[stwain2003]

I'm going to step out on a ledge here and say the 3G iPhone. Apple tried to screw us over by dropping the price two months later. Why wouldn't they give us 10x faster internet six months later? Well, maybe not after the millions that Apple lost after the price drop.

[stwain2003]

Originally Posted by imitchellg5 

The PowerBook G5 and Mac mini G5. And a widescreen iBook.

I'd buy one of each in a heartbeat. Screw speed! I could finally say I have a PowerBook G5!

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally Posted by stwain2003 

I'm going to step out on a ledge here and say the 3G iPhone. Apple tried to screw us over by dropping the price two months later. Why wouldn't they give us 10x faster internet six months later? Well, maybe not after the millions that Apple lost after the price drop.

I'm assuming you meant "after the millions that Apple gained after the price drop." Sure, they had to give a number of rebates, but they never lost money. Also, there was a LARGE sales spike after the rebate (heck, even I thought about getting one!).

Come next fall, I'm drinking the cool-aid and picking one up.

[Andy8]

It will be a slimming show:

1. Slimmer Mac Mini
2. Slimmer Apple TV
3. Slimmed down MacBook or MacBook Pro for the road
4. Slimmer retail packaging for the above

[imitchellg5]

King 5 news in Seattle pretty much confirmed iTunes rentals a few days ago. They said Fox was the first to get on board and they made it sound like rentals were already actually available through iTunes.

[chris v]

Powermac G6 Dodecahedron Mini-tower!

Hell, I don't know. I think the Apple TV is due for big revision, or the axe. One of the two.

Also, the stock will drop by 10 points that day or the next, due to unrealistic expectations, which creates a buying opportunity. Save your $$ and watch for it to go below 175 then BUY, BUY, BUY@@!!11!

[alligator]

Yes, like every year, people will be disappointed Apple didn't match our expectations exactly. Apple will, of course, have a reason - like the fact that Photoshopped mock-ups don't always work well in real life. Take that extra long track pad for example. Where do you rest your wrists when you type?

[darkmatter]

Hi, my 5 cents go to:

- iPhone rest of Europe starting february, Japan 2Q
- The announced iPhone SDK, and rumored new firmware features
- New Hardware result of evolution of Apple TV, Quick Look capabilities and other Mac OS X 10.5 features
- The everywhere rumored movie rentals and new iTunes version
- Ultra-thin Cinema Displays

I don't think that new Mac Pros, new Mac minis and new Macbooks come all together in one event.

I don't think that the next iPhone will be presented physically, maybe just some specifications. The iPhone will go 3G after the planed 10 million are first sold. A 16 Gbyte one would be nice, but seems that only one model is the current strategy. Of course you can throw me some tomatoes after the keynote.

The hope:
Integrated HSDPA sub notebook without optical disk and 24 hours battery life

Best Regards

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by BadKosh 

No more Mini

Yes, it will be the size of a candy bar and called the Mac nano

-t

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by alligator 

Yes, like every year, people will be disappointed Apple didn't match our expectations exactly. Apple will, of course, have a reason - like the fact that Photoshopped mock-ups don't always work well in real life. Take that extra long track pad for example. Where do you rest your wrists when you type?

As mentioned earlier in the thread, Apple actually did file for a patent on this, and the patent addressed the "What do I do with my wrists?" question.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by Eug 

I've been wondering if they incorporate true commercial hi-def optical disc support (Blu-ray and/or HD DVD), but my guess is no. If they did do it though, it'd come with a new Mac Pro (which is due for an update).

Oh and no 3G iPhone either yet.

Maybe a new small form factor pro laptop.

Quiet release of an updated Mac mini? Nah. Too early.

Maybe a new Xserve. (And yes they have announced Xserves at Macworld before.)

No iTablet.

I'd probably buy a Mac mini IF it got these spec updates:

1) 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo
2) GMA X3100
3) HDMI with HDCP support

I expect none of the above at Macworld, and perhaps only #2 when it finally does get updated, in the spring. Maybe I'll get what I want by fall.

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

As mentioned earlier in the thread, Apple actually did file for a patent on this, and the patent addressed the "What do I do with my wrists?" question.

So what did it say?

[PaperNotes]

I'll buy an eight core Mac Pro in a few months if they include a Geforce 9 series option. It will be my first desktop in six years.

[0157988944]

Originally Posted by Eug 

So what did it say?

That there would be technology (probably similar to the iPhone proximity sensor) to detect when you were resting.

[imitchellg5]

Originally Posted by adamfishercox 

That there would be technology (probably similar to the iPhone proximity sensor) to detect when you were resting.

I think I remember something like that. However, with the clicker, it looks like an uncomfortable place to wrest your wrist. And typing would probably accidentally make you click on stuff unintentionally.

[TomR]

Apple, PLEASE KEEP THE MINIS! Seriously. I love my G4!

[lpkmckenna]

1. subnotebook with external optical drive.
2. a merged TV/Mac mini/home server, no optical drive, but you can use the external one.
3. iPhone/iTouch updates including new apps and games
4. Mac Pro update with Blu-Ray
5. Game demos: Unreal Tournament 3 and Gears of War.
6. New Aperture and Aperture Express.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

The thin and light made no sense to me until I saw those patents where it can neatly dock into a screen.

I think this is a great idea as I could use the power of a laptop I just want a larger screen for home. I know I can do video out but I hate swapping cables and I want a 30" screen.

It might even be interesting if the DVD drive and an extra hard drive were built into the screen/imac.

[awaspaas]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

The thin and light made no sense to me until I saw those patents where it can neatly dock into a screen.

I think this is a great idea as I could use the power of a laptop I just want a larger screen for home. I know I can do video out but I hate swapping cables and I want a 30" screen.

It might even be interesting if the DVD drive and an extra hard drive were built into the screen/imac.

Wasn't DuoDock a horrible failure? I'm not sure how this is an improvement, but I honestly haven't thought about it that much.

[imitchellg5]

Originally Posted by awaspaas 

Wasn't DuoDock a horrible failure? I'm not sure how this is an improvement, but I honestly haven't thought about it that much.

Yeah it was.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by imitchellg5 

Yeah it was.

Was it because of the price and performance? they could do it much better today.

The G4 cube tanked when it came out as it was expensive. The Mini 5 years later was smaller and cheaper and did rather well.

[imitchellg5]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

Was it because of the price and performance? they could do it much better today.

The G4 cube tanked when it came out as it was expensive. The Mini 5 years later was smaller and cheaper and did rather well.

If I remember right it was mostly price, and most people didn't seem to think it was worth a premium.

[Kerrigan]

Frankly, the DuoDock idea is unaesthetic. I don't think Jobs would approve of selling something that looks like a computer but is non-functional until you slide a laptop into it. As I said, it is just an unaesthetic idea to me.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan 

Frankly, the DuoDock idea is unaesthetic.

As unaesthetic as the fat nano ?

Apple would surely never do that...

-t

[Paco500]

I would not call the DuoDock a horrible failure. Keep in mind that the Duo and Duo Dock came out during the dark times of Apple, and not much sold well, so it probably did not shift many units. But compared to other Apple laptops of the era, it sold pretty well. Well enough to have at least 4 revisions.

I was working in IT at Nortel back then- and we had the largest AppleTalk network in the world- much bigger than even Apple's. I would say that at least 50% of laptops we bought were Duos.

They were great machines- I personally had 2.

[edit]

I just googled it. They were in production for 5 years and had 7 different revisions. Not what I would call a failure of a product.

[Paco500]

Originally Posted by imitchellg5 

Yeah it was.

I'm not trying to bust your chops- but the Duo's came out in the mid 90's- when I'm guessing you were in elementary school. What are you basing this comment on? You didn't see many on the playground?

[slpdLoad]

Here's the latest thinbook mockup I've seen:



Somehow I don't think a multi-touch trackpad will go over well. All the multitouch devices I've seen are intuitive because you work directly on the screen.

[packet of krisps]

Originally Posted by imitchellg5 

The PowerBook G5

Think secret leaked some pics on that...the touch pad still looks a little big for it to be real, but I think its definitely close.

[awaspaas]

Originally Posted by packet of krisps 

Think secret leaked some pics on that...the touch pad still looks a little big for it to be real, but I think its definitely close.

OMG that's so sexy!

[goMac]

Originally Posted by alligator 

Yes, like every year, people will be disappointed Apple didn't match our expectations exactly. Apple will, of course, have a reason - like the fact that Photoshopped mock-ups don't always work well in real life. Take that extra long track pad for example. Where do you rest your wrists when you type?

Apple actually has a patent on a trackpad like that, along with a patent on how to avoid accidental input from such a trackpad while you type.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by goMac 

Apple actually has a patent on a trackpad like that, along with a patent on how to avoid accidental input from such a trackpad while you type.

[brassplayersrock²]

"swg" what app did you use for the red circle? or did you use a tablet, or did you just put it into a text editor and make the circle?

[Uncle Skeleton]

I bet he used an extra wide track pad...

[rickey939]

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² 

"swg" what app did you use for the red circle? or did you use a tablet, or did you just put it into a text editor and make the circle?

MS Word - Extra Wide Edition

[cSurfr]

Originally Posted by packet of krisps 

Think secret leaked some pics on that...the touch pad still looks a little big for it to be real, but I think its definitely close.

Reminds me of the Compaq Luggable

[osiris]

I predict that Apple's stock price will drop $10 a share during Macworld, then rise $20 by Wednesday 10 am.
And the major purchaser will have a blue shirt on, and no shoes.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by packet of krisps 

Think secret leaked some pics on that...the touch pad still looks a little big for it to be real, but I think its definitely close.

Brings back memories.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by Paco500 

I'm not trying to bust your chops- but the Duo's came out in the mid 90's- when I'm guessing you were in elementary school. What are you basing this comment on? You didn't see many on the playground?

I was in elementary school in the '80s, but I still feel relatively confident Betamax failed.

[Eug]

I am waiting for Macworld, even though all I really want at the moment is a Bluetooth keyboard. You never know what weird and wonderful things Apple will dream up to change my purchasing priorities.

[brassplayersrock²]

The Apple Store (U.S.) - Apple Wireless Keyboard

^ Apple branded bluetooth keyboard

[Eug]

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² 

The Apple Store (U.S.) - Apple Wireless Keyboard

^ Apple branded bluetooth keyboard

I already own an Apple branded Bluetooth keyboard so I'm well aware they exist.

However, I was considering getting the wireless keyboard (and mouse) for my Cube, but Macworld releases a new product that blows my mind, I may put the money towards that instead.

[Paco500]

Originally Posted by Chuckit 

I was in elementary school in the '80s, but I still feel relatively confident Betamax failed.

I hadn't considered that- that the whole PowerBook Duo drama played out with the same media scrutiny of the Betamax vs. VHS battle. Good point.

[edit]

More snarky than intended. My point was that the Duo was not a flop by most measures, certainly compared to other Apple products of the time, and I was curious what he was basing his assertion that it failed on. Certainly not actual history.

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES 

The G4 cube tanked when it came out as it was expensive.

I think it tanked because Apple didn't do a good enough job explaining to people that it wasn't an iMac, it was a full fledged G4 tower computer stuck into an 8" cube. The idea that it was too expensive stemmed from people thinking it was nothing more than an iMac.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by olePigeon 

I think it tanked because Apple didn't do a good enough job explaining to people that it wasn't an iMac, it was a full fledged G4 tower computer stuck into an 8" cube. The idea that it was too expensive stemmed from people thinking it was nothing more than an iMac.

No, the idea that it was too expensive stemmed from the fact it was too expensive.

It had the price of the Power Mac, but little of its expandibility.

Beautiful to be sure (and I own two of them), but great functional bang for the buck it was not.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by olePigeon 

I think it tanked because Apple didn't do a good enough job explaining to people that it wasn't an iMac, it was a full fledged G4 tower computer stuck into an 8" cube. The idea that it was too expensive stemmed from people thinking it was nothing more than an iMac.

No, the idea that it was too expensive stemmed from the fact that you could not expand the computer like you were able to do with the real towers.

So you got an unexpandable tower (= iMac) for the price for a full-fledged tower...

Edit: well, Eug beat me to it...

-t

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by olePigeon 

it was a full fledged G4 tower computer stuck into an 8" cube.

One of the biggest draws to the tower configuration is, well, configuration. The cube was not user-upgradable, so to call it a full fledged G4 tower is a bit of a stretch.

...too slow, mr skeleton, too slow

[lpkmckenna]

Yes it was upgradable. The user could replace the video card and hard drive easily. I don't know how many cards were actually available, though.

[lpkmckenna]

Originally Posted by olePigeon 

I think it tanked because Apple didn't do a good enough job explaining to people that it wasn't an iMac, it was a full fledged G4 tower computer stuck into an 8" cube. The idea that it was too expensive stemmed from people thinking it was nothing more than an iMac.

No, it was too expensive. It was more expensive than the cheapest G4 tower.

[Eug]

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna 

Yes it was upgradable. The user could replace the video card and hard drive easily. I don't know how many cards were actually available, though.

IIRC, the GeForce 2 MX with the massive heatsink - the version appropriate for the Cube - was rare as hen's teeth after market.

The biggest drawback was the above, and the fact you couldn't use a desktop drive. You could have a DVD-ROM drive, or a CD-RW, but not both at the same time.

[analogue SPRINKLES]

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna 

No, it was too expensive. It was more expensive than the cheapest G4 tower.

Ya that is what killed it. You paid for the cool design and size. I was happy to pay it but many wasn't.

[brassplayersrock²]

weren't