's pretty safe in a legal situation.
They take casino chips
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Jun 27, 2008, 04:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
They take casino chips
Well, gambling may be the next dark confession installment. Be sure to check back.
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Jun 27, 2008, 04:32 PM
 
I've been with a prostitute - that was how I lost my virginity.

A friend of mine was getting sick and tired of hearing my whine about not having been with a girl, so, as the nice guy he was, he called his rather dodgy dad and asked him if he knew any prostitues in Copenhagen?

As it happened, he did know a place, gave my friend the phonenumber, and then he rang and got an appointment...

We showed up, chatted for a bit, had a cup of coffee - and got down to business
The prostitute I was with, wasn't the youngest - must have been 45 years old or so, but she did know her trade.

To sum it up, it was quite successful: It got a nice blowjob, got to shag her and was told the my wedding vegetable was bigger than average

I was 19 and happy as an clam! I paid roughly $100 for 4 hours...

To be honest, I think it was a nice way to lose ones virginity - with someone who knows what they are doing, and together with another confused teenager.
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Jun 27, 2008, 04:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by design219 View Post
Well, gambling may be the next dark confession installment. Be sure to check back.
You have a roadmap for this series sitting in a text file on your computer at work, don't you.

Be sure to check back in every Friday?
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 04:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by vexborg View Post
I paid roughly $100 for 4 hours.
Whoa, $25 an hour. That sound cheap.
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Jun 27, 2008, 04:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth View Post
You have a roadmap for this series sitting in a text file on your computer at work, don't you.
No, if you have ideas, feel free to start one up!

I think drugs, gambling, maybe lies, I don't know. Ideas are welcomed.
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Jun 27, 2008, 04:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by vexborg View Post
To be honest, I think it was a nice way to lose ones virginity - with someone who knows what they are doing, and together with another confused teenager.
If you were going to get busy with your buddy, you didn't need to pay the $100!
     
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if you have ideas
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Jun 27, 2008, 04:43 PM
 
I haven't been able to dig it up but there's a "legal prostitution faq" that describes the (somewhat standardized) process of going to a legal brothel in Nevada.

It's entertaining reading. I'll keep looking for it.
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 04:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by design219 View Post
Whoa, $25 an hour. That sound cheap.
Back then (1992) it was cheap - and safe. Of course condoms were used.
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Jun 27, 2008, 04:48 PM
 
Originally Posted by wallinbl View Post
If you were going to get busy with your buddy, you didn't need to pay the $100!
Wel, my buddy is a dude - and I don't bonk dudes...
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Jun 27, 2008, 04:48 PM
 
I find that anyone who needs a prostitute is pretty sad as are the poor woman doing god knows what for under $100 an hour.
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 04:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
I find that anyone who needs a prostitute is pretty sad as are the poor woman doing god knows what for under $100 an hour.
I see it the way that prostitutes do the society a favour - at least in Denmark, not everybody can get a girl just by snapping their fingers. For some this could lead to frustations, perhaps drinking - and it might end up in violence, sexual assult or something worse.

Prosititutes acts as an safety valve.

Of course not every "girl of the night" are in it for the money, some have a drugs problem, are forced into it...
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
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Your judgementalism is duly noted. Thanks for playing.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
I find that anyone who needs a prostitute is pretty sad as are the poor woman doing god knows what for under $100 an hour.
You're not paying for sex. You're paying them to leave.

I've never paid for sex. I'm always surprised by the men who casually bring it up in conversation. I just remind them to always bag it: memories are better than souvenirs.
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 05:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES View Post
I find that anyone who needs a prostitute is pretty sad as are the poor woman doing god knows what for under $100 an hour.
But as soon as they hit that $101 per hour mark...BAM! Nothing but class!
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 06:19 PM
 
I never got the idea of paying for sex. Girls are as horny as guys, if not more so, and the chase is all part of the fun. Why pay?
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 06:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by vexborg View Post
and it might end up in violence, sexual assult or something worse.

Prosititutes acts as an safety valve.

This is like saying slaves act as a safety valve for the owner having to do work.

True, but it misses the point.


FWIW, you should note I'm judging your argument here, not your actions.
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 06:28 PM
 
I find people who frequent strip clubs more idiotic than those who see hookers.
What the hell is the point of giving a woman sums of money for working you up and then leaving? At least there is a rational quid pro quo from prostitution.

Nevertheless both options are poorly thought out. You can walk into any bar buy two drinks and have better sexual prospects from that investment. There's no need to spend the kind of money a stripper or hooker requires to get ass. That is unless you are ugly, obese, or just plain sexually undesirable.

With all that said, I think there is a very legitimate argument to be made that the majority of sex a man gets in his lifetime does cost him on some level.

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Jun 27, 2008, 06:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
This is like saying slaves act as a safety valve for the owner having to do work.
Your analogy lacks an analogous situation. Hookers aren't slaves.

I don't think prostitution is a "safety valve" for anything. Spending money on prosecuting pros and their clients is just a waste of resources.
     
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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
What the hell is the point of giving a woman sums of money for working you up and then leaving?

I think you can find the answer to that question in those back rooms.

Be sure to wear your galoshes during your investigation.
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Originally Posted by lpkmckenna View Post
Your analogy lacks an analogous situation. Hookers aren't slaves.

Uhh... If hookers were slaves why would I have bothered using an analogy?

The parallel I'm trying to draw is one of attitude.

Edit: got a little distracted and let this get out even though it needs clarification... stand by.
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Originally Posted by design219 View Post
Whoa, $25 an hour. That sound cheap.
She only had one leg.


Heather Mills has increased her fees since then.
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 08:35 PM
 
Okay. I don't think my analogy is "wrong", but man, it's horribly constructed considering the point I'm trying to make.

What I'm taking issue with is prostitution being presented as a solution for the problem of men who would otherwise be criminals.

This is like the slave owner presenting "owning slaves" as a solution for the problem of having to work.

In both cases the solution is self-serving to the arguer, and in both cases it's the arguer who's the problem... not that they have a problem, they are the problem.


Of course, I'm guessing vexborg isn't someone for whom the legality of prostitution is the only thing keeping him from sexually assaulting someone, but he is making an argument on behalf of men who are.

Likewise, making the slave owner no longer a problem is (at least technically) an easy proposition, making the ****head who lacks self-control find himself some is a tougher row to hoe. Much of that lack of self-control is cultural, and we haven't even come close to doing all we can do to make that culturally unacceptable.

Until that point, that prostitution does serve a purpose as a safety valve is something over which we should be hanging our heads in shame.
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 10:51 PM
 
I had someone offer me sex for money once on the internet... I replied with, "If I want sex I don't have to pay for it." I was like, you just told a average looking young gay man that you will have sex with him for money. Like, I mean, really I've had some pretty hot guys offer to have sex with me so why would I pay for it?
     
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Jun 27, 2008, 11:23 PM
 
Completely for legalised prostitution. Never paid for sex other than in the traditional sense (wine-dine-make you mine).

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You've been cruisin' the old MH, Salty?

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Yeah for legalize prostitution.
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I grew up in San Diego. Back when I was in high school the border crossing was very lax for Americans. So, being that Tijuana was only 30 miles away, we would go down there all the time. It was a lot safer back then too (in the mid 90's). Anyway, we would regularly hit up Adelita's and the Chicago Club. Back then it was about $60 for full service for an hour, but I am sure it has gone up. You had to go at the right time too, the quality of the women could vary greatly. Although, sometimes it was worse when the most attractive women were in because that was also when all of the really rich guys were there. Needless to say, the hottest whores would not be approaching the high school students. Ah, you gotta love the legal brothels.
     
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Jun 28, 2008, 03:07 PM
 
The idea has never appealed to me.

I just don't find women who've slept with large numbers of men attractive, whether they be whores or just barsluts.

Very unhygienic.
     
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Originally Posted by Mastrap View Post
I never got the idea of paying for sex. Girls are as horny as guys, if not more so, and the chase is all part of the fun. Why pay?
Yeah, they're horny as guys until you marry them. Then the sex stops because they got what they wanted.
     
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Originally Posted by Spliff View Post
Yeah, they're horny as guys until you marry them. Then the sex stops because they got what they wanted.
Ha!

But yeah, girls may be as horny as guys, but they do not have the same attitudes as guys towards casual sex. It's considered to be probably the biggest gender difference that there is.
     
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Originally Posted by Spliff View Post
Yeah, they're horny as guys until you marry them. Then the sex stops because they got what they wanted.
Hell, try an engagement ring. The ring goes on, the pants stay on too. At least in my situation lol.
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Girls are as horny as guys, if not more so
Well that's just silly.
     
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Well, there was this one time, when I was stationed in Taiwan, 38 years ago.........
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Jun 28, 2008, 09:03 PM
 
A couple of random, unscreened guys a night making a deposit? Not a place I would want to go, let alone pay for.
     
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Originally Posted by Salty View Post
Like, I mean, really I've had some pretty hot guys offer to have sex with me so why would I pay for it?
Because you're too proud to accept charity?

I've never paid for sex but I have shared a flat with a high class call girl and a... err... budget hooker. I find it sad that girls will do that, but then these girls weren't stupid and they weren't junkies and damn the "high class" girl got paid a lot. She'd make my weekly wage in an hour. So who's the stupid one?
     
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Yeah, they're horny as guys until you marry them. Then the sex stops because they got what they wanted.
Speak for yourself.
     
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Originally Posted by Face Ache View Post
Because you're too proud to accept charity?

I've never paid for sex but I have shared a flat with a high class call girl and a... err... budget hooker. I find it sad that girls will do that, but then these girls weren't stupid and they weren't junkies and damn the "high class" girl got paid a lot. She'd make my weekly wage in an hour. So who's the stupid one?
Explain share a flat? You mean you were living with them?
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Explain share a flat? You mean you were living with them?
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