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PB2K · Nov 8, 2005, 03:42 AM

I want to buy a really nice suit for casual but special occasions. I was wondering if I am better off with a Hugo Boss suit (confection) or walk into a tailorshop and have it custom made. The price of a tailormade suit is less. How is the quality of a Boss suit? I am 1.73 meters short, wide shoulders, slim waiste, there is not much fashion that fits me.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 03:51 AM

Get the "Hugo Boss" suit. I really haven't seen that many tailored suits that lasted (fashion wise).

OreoCookie · Nov 8, 2005, 04:17 AM

Tailor-made. Make sure they take their time with it. I've got two tailor-made suits and they've lasted ten years and they are in a very good condition. Especially if you have trouble finding something that fits well. A Hugo Boss suit that doesn't quite fit will be a Hugo Boss suit that doesn't quite fit

Oh, Warung, tailor-made suits are not about fashion

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

Oh, Warung, tailor-made suits are not about fashion

Yes, I've noticed.

OreoCookie · Nov 8, 2005, 04:37 AM

If you get a classic suit, it'll last. You'll always be well-dressed.

RonnieoftheRose · Nov 8, 2005, 04:41 AM

Don't like Hugo Boss. I have a good YSL suit but otherwise my suits are made for me by my tailor on Savile Row according to my own modern but retro design.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

You'll always be well-dressed.

No.

Randman · Nov 8, 2005, 05:16 AM

Tailor-made but get a good tailor and don't skimp.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by PB2K

I want to buy a really nice suit for casual but special occasions.

Just a quick question, since I was faced with a similar decision a couple of weeks ago. Why buy a suit at all? Are you somebody that normally wears a suit?

I decided against getting one and went for the kind of clothes that I knew reflected my personality and style.

Randman · Nov 8, 2005, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

Just a quick question, since I was faced with a similar decision a couple of weeks ago. Why buy a suit at all? Are you somebody that normally wears a suit?

I decided against getting one and went for the kind of clothes that I knew reflected my personality and style.

How old are you? I would think past a certain age (around the mid-20s), having a good suit in the closet is like having a good insurance policy (another thing people should consider after a certain age).

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Randman

...past a certain age (around the mid-20s), having a good sense of style is like having a good insurance policy.

fixed™

/bought a suit about 10 years ago because I thought exactly the way you suggested in your post.

PB2K · Nov 8, 2005, 06:06 AM

I usually wear outdoor clothing because it's loose, lightweighted and has plenty of pockets to put my stuff in. I hate jeans, too tight.

A suit would complete my wardrobe. It's always handy for a diner, negotiating with a private customer, or just to impress girls (I drive a classic). My job doesnt require a suit, thank god.

Randman · Nov 8, 2005, 06:49 AM

Having a good sense of style means being prepared. As much as I prefer not to wear suits, it is nice to have one, minimum in the closet. Wedding, funeral, important job meeting, job interview, formal social event, formal dinner, etc.

Besides, with a good suit, you have the jacket which, imo, is 90% of the appeal as you can wear a nice jacket without tie, different pants, etc., which is nice for semi-formal or "dressy" occassions.

OreoCookie · Nov 8, 2005, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

No.

You seem to be opposed to suits in general. I usually don't wear them (I'm not a suit person), but I think you need one for special occasions. Marriages, today I happen to wear one because I go to a classical concert with some of my friends.

And a good tailor-made suit beats a confection suit any day. Although I should mention that in good shops you can always have your suit altered to your needs.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

You seem to be opposed to suits in general.

I just think that the suit as a "cultural" icon has outlived it's stay. People who require you to wear them are usually not worth the time, and yes, I do believe that you (in general) should develop your own sense of style.

I have numerous occasions a year where I "could" wear a suit to "fit in", but recently I have decided to skip that convention, and wear things which more closely reflect what I want my clothes to.

Randman · Nov 8, 2005, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

I just think that the suit as a "cultural" icon has outlived it's stay. People who require you to wear them are usually not worth the time, and yes, I do believe that you (in general) should develop your own sense of style.

I have numerous occasions a year where I "could" wear a suit to "fit in", but recently I have decided to skip that convention, and wear things which more closely reflect what I want my clothes to.

Ahh, see you confuse require with wish.

I'm not required to wear a suit at the occasions I mentioned above, I choose to.

And I chose to at times when I want to make a particular statement via fashion. The same way I can make a statement by wearing a nice pair of slacks, button-down shirt and jacket. Or a statement by wearing jeans, sneakers and a baseball jersey.

See, if you have a nice suit, you can wear it or not. That's not a requirement but a choice.

Randman · Nov 8, 2005, 07:23 AM

ack, tired of the duplicate posts.

RonnieoftheRose · Nov 8, 2005, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

I just think that the suit as a "cultural" icon has outlived it's stay.

What should have outlived its stay by now is branded clothing by companies that pay little to make those uncomfortable clothes and then use you for free advertising. Nothing beats a well tailored suit designed by yourself and I think we should go back to the days of tailors and milliner shops. A smartly dressed society is one that has more cohesion and respect for themselves. There's also a sense of confidence that comes with dressing well. I love my Ted Baker jeans as anyone else but when I'm travelling on a plane or playing a thousand pounds a hand at roulette I'm all suit and tie. My posture improves in a suit too.

Randman · Nov 8, 2005, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by RonnieoftheRose

What should have outlived its stay by now is branded clothing by companies that pay little to make those uncomfortable clothes and then use you for free advertising. Nothing beats a well tailored suit designed by yourself and I think we should go back to the days of tailors and milliner shops. A smartly dressed society is one that has more cohesion and respect for themselves. I love my Ted Baker jeans as anyone else but when I'm travelling on a plane or playing a thousand pounds a hand at roulette I'm all suit and tie.

I agree. I usually shy away from many clothes with "advertising labels" on them, if I can.

Besides suits, I have had a number of shirts tailor-made for me when visiting Asia. Great fit, no logos and I can choose what I want in colour, fabric and other needs. The prices are usually cheaper (in Asia at least) then many mall-type clothing stores and they look and feel great. I have short-sleeve button-downs as well as long-sleeved ones.

That said, when is the fedora coming back.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by Randman

Ahh, see you confuse require with wish.

I'm not required to wear a suit at the occasions I mentioned above, I choose to.

And I chose to at times when I want to make a particular statement via fashion.

That of course could be true, if at other times, you were "required" to wear casual clothes...but, afaik, people never are. Thus, by wearing a "suit", you actually aren't making a "fashion statement" at all.

Nov 8, 2005, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

I just think that the suit as a "cultural" icon has outlived it's stay. People who require you to wear them are usually not worth the time, and yes, I do believe that you (in general) should develop your own sense of style.

I have numerous occasions a year where I "could" wear a suit to "fit in", but recently I have decided to skip that convention, and wear things which more closely reflect what I want my clothes to.

Although I subscribe to your way of thinking, it is sometimes impossible to be taken seriously if you don't play the part, i.e. job interview. Though I usually only wear tshirts and cargos, I'm not going to show up at a funeral or job interview in that - as much as I'd like to. That being said, those are the only two ocassions where I'll play dress up and to do that, I need to borrow the gear.

RonnieoftheRose · Nov 8, 2005, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Randman

I agree. I usually shy away from many clothes with "advertising labels" on them, if I can.

That said, when is the fedora coming back.

Fedoras are horrible. The Trilby is best.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by screamingFit

..Though I usually only wear tshirts and cargos...

Then, by all means, continue wearing suits on those "special occasions".

PB2K · Nov 8, 2005, 07:56 AM

i like the movie "GATTACA"

everyone in a nice black suit

Kevin · Nov 8, 2005, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

I just think that the suit as a "cultural" icon has outlived it's stay. People who require you to wear them are usually not worth the time, and yes, I do believe that you (in general) should develop your own sense of style.

I have numerous occasions a year where I "could" wear a suit to "fit in", but recently I have decided to skip that convention, and wear things which more closely reflect what I want my clothes to.

What is this? Queer eye for the striaght guy?

Some people like suits.

Deal.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Some people like suits.

I'm sure you do.

Kevin · Nov 8, 2005, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

I'm sure you do.

That was about a retarded reply. I SAID SOME PEOPLE.

I have owned a suit here and there in my life. At this point in time, I have no need for one.

Sorry that didn't work out the way you wanted it to.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

That was about a retarded reply. I SAID SOME PEOPLE.

And that couldn't possibly include you? LOL

Oh, and that joke went way over your head. Sorry, 'bout that.

Kevin · Nov 8, 2005, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

And that couldn't possibly include you? LOL

It could possibly include kermit the frog. But no one would come back and reply using his name would they?

The fact is, you projected the idea that I like suits.

Oh, and that joke went way over your head. Sorry, 'bout that.

No you were attempting to call me gay!1

AHAHA YOU CALLED ME GAY!11

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

It could possibly include kermit the frog....

Congrats, you just won the award for the *duh* post of the month.

Oh, and...

2. suit

Slang for a businessman or any authority figure that wears a suit, e.g. manager, boss, supervisor.
Those suits have been riding my ass all day.
Source: Pork King, Apr 30, 2003

Kevin · 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

Congrats, you just won the award for the *duh* post of the month.

Warung, I know you can come up with better than this. If you can't in the short time you are posting. Take more time out.

Oh, and...

Wow

that was even lamer than the joke I thought you were trying to force in there.

So you are saying I like business men?

That is a joke how?

Yeah it sure went over my head because I was giving you too much credit.

Warung · 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

...that was even lamer than the joke I thought you were trying to force in there.

The thing is, I don't give a fu<k if you thought it was lame. I thought it was mildly funny and highly appropriate. No big deal though.

Oh, and the next time I'll make sure my comments are single digit IQ safe. Don't want you to be missing out on anyhting.

Kevin · Nov 8, 2005, 08:27 AM

100% Silly.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

100% True.

fixed.™

Kevin · Nov 8, 2005, 08:34 AM

Warung that's it! You won the argument! Go measure you penis now, and post about it on your blog.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Go measure you penis now, and post about it...

Why? Is that what you do at your NAMBLA forum?

Kevin · Nov 8, 2005, 08:40 AM

Yes.

Wanna go out back and make out sugar tits?

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Yes.

Wanna go out back and make out sugar tits?

Sorry, but I don't think I'd meet your <12 age requirement.

Randman · Nov 8, 2005, 09:07 AM

Warung, you quote "Pork King" for your definition? Weak.

Try the Oxford.

suit |soōt| noun 1 a set of outer clothes made of the same fabric and designed to be worn together, typically consisting of a jacket and trousers or a jacket and skirt. • a set of clothes to be worn on a particular occasion or for a particular activity

OreoCookie · Nov 8, 2005, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

I just think that the suit as a "cultural" icon has outlived it's stay. People who require you to wear them are usually not worth the time, and yes, I do believe that you (in general) should develop your own sense of style.

I have numerous occasions a year where I "could" wear a suit to "fit in", but recently I have decided to skip that convention, and wear things which more closely reflect what I want my clothes to.

I do have my own sense of style and in a way I don't pay so much attention to what people wear but who they are. I can be surrounded with my brother's friends who wear dread locks and long hair and I can be with serious people wearing suits. If I want to stick out, I do.

But I don't believe you have to optically stick out to always make a point. If I wear a suit, I do it, coz I want to. When I'm invited to a formal occasion, such as my grandmother's birthday or so and I make her happy by wearing a suit, I will put on a suit and wear the tie she gave me for Christmas. Or when my brother graduates, I will wear a suit as well to honor his achievement. If it's that easy to make someone happy, I do it.

Dressing the right way for the right occasion is a sign of respect for me. I don't go on a date or to a party wearing my old jeans and a T-Shirt.

I find people (like my brother for instance) who always try to obviously stick out of the bunch to be as bad as those who are trying to always fit in. You are not yourself. I do what I want.

Originally Posted by Warung

That of course could be true, if at other times, you were "required" to wear casual clothes...but, afaik, people never are. Thus, by wearing a "suit", you actually aren't making a "fashion statement" at all.

Sure you do make a statement. Depending on the occasion, it might be respect or that you regard the situation as special.

To get back on topic, one positive side of tailor-made suits is that they have no (obvious or known) label. I personally hate when you advertise the brand of your clothes. The brand is not important, quality is.

Kevin · Nov 8, 2005, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

Sorry, but I don't think I'd meet your <12 age requirement.

Sissy.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Randman

Warung, you quote "Pork King" for your definition? Weak.

Try the Oxford.

suit |soōt| noun 1 a set of outer clothes made of the same fabric and designed to be worn together, typically consisting of a jacket and trousers or a jacket and skirt. • a set of clothes to be worn on a particular occasion or for a particular activity

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I'm laughing because I'm sure I'm missing the joke here....I am missing the...joke

Oh and:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=suit

Kevin · Nov 8, 2005, 09:17 AM

Urbandictionary.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

If I wear a suit, I do it, coz I want to.... If it's that easy to make someone happy, I do it.

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

Dressing the right way for the right occasion is a sign of respect for me.

Same here. Just that I personally pick what "the right way" is.

No big deal though. Do whatever makes you feel the most comfortable. You know I will.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Urbandictionary.

Yes, a "dictionary", Kevin. A pretty cool book or web page where you can actually learn about "stuff", - but you wouldn't know anyhting about that, would you?

Kevin · Nov 8, 2005, 09:22 AM

Sure thing, I've been a entry mod for about 2 years now at that site Warung.
It's people like me that judge what goes in and what doesn't.

Not that it makes me special or anything.

Warung · Nov 8, 2005, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Not that it makes me special or anything.

No, what makes you "special" is that you apperently don't even know the definition of the entries you are supposed to moderate.

Wooooo-Yaaayyyyy

OreoCookie · Nov 8, 2005, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

You apparently want to misunderstand this, do you? One of the most important things in life is respect (which has nothing to do with obedience). I respect people if they have earned their respect. As I said, I don't define myself by what I wear. I speak my mind and I don't care what other people think of me.

There were quite a few occasions when I wanted to stand out (for instance an uptight party and I came in a suit alright).

But to construe that I wear things to fit in just isn't the case. I find the insistance that wearing clothes which are customary for a specific occasion is a way of choosing the path of least resistance immature.

Originally Posted by Warung

Same here. Just that I personally pick what "the right way" is.

No big deal though. Do whatever makes you feel the most comfortable. You know I will.

No, you just try to insist on something to make a point.

Kevin · Nov 8, 2005, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Warung

No, what makes you "special" is that you apperently don't even know the definition of the entries you are supposed to moderate.

Wooooo-Yaaayyyyy

Uh, I think that was your arguement with Randman, not me. try to keep up.

PB2K · Nov 8, 2005, 09:51 AM

you guys make a thead unreadable by quoting whole posts

anyway, i'll go for a tailor made suit, like one said, an ill fitting Boss suite can't be better than a wellfitting suit

no one will notice the Boss brand in my collar. instead it could have my initials