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SpYn
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Mar 22, 2001, 02:43 AM
 
Originally posted by kertong:
I think GS-Rs only come in stick??

But yeah, with the vtec sentiment. I actually agree with cash on this one. Many do, I'm sure.
yes, GS-Rs only come in manual transmition--if they went auto w/ it, it would completely defeat the purpose of vtec--autos usually shift before it hits and power--i know honda made the mistake of offering the vtec in the accords w/ auto...terribly sluggish cars...dont know why anyone would buy it, but hey, theyre pretty, hahhaha (no reason to buy a car...)
kertong, those who dont understand how to use vtec dont like it--and thats fine, cause they shouldnt be driving it...it would be wasting a good car if it isnt driven right IMHO.
now, what i dont agree w/ is people who dont have experience w/ the car who slam the technology simply cause they "heard" somthing about the car, and not actually experiencing it for themselves... (ca$h...)
now, ther are faults in every car, just as most cars have a strength--hondas vtecs have no low end power--thats just somthing we accept--no torque...however, if u know how to launch a car, the lower rpms are bypassed, and the car shoots straight into the vtecs rpm power range, thus giving it a good enuff boost to keep up in starts. those who dont understand this will become frustrated by the long time it takes to get to 0 to 5 mph w/ out a launch...i myself was the same way early on, but then i understand how to "drive" my car and not simply "move" it as so many people do...
good luck finding what u think is most important in a car--to me, raw power isnt enuff--i need refined power, along w/ an efficient engine that is built w/ good quality and can handly maneuverability...euro and japanese cars are good fer this--american cars, however, just go fast...nothin else.......unless u wanna buy the really expensive ones, but quality shouldnt be that expensive...americans are so overwhelmed w/ being the "fastest," "strongest," and "biggest" at the expense of everything else...thers more to driving than raw speed


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Mar 22, 2001, 02:59 AM
 
Well, I hate to come in a day late and maybe a dollar short, but I have a serious question. Is it possible to be "unique" or "different" in a consumer capitalist world?

I guess I could ask the same about a agrarian feudal world--but I'm asking about what I know best.

I'm different because I use a Mac? Gimmabreak, pleeze.

Here's a little adapted mind routine on "different." Humans evolved from social critters. Social critters need to blend with other social critters of the same species. If they don't they become dead critters. Dead critters don't reproduce and the gene that made for their not blending dies with them. So much for difference of any real kind.

That's my 2 cents worth of nonsense.
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Mar 22, 2001, 08:38 AM
 
Brian (speaking from window overlooking assembled crowd):"You can all think for yourselves!"

Assembled crowd (in unison): "We can all think for ourselves!"

Brian: "You're all different!"

Crowd: "We're all different!"

Lone Voice: "I'm not!"

     
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Mar 22, 2001, 10:02 AM
 
Originally posted by yoyo52:
Well, I hate to come in a day late and maybe a dollar short, but I have a serious question. Is it possible to be "unique" or "different" in a consumer capitalist world?

I guess I could ask the same about a agrarian feudal world--but I'm asking about what I know best.

I'm different because I use a Mac? Gimmabreak, pleeze.

Here's a little adapted mind routine on "different." Humans evolved from social critters. Social critters need to blend with other social critters of the same species. If they don't they become dead critters. Dead critters don't reproduce and the gene that made for their not blending dies with them. So much for difference of any real kind.

That's my 2 cents worth of nonsense.
yoyo, I LOVE the way you explain stuff. I want more of the philosophy of yoyo. No kidding, your screen name belies your wisdom.<-- Not sarcasm. I love reading your posts.


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Mar 22, 2001, 01:08 PM
 
[quote]Originally posted by maxelson:
Originally posted by yoyo52:
yoyo, I LOVE the way you explain stuff. I want more of the philosophy of yoyo. No kidding, your screen name belies your wisdom.<-- Not sarcasm. I love reading your posts.

Thanks, maxelson--maybe it's the socialist air of Mass. I lived in the Boston area for 12 great years (wish I was back there, and am jealous that you're back in your old stomping grounds )

As for the name--did you ever read Catch-22? Yossarian = yoyo. But just to show how un-different we all are, when I tried yoyo as my AIM name, it told me someone already had it and I'd have to use something like yoyo1000000. So I tried yossarian. That was taken too. So on AIM I'm yossarian52. Real clever, right?
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Mar 22, 2001, 02:28 PM
 
Originally posted by yoyo52:
Thanks, maxelson--maybe it's the socialist air of Mass. I lived in the Boston area for 12 great years (wish I was back there, and am jealous that you're back in your old stomping grounds )

As for the name--did you ever read Catch-22? Yossarian = yoyo. But just to show how un-different we all are, when I tried yoyo as my AIM name, it told me someone already had it and I'd have to use something like yoyo1000000. So I tried yossarian. That was taken too. So on AIM I'm yossarian52. Real clever, right?
Knew you was cultured. One of my favorite books. Set me off on a whole path of what I'd call sardonic lit- Vonnegut, Burroughs, more Heller, Robbins- you get the idea.
My screen name for pretty much everything used to be Benway (Dr. Benway from Naked Lunch). I lost my grasp on it and, I'll tell you, It's gone forever.
I am quite sure Boston is missing you as well. Another 6 inches of snow this evening. Jeez, I love New England.
Heading for the Expo in NYC this summer? Perhaps an East side Irish Pub meet with Osiris?


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Mar 22, 2001, 02:51 PM
 
Originally posted by yoyo52:
Well, I hate to come in a day late and maybe a dollar short, but I have a serious question. Is it possible to be "unique" or "different" in a consumer capitalist world?

I guess I could ask the same about a agrarian feudal world--but I'm asking about what I know best.

I'm different because I use a Mac? Gimmabreak, pleeze.

Here's a little adapted mind routine on "different." Humans evolved from social critters. Social critters need to blend with other social critters of the same species. If they don't they become dead critters. Dead critters don't reproduce and the gene that made for their not blending dies with them. So much for difference of any real kind.

That's my 2 cents worth of nonsense.
The way you formulated it...no, of course. And I don't think by buying things we can really differentiate ourselves from all the other people who are, in turn, trying to differentiate themselves by buying increasingly "different" things. This has been the whole conundrum for the super rich as us plebes are able to acquire expensive toys once restricted in production but now commonplace (like perfume at the mall).

So there's no way to be different via purchasing a "difference" because purchasing is all the same, and the differences represented in our purchases are akin to clan colors on kilts or mating calls between frogs (with apologies to my Scots friends and frogs).

So, the possibility of being different in other ways. You wrote: "Social critters need to blend with other social critters of the same species" -- ah, but there's the rub! What does blend mean? In fact, I think we have no choice to "blend" or "not blend" -- we're already in the thick of it! ...we live in social networks and like it or not we are enveloped by a sea of restrictions and opportunities. One reaction can be to reject all the social constrictures one can see, but of course rejecting the net doesn't mean you escape it.

Which leaves the twin project of a) the monkey recognizing the cage, and b) the monkey rattling the bars or slipping interestingly between one set of restraints, keeping in mind there's always another set.

And that MY 2 cents of nonsense. /T Ouch! [rattles cage but stubs toe]
     
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Mar 22, 2001, 04:28 PM
 
Originally posted by Timo:

And that MY 2 cents of nonsense. /T Ouch! [rattles cage but stubs toe]
Ouch. Poor tootsie!

And hey, maxelson, I may be able to go to MWNY this summer. Almost went last summer, but things got in the way.

[This message has been edited by yoyo52 (edited 03-22-2001).]
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Mar 22, 2001, 04:39 PM
 
Originally posted by yoyo52:
Ouch. Poor tootsie!

And hey, maxelson, I may be able to go to MWNY this summer. Almost went last summer, but things got in the way.

[This message has been edited by yoyo52 (edited 03-22-2001).]
Try. It'll be a good time. Even the "Temple of Intellect" is letting me out of Lexington for a day or so. Actually, it's looking like the whole lab is going to be Mac Pro-less one or two days that week! What the hell, we're all Maytag repairmen, anyway...

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