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Leonard · Sep 23, 2009, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

It would have to be a vehicle-heavy level, I suppose.

But even then, I'd imagine you can't shoot the vehicle weapons, just run over people.

Stogieman · Sep 23, 2009, 02:26 PM

Yep. I also read that it counts against you when you're driving the Warthog and someone else is shooting the turret.

I'm about halfway through the campaign and it's actually quite challenging on solo. Each gun has limited ammo so you're constantly swapping out weapons. 4 Player Legendary is the way to go. You can blow through some of the levels that normally take a long time to complete on solo. Haven't had a chance to try out Firefight yet but so far I'm really digging the campaign levels and the new weapons.

Chuckit · Sep 23, 2009, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Leonard

But even then, I'd imagine you can't shoot the vehicle weapons, just run over people.

That's still a hell of a lot easier than meleeing your way through a level.

The Final Dakar · Sep 23, 2009, 02:51 PM

Does it have to be done single player? Because being a tourist with three other players seems rather obvious.

Chuckit · Sep 23, 2009, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Does it have to be done single player? Because being a tourist with three other players seems rather obvious.

It says "solo."

The Final Dakar · Sep 23, 2009, 03:03 PM

Well, there's always the Spartan Stelios method – jump in a ghost and splatter everything you see.

The Final Dakar · Sep 23, 2009, 03:29 PM

Wasn't ODST supposed to be the first game that supported avatar awards? Google doesn't provide any answers at the moment.

Andy8 · Sep 23, 2009, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Well, there's always the Spartan Stelios method – jump in a ghost and splatter everything you see.

Ah yes, those were the days. Sadly, no more Spartan Stelios tag to use, and my current tag O8080 is only just finding its ghost feet again. (my gold live account expires in 2 week, so considering a new tag again perhaps or keep my O8080)

Andy8 · Sep 23, 2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Being a tourist with three other players seems rather obvious.

Exactly.

Leonard · Sep 23, 2009, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

Each gun has limited ammo so you're constantly swapping out weapons. 4 Player Legendary is the way to go. You can blow through some of the levels that normally take a long time to complete on solo. Haven't had a chance to try out Firefight yet but so far I'm really digging the campaign levels and the new weapons.

From what I can tell, there is fairly limited ammo on firefight too. But then I probably haven't been making the best use of ammo and enemy weapons. what can I say, I love that SMG. I've played 2 games of Crater firefight and haven't finished one yet.

I'll have to start a solo campaign game of ODST this weekend, just don't know if I should try it on Normal or Heroic.

Of course I've been trying to play Wolfenstein too. Not a bad game, if Raven/Activision got an update out for it to prevent the freeze bug (and fix the mulltiplayer), it would be great - you could replay levels.

Stogieman · Sep 24, 2009, 02:01 PM

I see that loser Bogues has pasted me up in ODST achievements. Looks like we have another race in our hands.

Leonard · Sep 24, 2009, 08:49 PM

Man, he's flying thru the achievements! He's got over half of them!

What's he gonna play next week?

Leonard · Sep 25, 2009, 09:36 PM

Ooooh, first ODST style Double EXP weekend. I'll have to check this out, in between playing the campaign.

I started a Halo ODST campaign on Heroic, so I can start c,aching up to Bogues on achievements, and I have to say, I'm enjoying it more than I enjoyed Halo 3.

Stogieman · Sep 26, 2009, 02:44 AM

Yeah, I too am enjoying ODST's campaign more than I did Halo 3.

Chuckit · Sep 26, 2009, 12:58 PM

Agreed. I felt like a lot more work went into Halo 3 multiplayer, while ODST is obviously more campaign-centric.

Leonard · Sep 26, 2009, 10:58 PM

Ok, I hate Hunters. Damn things killed me 3 or more times I think, until I found a spot where I could get a shot at their backs. If only I found that spot earlier.

Just in case I run into another bunch, besides the red patch on their back, is there any other vulnerable spot?

Stogieman · Sep 26, 2009, 11:52 PM

Two sticky grenades will kill a hunter. Doesn't matter where you stick them.

Chuckit · Sep 27, 2009, 02:37 AM

Stickies or snipe their necks.

The Final Dakar · Sep 28, 2009, 11:24 AM

Alright, I ordered the game. Not because I'm excited for it (I am, mildly), but because if I keep playing CoD4 at this rate, I'll be sick of the game by the time MW2 comes out.

Stogieman · Sep 28, 2009, 11:47 AM

Did you pay full price?

The Final Dakar · Sep 28, 2009, 11:50 AM

My god, no.

Stogieman · Sep 28, 2009, 02:12 PM

So what's the ETA for your copy of ODST? I'm putting together a group for firefight achievements.

The Final Dakar · Sep 28, 2009, 02:15 PM

Pencil me in for the weekend, tentatively.

klb5090 · Sep 28, 2009, 07:55 PM

pencil me in..... more like sharpie me in!

Leonard · Sep 28, 2009, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

My god, no.

Although I paid the full $100 dollars for my collector's edition (game + a controller), I would have to admit I'm not sure it's worth the full price. It's an excellent game, but we already had the multiplayer.

On another note, does anyone know what you get with the Road to Recon achievements - I believe there are 7 of them? I have 3 of them now - just got the Brainpan one. Some diehard must have gotten them all by now.

Stogieman · Sep 29, 2009, 02:39 AM

It unlocks recon armor for multiplayer. I got all 4 vidmaster challenges for Halo 3. Still need to get the final 3 for ODST.

Stogieman · 03:05 AM

Here's the stats from my most current Firefight match. As you can see, I really love the pistol in this game.

Bungie.net : Halo 3 ODST Firefight Game : Alpha Site (Co-Op) : 09.27.2009 1:28 AM

For those of you that don't have silverlight installed:

I was pleasantly surprised to find out the 200k firefight achievements are based on team score not individual.

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 09:09 AM

Does that imply a two hour duration?

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by klb5090

pencil me in..... more like sharpie me in!

Hey, I'd like to be sharpied in, but Amazon has a nasty habit of dragging their feet with my video game purchases.

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 09:13 AM

Oh, is there a theater mode for ODST?

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Leonard

I'm not sure it's worth the full price.

Not sure? If the campaign is about equal to Halo 3s the Firefight mode would have to be as deep as Halo 3s multi for them to be both worth $60. Somehow, I doubt that is the case.

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 09:18 AM

Microsoft says Halo 3: ODST disc read errors aren't 'widespread'

You guys have any issues?

What I fins particularly galling is a small amount of the people in comments seem to be reporting consistently laggy gameplay and achievement popups.

The ODST disk however...Game invites, achievements, friend online...all notifications seem to be laggy for me. Sometimes. I got 200,000 on Crater today and it was instant. Audiophile was pretty instant too. But all of the "Finished such-and-such Campaign level on Normal, Heroic or Legendary" and "Found a clue" are really delayed....on one I checked my achievements, saw I unlocked it, and got the notification 30 seconds later.

And again, friend online and game invites seem to also have laggy notifications

Chuckit · Sep 29, 2009, 11:20 AM

Haven't found any issues here so far. The lag for achievements has always seemed a little bit inconsistent to me on 360 — I thought that was just how its notification system worked.

And yes, there's theater mode.

Stogieman · Sep 29, 2009, 11:59 AM

1. 2 hour duration? - Yes but there was only 2 players in that match. I heard that it takes about 1.5 hours to fully complete a firefight level with 4 players.

2. ODST Theater Mode? - Yes. Sorry, I haven't had any time to post screenshots. Maybe tonight.

3. Lag - I haven't experienced any lag in game play.... until last night. It was almost unplayable at times. Game invites are extremely laggy. I sent a game invite to my brother last night and the little "invite sent" bubble at the bottom of the screen didn't pop up until 2 minutes later.

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

1. 2 hour duration? - Yes but there was only 2 players in that match. I heard that it takes about 1.5 hours to fully complete a firefight level with 4 players.

Jesus. Not a huge fan of these time sinks.

Originally Posted by Stogieman

3. Lag - I haven't experienced any lag in game play.... until last night. It was almost unplayable at times. Game invites are extremely laggy. I sent a game invite to my brother last night and the little "invite sent" bubble at the bottom of the screen didn't pop up until 2 minutes later.

That's disturbing. How the hell does a game cause that?

Stogieman · Sep 29, 2009, 01:45 PM

Those two hours went by pretty quick. Besides you only need to complete 1 level for the achievement. We got the 200k achievement way before the match ended.

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 01:49 PM

Who cares about the achievements. Online multi matches usually range from 10- 30 minutes per... Would be nice if they had some comparably short (or closer) Firefights. Wasn't that the problem with Horde, too? Trying to coordinate 5 guys to meet-up at the same time and had 2 hours open? The immersive L4D took around an hour, and I think that was with both sides taking turns.

Stogieman · Sep 29, 2009, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Who cares about the achievements.

Seriously, are you asking me?

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 02:01 PM

It was rhetorical, Boostface Killah. The point is about the having fun part of the game.

Leonard · Sep 29, 2009, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

I was pleasantly surprised to find out the 200k firefight achievements are based on team score not individual.

Thank Masterchief (or god)! I thought I was going to have to play several 2 hour games of firefight. I like playing Halo 3 and Halo 3 ODST, but playing for 1.5 or 2 hours with no time down-time, I don't know if I'm that interested. Course I guess you could pause the game for a break.

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Who cares about the achievements. Online multi matches usually range from 10- 30 minutes per... Would be nice if they had some comparably short (or closer) Firefights.

Agreed, I like the time limits of the multi-player and depending on the playlist you select, it can be longer or shorter.

Ho well, I'll team-up on the weekend with a couple friends and do a couple. I had one friend invite me to a game, but I was in the middle of a hard part of the single player campaign.

Leonard · Sep 29, 2009, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Not sure? If the campaign is about equal to Halo 3s the Firefight mode would have to be as deep as Halo 3s multi for them to be both worth $60. Somehow, I doubt that is the case.

I was trying to be very tactful about saying anything about this subject as I don't want it to start a long conversion.

Let's just say I agree with you and leave it at that.

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 02:33 PM

Me, long conversation? Never.

Now I'm winning arguments on the basis of my penchant for arguing. Awesome.

Stogieman · Sep 29, 2009, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

It was rhetorical, Boostface Killah. The point is about the having fun part of the game.

Haha... Boostface Killah. I wonder if that gamertag is already taken?

Maybe you should have rented the game before you bought it. Is it too late to cancel your Amazon order? Or are you're trying to set expectations so low that when you do play the game, the $40-$50 you spent won't feel like a ripoff because it wasn't as bad as you thought?

Trust me, firefight is fun. I enjoy it much more than Horde on Gears 2. And Horde was the only thing I liked about GoW 2 multiplayer.

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

Haha... Boostface Killah. I wonder if that gamertag is already taken?

That would be pretty sweet. If you've seen Inglourious Basterds, I saw a dude named "The Bear Jew" on Gears a few weeks ago. It was great.

Originally Posted by Stogieman

Maybe you should have rented the game before you bought it. Is it too late to cancel your Amazon order? Or are you're trying to set expectations so low that when you do play the game, the $40-$50 you spent won't feel like a ripoff because it wasn't as bad as you thought?

I thought about renting it, but that's such a waste of money. I'm not sure how much it costs nowadays, but if its $5 for a few days, that seriously cuts into the savings I was trying to pull off. I got it $10 off with $10 for later, good enough (particularly with a $25 reward card to take the edge off).

Originally Posted by Stogieman

Trust me, firefight is fun. I enjoy it much more than Horde on Gears 2. And Horde was the only thing I liked about GoW 2 multiplayer.

Well, you should remember I actually enjoyed Gears after the third title update. My biggest gripe with Firefight is I have to have friends on to play. I'd rather play with you guys, but the lack of flexibility is a downer.

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 04:11 PM

SHPLA-DOW

Xbox 360 Top LIVE Titles
1 Halo 3
2 Halo 3: ODST
3 Call of Duty 4
4 Call of Duty: WaW
5 Gears of War 2
6 Forza 3 Demo
7 Madden NFL 10
8 GTA IV
9 FIFA Soccer 10 Demo
10 FIFA 09

sek929 · Sep 29, 2009, 04:27 PM

Wow, ODST really gave H3 a shot in the arm. I haven't seen the Call of Duties anywhere below #1 and #2 for a while.

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 04:30 PM

Halo 3 was #1 the two weeks previous to this.

sek929 · Sep 29, 2009, 04:39 PM

I'm a PC gamer now, I care not for your Xbox LIve.

The Final Dakar · Sep 29, 2009, 04:41 PM

Seduced by cheaper games? (and by cheaper I mean free)

Leonard · Sep 29, 2009, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Halo 3 was #1 the two weeks previous to this.

I'm not surprised!

The first 5 in the list make sense to me. The others I don't know that well.

edit: COD must give Halo a run for it's money though. They must be close.

Got a kick out of a friend - he found out his 10 year old son was playin COD 4 at a friend's house. OUCH.