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Captain Obvious · Jul 11, 2004, 11:39 AM

So how many of you had a prenuptial agreement? How many wish they did because the divorce process would have been easier and cheaper. How many would get them if they were to marry again in the future?

WD & Lerk save your breath and spare us the sentimentally and syrupy crap from this thread.

starman · Jul 11, 2004, 11:46 AM

And how many people shoulda kept it in their pants?

Spheric Harlot · Jul 11, 2004, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
WD & Lerk save your breath and spare us the sentimentally and syrupy crap from this thread.

That's nice.

Too Artificial · Jul 11, 2004, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
So how many of you had a prenuptial agreement? How many wish they did because the divorce process would have been easier and cheaper. How many would get them if they were to marry again in the future?

WD & Lerk save your breath and spare us the sentimentally and syrupy crap from this thread.

Didn't but wish I did. Next time, yes.

oreo75 · Jul 11, 2004, 12:02 PM

Didn't have a prenuptial agreement & won't made a difference even if I did.

It would take a lot for me to get married again. I'd have to be so sure he was the right guy, or maybe for a greencard.

phoenixboy70 · Jul 11, 2004, 12:10 PM

no prenuptial agreement needed. we've been seperated now for close to 2 1/2 years and we're still really good friends...just didn't work out.

we have absolutely no financial claims from each other.

otoh if some b!tch that i had mistakenly married tried to fu<k me over on money, i'd rather see her 6 feet under than pay a single cent.

meh. i'm happy the way things are now. i don't think i'll ever marry again.

Captain Obvious · Jul 11, 2004, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
That's nice.

It is. I know people like that and they are annoying when this topic is brought up. This isn't about *love* and *trust* since I don't think you'll find many couples who were once married and now divorced who didn't think they had those things. Its a practical matter not an emotional one and some people are incapable of discussing it without bringing it in.

Avoiding something like this is at the heart of the issue:

Originally posted by phoenixboy70:

otoh if some b!tch that i had mistakenly married tried to fu<k me over on money, i'd rather see her 6 feet under than pay a single cent.

And he's a liberal......

CD Hanks · Jul 11, 2004, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:

Originally posted by phoenixboy70:
over on money, i'd rather see her 6 feet under than pay a single cent.

And he's a liberal......

And I am ON the lollercoaster right now.

edit:

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
That's nice.

Sup Mr.Original?

Spheric Harlot · Jul 11, 2004, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
edit:
Sup Mr.Original?

Oh no!

It's Hanks - he's out to get me!

Edit: Or was there some innate quality of that phrase that somehow defines your brilliant creative mind?

phoenixboy70 · Jul 11, 2004, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
This isn't about *love* and *trust* since I don't think you'll find many couples who were once married and now divorced who didn't think they had those things.

kinda makes you wonder...huh. you're right, it's about people who are loving and trusting. BIG difference.

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
And he's a liberal......

arrghhhhh

LOOOL. okay. i give up. yes i'm a liberal. happy now?

phoenixboy70 · Jul 11, 2004, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
And he's a liberal...... And I am ON the lollercoaster right now.

yeah, and what's so funny exactly?

CD Hanks · Jul 11, 2004, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Oh no!

It's Hanks - he's out to get me!

Edit: Or was there some innate quality of that phrase that somehow defines your brilliant creative mind?

It's just that your subconscious is such a cramped place!

Spheric Harlot · Jul 11, 2004, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
It's just that your subconscious is such a cramped place!

Oh - good call!

I wish I'd done it on purpose...

CD Hanks · Jul 11, 2004, 12:59 PM

OreoCookie · Jul 11, 2004, 01:10 PM

My parents have signed a prenup and they are very happily married ... still

It even helped to work out some troubles concerning taxes and all.

Gankdawg · Jul 11, 2004, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Captain Obvious:
syrupy

Is that even a word?

lollercoaster

I'm lawling over this word!

starman · Jul 11, 2004, 07:24 PM

All you people can grok off.

Spheric Harlot · Jul 11, 2004, 07:34 PM

Aw.

In't he cute, de widdle spaceboy...?

Sealobo · Jul 12, 2004, 11:11 AM

i don't understand those who got a divorce and then married to somebody else. marriage gone bad is a PITA.

turtle777 · Jul 12, 2004, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Sealobo:
marriage gone bad is a PITA.

I guess.

That's why I'm not planning on getting divorced

-t

andi*pandi · Jul 12, 2004, 11:51 AM

prenups are for billionaires and alimony is an outdated concept.

you a billionaire, cap'n?

Mrjinglesusa · Jul 12, 2004, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by andi*pandi:
prenups are for billionaires and alimony is an outdated concept.

you a billionaire, cap'n?

Not true. Pre-nups separate financial and OTHER assets that each party brings into the marriage. It is actually a protection for both involved. i.e. My wife, should anything happen to me, would not be responsible for my debt. No pre-nup she would have to pay off all my credit cards if I died.

Blue Flame · Jul 12, 2004, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Not true. Pre-nups separate financial and OTHER assets that each party brings into the marriage. It is actually a protection for both involved. i.e. My wife, should anything happen to me, would not be responsible for my debt. No pre-nup she would have to pay off all my credit cards if I died.

interesting point..

OreoCookie · Jul 12, 2004, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
Not true. Pre-nups separate financial and OTHER assets that each party brings into the marriage. It is actually a protection for both involved. i.e. My wife, should anything happen to me, would not be responsible for my debt. No pre-nup she would have to pay off all my credit cards if I died.

Bingo. That helped my parents a lot. Things like this can happen if you have a business of your own.

Spliffdaddy · Jul 12, 2004, 11:28 PM

Prenups are worthless if your wife drains your bank accounts and charges $28,000 on credit cards before you get divorced. You hafta remember that you're still married and liable for all debts as long as you're married.

My advice is to NOT get married if money is more important than your future wife.

DigitalEl · Jul 13, 2004, 02:51 AM

My wife, should anything happen to me, would not be responsible for my debt.

Don't believe everything your lawyer tells you... Unless yours is a lot better than mine. Creditors don't give a sh!t what's in your divorce decree. If it's joint debt, with both your names on it, you both are still responsible for it... Or at least that's the rude awakening I received after my divorce in Colorado. I'm sure I could've hired another lawyer and battled it out, but it was easier just to pay the amount in question and make the whole thing go away.

Married again now... No prenup.

Captain Obvious · 08:05 AM

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
Prenups are worthless if your wife drains your bank accounts and charges $28,000 on credit cards before you get divorced. You hafta remember that you're still married and liable for all debts as long as you're married.

My advice is to NOT get married if money is more important than your future wife.

Originally posted by DigitalEl:
Don't believe everything your lawyer tells you... Unless yours is a lot better than mine. Creditors don't give a sh!t what's in your divorce decree. If it's joint debt, with both your names on it, you both are still responsible for it... Or at least that's the rude awakening I received after my divorce in Colorado. I'm sure I could've hired another lawyer and battled it out, but it was easier just to pay the amount in question and make the whole thing go away.

Married again now... No prenup.

Yes, with both your names on it. That was where you went wrong. Not your lawyer.
Creditors can come after you because of her actions. If she has her name on your car, your business, and your home they can seek to acquire what is owed to them by going after those assets. If you bought that home, car, and own that business separate with funds designated outside the marital assets and your prenuptial took that into account then things would have gone better for you.
Your liability for her credit card debt can by limited by a prenuptial and stop her from spending your money or stop creditors from considering you attached to it. So yes, yours sucked and more specifically you did not address the issue before hand. If you did not specify that this was one of the things you wanted your prenuptial to do then it is your fault. Therefore that debt is considered community debt and you are SOL. A good prenup would have specified the details of the division of marital debt once you separate. Your divorce attorney sucks too. You could have made a claim that the debt she racked up should be considered a wasted asset and had the settlement offset to make up for it.
Arizona is a community property state that considers all assets and obligations accumulated while married to have equal ownership as well. If I were you I would go talk to someone to see what a post-nuptial agreement could do for you.

Money is always an issue so long as it gets you food, shelter, and a better life. Your advice Spiff is stupid.

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...45#post2079153
I bet that a she wishes she had one now, and she isn't a billionaire.

buffalolee · Jul 14, 2004, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by oreo75:
Didn't have a prenuptial agreement & won't made a difference even if I did.

It would take a lot for me to get married again. I'd have to be so sure he was the right guy, or maybe for a greencard.

Any American Macnn users looking for Mac loving wife?

Mrjinglesusa · Jul 14, 2004, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by DigitalEl:
Don't believe everything your lawyer tells you... Unless yours is a lot better than mine. Creditors don't give a sh!t what's in your divorce decree. If it's joint debt, with both your names on it, you both are still responsible for it... Or at least that's the rude awakening I received after my divorce in Colorado. I'm sure I could've hired another lawyer and battled it out, but it was easier just to pay the amount in question and make the whole thing go away.

Married again now... No prenup. [/B]

I guess my lawyer is better. But then again, I said debt I had BEFORE the marriage. Of course any debt you accrue DURING the marriage you are both responsible for.