[Dork.]

You're kind of limited as to where you can put offshore oil rigs, right? Don't you need to put them where the oil is?

[smacintush]

There's plenty of oil in those areas where drilling is banned. Both coasts.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by smacintush 

There's plenty of oil in those areas where drilling is banned. Both coasts.

Plenty of oil, but not nearly enough to do much good given America's rate of oil consumption. A couple years of use at best.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by smacintush 

I just wanna congratulate the government for legislating a situation where all of our offshore rigs and refineries are in hurricane alley.

I suspect the oil companies don't mind that one bit. It gives them an excuse for jacking prices and then lower them to a level higher than pre-damage.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak 

Plenty of oil, but not nearly enough to do much good given America's rate of oil consumption. A couple years of use at best.

The north shore has at least 200 years worth of current consumption supply. But if you get it from the north shore, you can't get foreign nations to absorb your national debt. That's the real reason it's banned - you get it from there and your national debt spirals too much, bankrupting you almost overnight.

[Big Mac]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

you get it from there and your national debt spirals too much, bankrupting you almost overnight.

I think that horse left the barn long ago. But for the sake of argument, didn't you once write that the national debt was a figment of the fractional banking system?

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Big Mac 

But for the sake of argument, didn't you once write that the national debt was a figment of the fractional banking system?

Yup.

[Big Mac]

So then, those two statements on the subject seem contradictory.

[Doofy]

All money is a figment of the fractional banking system. Including the extra tax you'd have to pay to service the debt.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by Eug 

Oil now down below $95 US. Yet, gas prices are at record levels. WTF?

Wholesale gasoline prices hit well over US$5 per gallon last week. They're at about $1.38 in Toronto, and were up to $1.50 in Montreal.

Yeah, Ike and all that, but as usual, the companies seem to have overcompensated.

Gas here in Toronto now under $1.20, even though oil is up to US$97.

[legacyb4]

Or more simply, "they want to increase prices".

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak 

Exactly. I remember hearing, a few years ago, that one of the states, Connecticut, I think, was requesting to be able to increase their rates because too many of their customers were consuming less.

They want to increase prices when demand exceed supply, and they want to increase prices when demand is *less* than supply.

[Dakar V]

My local gas prices have dropped to pre-hurricane levels.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

My local gas prices have dropped to pre-hurricane levels.

My local gas prices are now below pre-hurricane levels:

Originally Posted by Eug on Monday 

Oil now down below $95 US. Yet, gas prices are at record levels. WTF?

They're at about $1.38 in Toronto, and were up to $1.50 in Montreal.

Originally Posted by Eug on Thursday 

Gas here in Toronto now under $1.20, even though oil is up to US$97.

Today, they're at $1.13. Huge drop in the last week. A full 25 cents, or 18% since Monday.

The interesting part is that this despite the fact that oil is now back over $100 per barrel ($102).

[Shaddim]

Last Friday gas was $6 /gal, now they're back down to $3.60ish. Crazy stuff.


However, our local DA is doing her job, all the station owners who jacked their prices over $4.49 (98% of them) are being indicted for price gouging.

[Dakar V]

$6! That's ridiculous.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

$6! That's ridiculously cheap.

Fixinatednessish.

[Dakar V]

Yeah, not in the US.

[Shaddim]

I never paid those prices. When we heard that gas was going to climb rapidly, we topped off our vehicles.

[Dakar V]

Yeah, I was able to ride it out unintentionally.

[Doofy]

(Fishes receipt out from 4 days ago).

£1.174/litre = £4.44/gallon = $8.16/gallon.

Hmmm. Not as bad as I thought.

[Dual Porpoise]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

The north shore has at least 200 years worth of current consumption supply.

What makes you think that? The United States Geological Survey has estimates it is only about 6 months worth.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Dual Porpoise 

What makes you think that?

Knowledge.

Originally Posted by Dual Porpoise 

The United States Geological Survey has estimates it is only about 6 months worth.

Originally Posted by Sarah Palin

With Russia wanting to control a vital pipeline in the Caucasus, and to divide and intimidate our European allies by using energy as a weapon, we cannot leave ourselves at the mercy of foreign suppliers.

To confront the threat that Iran might seek to cut off nearly a fifth of world energy supplies... or that terrorists might strike again at the Abqaiq facility in Saudi Arabia... or that Venezuela might shut off its oil deliveries... we Americans need to produce more of our own oil and gas.

And take it from a gal who knows the North Slope of Alaska: we've got lots of both.

D'ya really think she's talking about six months' worth?

The 200 years figure is from my own sources. I knew about this before I'd even heard of Palin.

[Dual Porpoise]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

The 200 years figure is from my own sources. I knew about this before I'd even heard of Palin.

This from the woman who said that Alaska provides 20% of the US energy needs? So what exactly makes you think that there are 200 years worth of oil use on the North Shore when the USGS says it's only six months? Forgive me if I find your explanation of 'my own sources' a little flimsy.

[brassplayersrock²]

Troll hungry.

[Dakar V]

Now I wonder who Dual Porpoise is.

[Dual Porpoise]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

Now I wonder who Dual Porpoise is.

???

[Dakar V]

You sound like someone who's been here before, perhaps still is.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Dual Porpoise 

This from the woman who said that Alaska provides 20% of the US energy needs? So what exactly makes you think that there are 200 years worth of oil use on the North Shore when the USGS says it's only six months? Forgive me if I find your explanation of 'my own sources' a little flimsy.

Yeah, whatever dude.
You carry on being screwed by the system - don't make any difference to me.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

Now I wonder who Dual Porpoise is.

zombie punk/Peeb, perhaps?

[Dakar V]

I still see zombie post occasionally. But that'd be retarded if they defaulted a 3rd account...

[Dual Porpoise]

Originally Posted by Dakar V 

You sound like someone who's been here before, perhaps still is.

Perhaps there just aren't that many ways to respond to someone who sounds like they're just making stuff up and trying to pass it off as fact.

[Dual Porpoise]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

Yeah, whatever dude.
You carry on being screwed by the system - don't make any difference to me.

Doofy, I thought it was a pretty reasonable question - you made the claim that there are 200 years worth of oil in the North Shore. That's surprising, given that no one who has an experience with the oil business (not even the companies wanting to drill there) thinks that. Can you explain why you made that claim?

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Dual Porpoise 

Can you explain why you made that claim?

Yes. I made the claim because it's the truth.

Now, if you dig around you can find the info for yourself. But I ain't going to put it on a platter for you.

[Dual Porpoise]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

Yes. I made the claim because it's the truth.

Now, if you dig around you can find the info for yourself. But I ain't going to put it on a platter for you.

Well, it's a rather outlandish claim, and without any supporting evidence it isn't very plausible. Your inability to substantiate it in any way speaks volumes to your credibility in this discussion.

[Dakar V]

Originally Posted by Dual Porpoise 

Perhaps

Perhaps, but not bloody likely.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Dual Porpoise 

Well, it's a rather outlandish claim, and without any supporting evidence it isn't very plausible. Your inability to substantiate it in any way speaks volumes to your credibility in this discussion.

Is there something wrong with your Google?

[Dual Porpoise]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

Is there something wrong with your Google?

Apparently. I can't find anyone credible who thinks there is more than 6 months to a year of oil there. Again, please do everyone the common courtesy of explaining why you made such an outlandish claim.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Dual Porpoise 

Again, please do everyone the common courtesy of explaining why you made such an outlandish claim.

Again, I made the claim because it's the truth.

Oooo. It's "everyone" now. I'm scared.

[Dual Porpoise]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

Again, I made the claim because it's the truth.
Oooo. It's "everyone" now. I'm scared.

Riiiight. I think we're done here. It's common courtesy to everyone reading that when you make a claim that is not supported by anyone else to explain your reasoning or your sources. Since you're just playing at trying to give everyone the run-around here and not contributing to the discussion at all, I'll say goodbye to you. I'm done feeding.

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by Doofy 

zombie punk/Peeb, perhaps?

yeah, seems to be another peeb alias.

[Dual Porpoise]

Originally Posted by Shaddim 

yeah, seems to be another peeb alias.

Sorry? Is there an 'in-joke' I'm missing out on, or does Doofy just always go on like this?
Shaddim - are you agreeing with the 200 year estimate?

[Shaddim]

I don't care about the 200 year estimate. It's all artificially manipulated by TPTB.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Dual Porpoise 

Riiiight. I think we're done here.

We were done a while back. You just didn't realise it.

Originally Posted by Dual Porpoise 

It's common courtesy to everyone reading that when you make a claim that is not supported by anyone else

By anyone else other than the next VP of the USA, you mean?

Originally Posted by Dual Porpoise 

I'll say goodbye to you.

Toodle pip.

[Dual Porpoise]

That was the most pointless waste of time I've had in a while, apparently I was the butt of a joke where the setup is to pretend that you are having a debate, when in fact you're just making things up. Hilarious. I'm literally on the floor, rolling with laughter. The wit! The charm! Change but a syllable and the whole delicate epigram collapses.

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[Shaddim]

Just put me on that list too, buttercup.

[Dual Porpoise]

Gladly. You won't be missed.

[Shaddim]

Back to important matters...


It's interesting that gas prices seem to have little, if any, connection with oil. The news just reported that the local pump prices have dipped to $3.29 this evening, despite oil nosing back over $100 /barrel.

[Dual Porpoise]

What's interesting about that?

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by Dual Porpoise 

What's interesting about that?

You put me on ignore, keep it that way.

[Dual Porpoise]

I didn't put you on ignore - by the way - why the hostility? What have I done to you to deserve the amount of aggression you're directing at me? Or are you just like that with everyone?