[bborofka]

The problem with car analogies is that all cars are still going to be able to drive on all the roads. It's not like a BMW can only drive on 3% of the roads.

[Zoom]

Originally posted by bborofka:
The problem with car analogies is that all cars are still going to be able to drive on all the roads. It's not like a BMW can only drive on 3% of the roads.

The car analogy has lots of holes, but most analogies do. You can still make the argument, though. Add that to my list of differences between the BMW and the Honda. In addition to all that: you can only drive your BMW on a small subset of roads.

If your analogy is trying to address the software shortage due to different OS's and hardware support, it's not really that bad - that is, the "BMW" can drive on (effectively) much more than 3% of the roads. You can use all the major apps on a Mac: mail, web browser, Office, most popular games, etc. Most of the hardware, too, is compatible: RAM, hard drives, optical drives, USB devices, FW devices, etc. So the analogy might be that you can drive to most big cities, but not all neighborhoods... and technically, to really complete this analogy, the "BMW" roads are parallel to the "Honda" roads, tend to be completed after the Honda roads, aren't as maintained as well as the Honda roads (though you could argue that they need less maintainence in the first place), and are safer than the Honda roads (due to lack of travel, bandits tend to ignore them).

See, you can make it work!

Anyway, your point is well taken. I know it's a tired analogy and many people hate it, more because it's used all the time than because it's weak, I think. But there are very few really expensive things that many people own with such diverse functionalities and properties. Despite its shortcomings, I have yet to hear a better, well-rounded analogy for PC vs Mac, without getting completely fictional.

[OB1]

Originally posted by Zoom:
the single-button Apple mouse is just an anachronistic paperweight.

sorry to join in the thread-derail.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by bborofka:
It's not like a BMW can only drive on 3% of the roads.

So on how many raods can your PC drive ?

-t

[Zoom]

AppleInsider has a small note about the new iMac. Nothing new, really.

[iDaver]

Originally posted by Zoom:
Nothing new, really.

No kidding; nothing like a "news" story with nothing other than an assumption that there will be new products at the Paris Expo. Sources, schmources.

[Link]

Originally posted by bborofka:
The problem with car analogies is that all cars are still going to be able to drive on all the roads. It's not like a BMW can only drive on 3% of the roads.

It's not like the Macs can run only 3% of the programs in existence either

Which would be entirely wrong. Quite possibly the opposite, in fact, since windows doesn't easily run GTK/X11/other apps that could easily be recompiled to run NATIVELY with no special interpreters in OS X

[Zoom]

The wait is nearly over, and thank God for that. I'm more than ready to find out just what this new beast is going to be. I must say that the rumors of the AIO "fat display" design are lowering my expectations considerably. On way or the other, we'll know in a little over two days.

[Eriamjh]

Has anything in this thread come up now that the headless iMac has been leaked?

[mactropolis]

Oppz

[teknopimp]

Originally posted by Eriamjh:
Has anything in this thread come up now that the headless iMac has been leaked?

Yes: All requests have been fulfilled.

[chrisutley]

VESA mount? Forget about that... if this box is real, it will be a box with a place to plug in either DVI or VGA via and adapter, end of story.

Can u imagine windows weenies coming to Mac... they would be like VESA what? Huh? I got a 17" Dell flat panel at home, can I just please plug it in and be done with it????

[mac-at-kearsarge]

***Soory, I usually don't ressurect old threads like this, But when I stumbled across this (while looking for something else) I had to comment***

Well in the few months since this thread was started apperently Apple had the same ideas (perhaps Steve read this thread?).

I just find it very funny that you guys seems to have gotten exactly what you wanted: Both the quasi-headless iMac that could be wall/arm mounted with VESA and now the Mac Mini for a completely headless concept. Weird

[OB1]

Hear us, we have cash to spend.

[babywriter2]

Let me just say, as the instigator of this thread, that I am COMPLETELY satisfied by what Apple has delivered with the Mac mini. As soon as I can swing it, there will be one in my home.

-b

[funkboy]

I'm wondering how many people are of the opinion:

I'd really like one, but I won't be getting one for awhile.

How many of us really will purchase one? I wonder if this will really be a hit, or just another Cube?

[supernature]

Mac mini vs Dell mini
So here's my comparison of the two

Mac mini = $826
Dell 4700c = $917

Apple vs Dell
1.42ghz G4 vs P4 2.8ghz
Dell 17" s model vs Dell 17" c model
stereo out jack vs 5.1
32MB video vs 64 MB video
2 USB vs 7 USB ports
no PCI vs half height PCI
AppleWorks vs Wordperfect Productivity Pack
Quicken 2005 vs none
Garageband vs none

(other hardware and software had similarly matched items from both)

[Eriamjh]

Originally posted by supernature:
Mac mini vs Dell mini
So here's my comparison of the two

Mac mini = $826
Dell 4700c = $917

Apple vs Dell
1.42ghz G4 vs P4 2.8ghz
Dell 17" s model vs Dell 17" c model
stereo out jack vs 5.1
32MB video vs 64 MB video
2 USB vs 7 USB ports
no PCI vs half height PCI
AppleWorks vs Wordperfect Productivity Pack
Quicken 2005 vs none
Garageband vs none

(other hardware and software had similarly matched items from both)

Does the Dell come with any of these?
iMovie HD (for HD) vs. ???
iMovie HD (for SD) vs. crappy M$ Video Editor
iPhoto vs. ???

and most important of all:
none vs. a sh*tload of viruses, trojans, worms, etc.

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally posted by Eriamjh:
Does the Dell come with any of these?
iMovie HD (for HD) vs. ???
iMovie HD (for SD) vs. crappy M$ Video Editor
iPhoto vs. ???

and most important of all:
none vs. a sh*tload of viruses, trojans, worms, etc.

You could also argue that the mini is quieter and MUCH smaller.

[Eriamjh]

Since all other mini threads are being locked, I'll use this one.

I propose this to Apple as the NEXT Mac mini: Make it take up less space by making it BIGGER.

YES! Here's how: Build it into the keyboard.

Everyone has to have a keyboard on their desk anyway - so eliminate the CPU. Using the space-management techniques, have the CD/DVD stick out the side, the USB, DVI, FW, etc ports on the back, and the HD built it spread out nice and thin. It would be just like the old Commodore 64s (or any other non-PC computer built before IBM PCs became the standard) just not as bulky.

No more "buy your own keyboard". Find a way to route the DVI signals through the power brick and the user would only have one cable coming out of the unit (the brick becomes the octopus).

What d'yall think?

[turtle777]

Originally posted by Eriamjh:
What d'yall think?

No way, Jose.

I'd rather have it behind the LCD screen like in the iMac.
But actually, I just like it the way it is. No need for some weird other design...

-t

[jsares]

Checkout my blog for a great deal on a Mac mini bundle for $670 with 17" LCD, keyboard, mouse, and printer.

Are you interested in bundles like this or are you planning to reuse you current LCD, Keyboard, etc?

Jason