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Original MacPro1,1 - any more I can do?
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Apr 29, 2011, 09:56 AM
 
Arriving today is the Apple ATI 5770; an upgrade from the stock Nvidia card.

I already performed the CPU upgrade; from the stock 2 x dual core 2.66Ghz to 2 x quad core 3.00Ghz.

Also have upped the memory to 16GB (8 x 2GB sticks). I know it can go to 32GB but I'm not getting page outs on a regular basis now.

OS/app disk is a 128GB (115GB usable) SSD.

other drive slots are for data/projects; various sized 7200rpm SATA disks with Time Machine backups to an external 4TB RAID.

Anything else I can do for upgrades/speed? Hope to get another 2+ years out of it

Uses of the machine include ProTools/other Avid stuff; CS5, Final Cut and basic web work.

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Apr 29, 2011, 11:10 AM
 
Hardware RAID card and more SSDs is about it.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Apr 29, 2011, 11:23 AM
 
thanks; didn't think much more i can do.

SSDs will be on hold until the price/size ratio comes down some more. 400GB SSDs are just too much; and 1TB SATAs for $60 or less will work for now. but the SSDs are on my sights all the time.
     
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Apr 29, 2011, 11:59 AM
 
How is the external TM RAID connected? If it's not eSATA, an eSATA card would allow TM to complete a lot faster. Except TM works in the background, and with 8 cores, it's not a drag on CPU either.

Perhaps you could upgrade to some games. For the moment, I agree you're topped out on the hardware.

hmm ... peripherals. Upgraded to dual 30" monitors yet? Or a Tactile Pro keyboard?
     
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Apr 29, 2011, 12:49 PM
 
the external RAID is via gig enet; as it is a shared TM destination for several other machines too. i think for the current setup at the house that's the best setup.

i had dual 24" for awhile; just went back to a singe 27" though...don't have the space really for the setup.

i got the standard wired apple keyboard and mouse...hahaha; pretty boring there

games...sounds good. like what?
     
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Apr 29, 2011, 12:54 PM
 
the 5770 just showed up; time to install.

as for games though...i like racing and Age of Empires style games (not counting original arcade type games; but i have other sources for that).
     
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Apr 29, 2011, 01:12 PM
 
5770 installed; nice.
     
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Apr 29, 2011, 03:16 PM
 
Actually having said that about the Apple RAID card, I don't think any current SSDs have supported firmware and since its the older Pro they most probably never will. They may work but I have a feeling there is something else that means its not a great idea to use SSDs on those RAIDs. Many SSDs have internal RAIDs of their own anyway.

Your best bet is to hope that OCZ make drivers for their PCI-E based SSDs. Wouldn't hold your breath though. (They work, but not bootable).
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Apr 29, 2011, 05:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
Actually having said that about the Apple RAID card, I don't think any current SSDs have supported firmware and since its the older Pro they most probably never will. They may work but I have a feeling there is something else that means its not a great idea to use SSDs on those RAIDs. Many SSDs have internal RAIDs of their own anyway.

Your best bet is to hope that OCZ make drivers for their PCI-E based SSDs. Wouldn't hold your breath though. (They work, but not bootable).
i have the 128GB (115 actual size rest is the overhead for data protection) of this as my OS/boot disk:

OWC Mercury Extreme Pro Solid State Drive (SSD) Solutions - High Performance, Reliability, and Endurance

and they have these that are RAID ready...whatever that means:

OWC Mercury Extreme Pro RE Solid State Drive (SSD) RAID Ready - High Performance, Reliability, and Endurance
     
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Apr 29, 2011, 09:19 PM
 
I just picked the same Mac Pro a few days ago and I'm pretty stoked! I wasn't even aware that you could upgrade the processor. What model processor did you upgrade to and where did you purchase it from? I also use my Mac Pro for Pro Tools/Final Cut Pro stuff too.
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz Dual-Quad Core • iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo • MacBook Pro 15" 2.0 GHz i7 Quad Core
     
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Apr 29, 2011, 11:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by laieboy View Post
I just picked the same Mac Pro a few days ago and I'm pretty stoked! I wasn't even aware that you could upgrade the processor. What model processor did you upgrade to and where did you purchase it from? I also use my Mac Pro for Pro Tools/Final Cut Pro stuff too.
here are some links on the CPU upgrade:

Upgrading a 2006 Apple Mac Pro 1,1 with 2 Xeon X5355 Processors. | Waiting Outside. Photography, geek and gadget reviews

Apple's Mac Pro - Upgrading CPUs, Memory & Running XP - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

The max processor you can put in them are the Xeon X5365; which is what i put in. The guides above where created before those chips were out on the market for sale. Mine were pulls from another upgrade project.
     
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Apr 30, 2011, 07:54 PM
 
How much you pay for those CPUs? Last time I checked, each XEON cost ~$700 which made this hard to justify.
     
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May 1, 2011, 10:15 AM
 
Originally Posted by cgc View Post
How much you pay for those CPUs? Last time I checked, each XEON cost ~$700 which made this hard to justify.
As stated above; mine were pulls from another upgrade project. Meaning, no cost.
     
   
 
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