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Jun 10, 2004, 07:09 AM
 
Any new great themes? The scene's been pretty quiet lately... with boozo's new job and swiz's.... absence....

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Jun 10, 2004, 07:41 AM
 
I should be releasing Changeling in the next couple of days, I am hoping it will be great.
     
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Jun 10, 2004, 07:56 AM
 
I'm working myself on a couple of new themes (nothing very
spectacular but nice enough to be released) at a really slow
pace.. too much things to do right now with my family and
my job..
I hope to finish one of them in a month or so..
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Jun 10, 2004, 09:13 AM
 
Just waiting for BBX's, and Exec. Should be good.
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Jun 10, 2004, 09:23 AM
 
Contest themes are being worked on, and while work is going slow, it's five great themes in the works

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Jun 10, 2004, 10:22 AM
 
Originally posted by rezonate:
Just waiting for BBX's, and Exec. Should be good.
Ah yes, Omega. That certainly was a one-hit wonder, even without being released. It's like if the Beatles, at the pinnacle of their popularity, had said, "We're going to release a great new song that will revolutionize rock and roll," and then never did it.
     
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Jun 10, 2004, 11:20 AM
 
Wasn't Omega meant to be out in January, or thereabouts?
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Jun 10, 2004, 11:45 AM
 
We're actually still waiting for an update to ShapeShifter before Omega can be released I think.

1 Monkey at a typewriter could have updated it by now.

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Jun 10, 2004, 12:17 PM
 
Omega comes with shape shifter 1.5, I don't know why it's so difficult to understand.
     
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Jun 10, 2004, 12:24 PM
 
Anyone know when Shapeshifter 1.5 is coming out?
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Jun 10, 2004, 12:51 PM
 
Originally posted by rezonate:
Anyone know when Shapeshifter 1.5 is coming out?
Yes... Soon!!!
     
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Jun 10, 2004, 01:29 PM
 
I've been hard at work on ShapeShifter, there's lots of cool stuff in the works.

The problem, of course, is that I did all the easy (and quick!) stuff first, and you've already seen the end-product. Things get progressively more difficult as I proceed.
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Jun 10, 2004, 01:29 PM
 
Originally posted by MacDog:
Yes... Soon!!!
After ShapeShifter 1.3, 1.4, 1.4.5, 1.4.9, 1.4.9.1....

Oh, then the 1.5 alphas, betas, final candidates, gold masters, etc. etc.

Should be fun!

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Jun 10, 2004, 02:10 PM
 
Does anyone know which features Omega is waiting for from 1.5?
Are there new yummy features that I should know about? =)
I have a 'handful' of themes coming =)
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Jun 10, 2004, 02:41 PM
 
Originally posted by Dragon T:
Does anyone know which features Omega is waiting for from 1.5?
Are there new yummy features that I should know about? =)
I have a 'handful' of themes coming =)
I don't pre-announce features, so anything you might hear along these lines will be pure speculation. Sorry.
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Jun 10, 2004, 02:50 PM
 
Originally posted by smeger:
I don't pre-announce features, so anything you might hear along these lines will be pure speculation. Sorry.
you told bbx what features there will be in 1.5. or, bbx told you what features there better be in 1.5.
     
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Jun 10, 2004, 03:00 PM
 
That's not an announcement.

     
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Jun 10, 2004, 03:03 PM
 
:: watches thread slowly derail, then teeter back... then go right back to the edge of the cliff again ::
( Last edited by wibs; Jun 10, 2004 at 03:59 PM. )
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Jun 10, 2004, 03:13 PM
 
Originally posted by smeger:
I don't pre-announce features, so anything you might hear along these lines will be pure speculation. Sorry.
That's ok... I guess I was just reacting to the tail end of a rumour. =)
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Jun 10, 2004, 03:32 PM
 
I am glad that we aren't being teased with ShapeShifter 1.5 details. I don't think there should have ever been all the hype surrounding Omega, since it is now regarded as the 'theme that never was'.

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Jun 10, 2004, 03:40 PM
 
watches wibs watching thread....
     
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Jun 10, 2004, 03:41 PM
 
Originally posted by smeger:
I've been hard at work on ShapeShifter, there's lots of cool stuff in the works.

The problem, of course, is that I did all the easy (and quick!) stuff first, and you've already seen the end-product. Things get progressively more difficult as I proceed.

Hi, dude!

Don't worry. I think we are all aware of the awful amount of work you have put in ShapeSifter, and how it is increasingly difficult to get more and more complex features in. I wont say I don't expect it inpatiently, as by all means I do! But take your time, and make it be what you have been hoping for.

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Jun 10, 2004, 03:57 PM
 
I personally can't wait to see Calabi
     
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Jun 10, 2004, 04:47 PM
 
Originally posted by smeger:
I don't pre-announce features, so anything you might hear along these lines will be pure speculation. Sorry.
translation: stuck in a mudpit after hitting a brickwall.

as for omega or whatever it's called, if it's not worth releasing a version in it's

present state it's probably a disappointment compared to recent releases from

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Jun 10, 2004, 04:49 PM
 
Originally posted by quandarry:
as for omega or whatever it's called, if it's not worth releasing a version in it's

present state it's probably a disappointment compared to recent releases from

other sources.
It doesn't work right in it's present state. No one said anything about "worth releasing"

I don't blame the guy for not releasing a version that doesn't work right.

So many people ripping off themes.
     
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Jun 10, 2004, 05:19 PM
 
Originally posted by ambush:
I personally can't wait to see Calabi
Ditto.

I'd like to see any of the remaining themes be released soon, actually.

     
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Jun 10, 2004, 05:20 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
It doesn't work right in it's present state. No one said anything about "worth releasing"

I don't blame the guy for not releasing a version that doesn't work right.

So many people ripping off themes.
i said it...can't you get your grey matter around it?


oh so you are in the loop? what doesn't work? a button won't depress when pushed?

frankly i don't care and could care less if it ever shows up, but there are people here

that do. and quite frankly - what's his name, can't recall - started the baloney

himself many, many moons ago by starting a thread and it backfired.


ripped off themes on os x? where?

well i can think of one idiot, peter macwhinnie or something but he's been

straightened out.

otherwise i think you don't know anything, which you prove day in and day out

in the lounge where people tease you and make fun of you.

     
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Jun 10, 2004, 06:20 PM
 
Originally posted by quandarry:
i said it...can't you get your grey matter around it?


oh so you are in the loop? what doesn't work? a button won't depress when pushed?

frankly i don't care and could care less if it ever shows up, but there are people here

that do. and quite frankly - what's his name, can't recall - started the baloney

himself many, many moons ago by starting a thread and it backfired.


ripped off themes on os x? where?

well i can think of one idiot, peter macwhinnie or something but he's been

straightened out.

otherwise i think you don't know anything, which you prove day in and day out

in the lounge where people tease you and make fun of you.

hey, hey. its not BBX's fault he's so arrogant that once his theme is even show a tiny bit its going to be copied in a matter of no time.
     
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Jun 10, 2004, 06:28 PM
 
Personally I would like for ONCE to hear what ShapeShifter1.5 has to offer. And why 1.5!? Why not 1.3? Something really awesome has to happen, like transforming all Finder windows into round squares. Or convince Panic to send out an update to Audion3.0.2!

And that Omega-theme; it's just pixels for god's sake. How black can a black pixel get ? And in how many ways can a button look pushed when selected? Why not just release the sucker as a sort of try-out version with the "oh so great magically features" removed ?

Both ShapeShifter1.5 and Omega better have some sort of feature that will end world war and hunger or it will be considered vapourware.

Sorry but that Duality proggy sounds less vapourish as we go along. And as a person who bought nearly ALL Unsanity's apps, Why not say "well, since you are such a good customer we will let you in on a little secret: ShapeShifter1.5 will make warm popcorn and make coffee for you in the morning"

Stupid people says what ?
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Jun 10, 2004, 06:32 PM
 
:: continues watching as thread plunges off cliff ::

:: uses Super-Secret Ulta Beta Enhanced Edition ShapeShifter 1.5 to butter popcorn to eat while watching ::

disclaimer: I do not have a Super-Secret Ultra Beta Enhanced Edition of ShapeShifter 1.5, and to the best of my knowledge it would not butter popcorn even if I did have it
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Jun 10, 2004, 08:37 PM
 
:: takes a seat next to wibs ::

:: steals a handfull of popcorn ::

:: settles in to watch the thread go over the cliff ::
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Jun 10, 2004, 08:51 PM
 
ShapeShifter 1.5 does absolutely nothing magical whatsoever. It's simply the combination of all of the features that are being released in 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5. You've seen 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2, you haven't yet seen 1.3, 1.4, or 1.5. The upcoming features are cool, but they're not revolutionary, they're evolutionary.

SS 1.5 has gotten a lot of hype and I wish it hadn't, as there's absolutely no way it can live up to it. Will it be cool? I sure think so! Will it butter Wibs' popcorn? Hell no!
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Jun 10, 2004, 09:21 PM
 
Originally posted by smeger:
ShapeShifter 1.5 does absolutely nothing magical whatsoever. It's simply the combination of all of the features that are being released in 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5. You've seen 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2, you haven't yet seen 1.3, 1.4, or 1.5. The upcoming features are cool, but they're not revolutionary, they're evolutionary.

SS 1.5 has gotten a lot of hype and I wish it hadn't, as there's absolutely no way it can live up to it. Will it be cool? I sure think so! Will it butter Wibs' popcorn? Hell no!
Guys, think about ShapeShifter 1.2. It brought application skins, a minor revolution in itself. It brought unlimited sized window backgrounds, which opens up a huge realm of possibilities. It brought the foundations for guikit:// linking, which could be used very effectively in the future once other extras are wrapped into the format. It sped up theme loading by about ten fold. And probably other things I forgot to mention. Now imagine another similar update for 1.3, 1.4, and 1.5. I'm not gonna be disappointed.

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Originally posted by smeger:
Will it butter Wibs' popcorn? Hell no!
that... that was just uncalled for!

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Jun 10, 2004, 09:39 PM
 
Originally posted by phillryu:
Guys, think about ShapeShifter 1.2. It brought application skins, a minor revolution in itself.
Application Skinning was possible way before 1.2.
     
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Jun 10, 2004, 09:56 PM
 
Originally posted by fireside:
Application Skinning was possible way before 1.2.
Ah, the joys of manually switching resources or dealing with a different app for skinning each application.

Just because it was around doesn't mean it was easy, fun, or necessarily worth it. Would I ever in my life take the time to manually install a theme's elements for the Installer? Not a chance! Do I get a little smile when I notice a themer took the time to make it a part of a guiKit? Definitely.

Simply being first to market does not mean anything that comes later is no good. It just means it was first, and generally has all the bugs and flaws of anything exploring new territory. Thankfully other applications (aka ShapeShifter) know a good idea when they see it and learn from earlier mistakes.

I like ShapeShifter a lot, and I think Jason is great. But I'm not some SS fanboi - I'd still use something else (Duality?) if it was better. The fact is that there isn't anything better.
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Jun 10, 2004, 10:17 PM
 
yeah, that was a pain.


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Originally posted by wibs:
Ah, the joys of manually switching resources or dealing with a different app for skinning each application.

Just because it was around doesn't mean it was easy, fun, or necessarily worth it. Would I ever in my life take the time to manually install a theme's elements for the Installer? Not a chance! Do I get a little smile when I notice a themer took the time to make it a part of a guiKit? Definitely.

Simply being first to market does not mean anything that comes later is no good. It just means it was first, and generally has all the bugs and flaws of anything exploring new territory. Thankfully other applications (aka ShapeShifter) know a good idea when they see it and learn from earlier mistakes.

I like ShapeShifter a lot, and I think Jason is great. But I'm not some SS fanboi - I'd still use something else (Duality?) if it was better. The fact is that there isn't anything better.
no, no. you're misunderstanding me. everyone praises SS because of its many "firsts," while half of them were possible before hand. SafarIcon is an easy to use Safari button switcher, you personally don't have to manually replace anything, yet it was overlooked when SS 1.2 (or was it 1.1?) came along because it's now "that much easier." next thing you know, they'll be toting how they were the first to switch icons, when CandyBar has been doing that since 10.2.
     
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Jun 10, 2004, 11:04 PM
 
Originally posted by fireside:
no, no. you're misunderstanding me. everyone praises SS because of its many "firsts," while half of them were possible before hand. SafarIcon is an easy to use Safari button switcher, you personally don't have to manually replace anything, yet it was overlooked when SS 1.2 (or was it 1.1?) came along because it's now "that much easier." next thing you know, they'll be toting how they were the first to switch icons, when CandyBar has been doing that since 10.2.
Well, okay, there was SafarIcon. What else was there? There certainly weren't as many single installers for application makeovers as there are in ShapeShifter, and even if there were, I'm not so sure themers would skinning all the applications that they are now. Not to mention the fact that while SafarIcon was easy enough to use and was easier than replacing the elements manually, it was still annoying and slow.

Also, you go from saying that everyone else (i.e. not smeger/Unsanity) praises SS for it's "firsts" to saying that smeger/Unsanity will be claiming other "firsts" before we know it.

     
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Jun 11, 2004, 01:05 AM
 
I don't think we've ever claimed to be the first to offer app skinning. We're not, and I'm well aware of it. We are, however, the first to offer skinning for multiple apps in a single, safe, easy-to-use package.

It seems there's often a perception problem on the internet. Some random person will say something about ShapeShifter or about APE or whatever, and later, that quote gets attributed to Unsanity when we never actually said anything about it.
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Jun 11, 2004, 01:21 AM
 
Originally posted by fireside:
Application Skinning was possible way before 1.2.
Sure. But I'd call having 15 application skins installed on one click along with a theme a minor revolution. In the past, this would involve switching a theme, applying a skin in Safaricon, applying a skin in iChat Themer, then opening package installers for any others that themers may have included, which were almost always none. Fun huh?

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Jun 11, 2004, 05:08 AM
 
Who cares about BBX ? I've waited so long I won't even like it...
And about SS 1.5 ? Unsanity has done a great job, and SS works perfect ! Why always wait for the next release when the current is good ?
     
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Jun 11, 2004, 11:45 AM
 
Ok back to our main topic...

What's coming soon? I don't know 'cuz I don't own a crystal ball, but...

For starters, Izawa has been very silent lately
I sincerely hope he's whipping up something yummy for us all...

I might be wrong, but isn't Max doing NickelCobalt? And what contest winner is Swiz doing again? I hope Swiz isn't retiring for real this time!!!

And if any themer is looking for inspiration, I'd go nuts over a theme inspired by this
That'd be suh-weet Since alot of texture is involded on that pic, the allmighty Dragon Tongue might be interested? Pleeeaaaaase?

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Jun 11, 2004, 04:48 PM
 
It's not really worth mentioning, but I've started on my first theme. It's semi-dark, and will probably have a konfab widdget to go with it. It'll probably be out sometime after Shapesifter 2.999999999.2 (it would be out sooner, but I'm going to try and dual release it for osx/linux.)


Of course, it's probably going to suck, but if you dig sucky themes, you can look forward to it!
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Originally posted by fireside:
next thing you know, they'll be toting how they were the first to switch icons, when CandyBar has been doing that since 10.2.
I sure hope they don't. Both Duality 3 and 4 have icon set changers. They wouldn't even be the first theme changer to do icons.
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Originally posted by quandarry:
     
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Originally posted by FB Eye:
Ok back to our main topic...
...if any themer is looking for inspiration, I'd go nuts over a theme inspired by this
That'd be suh-weet Since alot of texture is involded on that pic, the allmighty Dragon Tongue might be interested? Pleeeaaaaase?
sure ... I'll give that a try =)
a nice challenge =) lol
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