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Mage · Jul 3, 2002, 03:36 AM

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/deception/desktop.jpg" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/deception/desktop.jpg</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/deception/systempref.jpg" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/deception/systempref.jpg</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/deception/sound.jpg" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/deception/sound.jpg</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/deception/services.jpg" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/deception/services.jpg</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/deception/firewall.jpg" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/deception/firewall.jpg</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/deception/share.jpg" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/deception/share.jpg</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/deception/netterm.jpg" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/deception/netterm.jpg</a>

Adam Betts · Jul 3, 2002, 03:44 AM

Could you post a screenshot of iChat's preference? I'd love to see if it's almost done. In WWDC build, lot of features are disabled.

Could you also look in the system to see if there is any new desktop background? The new desktop icon in System Preference must be a hint.

Jul 3, 2002, 03:46 AM

Nice shots! Is the new copy cursor still in?

Mage · Jul 3, 2002, 04:02 AM

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/deception/getinfo.jpg" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/deception/getinfo.jpg</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/deception/ichat.jpg" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/deception/ichat.jpg</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/deception/ichat2.jpg" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/deception/ichat2.jpg</a>

the new beach ball is still there, and when you go to add files to other volumes or move to folders there is an odd orange/red "+" button

[ 07-03-2002, 04:03 AM: Message edited by: Mage ]

sderaj · Jul 3, 2002, 04:08 AM

Are you using the stock ATI card? How is speed?

Mage · Jul 3, 2002, 04:12 AM

i'm impressed with the speed of the gui.... it's almost like OS 9. i'm using an ati radeon agp, so i don't know what it's like with a rage. ichats features in the preferences have been cut down majorly -- nothing says to be developed later

it's all cleaned up, there is nothing in this build to indicate it's a beta build .. the country selection has no option to select internal apple servers . things seem to be getting polished off perhaps for a mwny release, it looks really good -- only one alement , lookupd stops working after a while and i have to kill -hup it every once in a while. other than that it's very very nice

SYN · Jul 3, 2002, 04:19 AM

do you have any way to test the built-in internet connexion sharing?

is minimize in place back?

ablaze · Jul 3, 2002, 04:32 AM

I doubt, that we will see 10.2 final at Macwrorld Expo!
Perhaps they are just putting some make-up on it for a nice presentation by Mr. Jobs?

brainchild2b · Jul 3, 2002, 04:52 AM

Mage is full of *HIT this is build 6c75 that he is showing you. Builds higher than that have the INK put back into the control panel. Either that or somebody lied to Mage. Either way what you are seeing is 6c75. You might notice that all the screenshots are in the folder "deception" people. I CAN PROMISE you that he doesn't have build 6c82. Mage if you've got nothing better to do with your time, you could always go kill yourself.

Mage · Jul 3, 2002, 05:24 AM

i guarentee you that these pictures are 100% real. look at getinfo -- the creation date of the calculator -- june 27th look at netterm.jpg and you will see the kernel was compiled on the 26th -- this build was compiled on the 27th or 28th, this is more recent than a week. These shots are not in any way altered, don't listen to this guy blabbering his mouth off

RealMadrid · Jul 3, 2002, 06:14 AM

Mage, why do the shots in your first post show version 6c82 and the next ones "10.2"?

Is it posible to change that?

DasDaSein+ · Jul 3, 2002, 06:18 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by RealMadrid:
Mage, why do the shots in your first post show version 6c82 and the next ones "10.2"?

Is it posible to change that?<hr /></blockquote>It changes when you klick on the text.

Jul 3, 2002, 06:33 AM

Could you test something for me, please?
In 6C75, from what I have heard, the translations were not yet finished. For example the DVD Player. It shows up a resize widget in the lower right corner which apperently is a bug. Does this still appear (when your switch to German)?

[ 07-03-2002, 06:33 AM: Message edited by: SteveJobs ]

Mage · Jul 3, 2002, 06:42 AM

dont have other language support installed

jock · Jul 3, 2002, 07:35 AM

Mage,
Is the default paper size still US Letter? And can you change the default to A4
Odd request I know but there is a long thread over this in OSX software...

Troll · Jul 3, 2002, 07:37 AM

I haven't been keeping up with all the speculation so maybe this has been discussed before.

Is it just me or does the keyboard icon in System Prefs look like a keyboard we haven't seen yet?

Vanquish · Jul 3, 2002, 07:40 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> haven't been keeping up with all the speculation so maybe this has been discussed before.

Is it just me or does the keyboard icon in System Prefs look like a keyboard we haven't seen yet?
<hr /></blockquote>It's a white command-key from the FP iMac keyboard. It's ugly IMO.

iNeusch · Jul 3, 2002, 07:52 AM

Are there any news with Address Book ?

Jamie · Jul 3, 2002, 08:16 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Troll:


Is it just me or does the keyboard icon in System Prefs look like a keyboard we haven't seen yet?<hr /></blockquote>Yes the new Apple one-button Pro Keyboard to go along with the new Apple 52-button Pro Mouse.

J

tobli · Jul 3, 2002, 08:34 AM

What is the new widget above the scroll bar in the terminal window (see the netterm screen shot)?

Jamie · Jul 3, 2002, 08:50 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tobli:
What is the new widget above the scroll bar in the terminal window (see the netterm screen shot)?<hr /></blockquote>It allows you to split the Terminal window in two, like in MS Word.

J

cwasko · Jul 3, 2002, 08:52 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tobli:
What is the new widget above the scroll bar in the terminal window (see the netterm screen shot)?<hr /></blockquote>If I had to guess, it looks like it would split the screen, ala BBEdit. If so, this would be very cool.

gorickey · Jul 3, 2002, 09:21 AM

Mage:

Wow, builds are flying out of Apple now....hey, can you look at Sherlock 3 and let me know if you can launch/use it successfully serveral times in a row? I heard that app has some serious issues in c75 and I was just wondering they are getting ironed out.

Thanks!

besson3c · Jul 3, 2002, 09:34 AM

Mage:

Are the VPN features present in this build? PPTP, IPSec clients?

Peabo · Jul 3, 2002, 09:35 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Mage:

Wow, builds are flying out of Apple now....hey, can you look at Sherlock 3 and let me know if you can launch/use it successfully serveral times in a row? I heard that app has some serious issues in c75 and I was just wondering they are getting ironed out.

Thanks!<hr /></blockquote>Of course they are. Do you think they'll ship 10.2 with a version of Sherlock that doesn't work?

phobos · Jul 3, 2002, 09:38 AM

Hey mage can youplease tell me if there is support for the greek language?

gorickey · Jul 3, 2002, 09:40 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by z0ne81:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Mage:

Wow, builds are flying out of Apple now....hey, can you look at Sherlock 3 and let me know if you can launch/use it successfully serveral times in a row? I heard that app has some serious issues in c75 and I was just wondering they are getting ironed out.

Thanks!<hr /></blockquote>Of course they are. Do you think they'll ship 10.2 with a version of Sherlock that doesn't work?<hr /></blockquote>Yep, that's what I think....good lord, re-read my post. Just because it's a new build doesn't mean bugs are fixed in all sectors, hence my question.

dark3lf · Jul 3, 2002, 09:45 AM

6c73 + IE 5.2 is extremely fast, feels like Chimera under 10.1.5. Curiously, all Gecko based browsers suffer from cosmetic oddities; there is static over some of the window and the buttons on the personal toolbar.

schep · Jul 3, 2002, 09:49 AM

mage, what is the earth with little smily mac looking thing icon (Next to the aim icon) in the dock

Peabo · Jul 3, 2002, 09:49 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by z0ne81:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Mage:

Wow, builds are flying out of Apple now....hey, can you look at Sherlock 3 and let me know if you can launch/use it successfully serveral times in a row? I heard that app has some serious issues in c75 and I was just wondering they are getting ironed out.

Thanks!<hr /></blockquote>Of course they are. Do you think they'll ship 10.2 with a version of Sherlock that doesn't work?<hr /></blockquote>Yep, that's what I think....good lord, re-read my post. Just because it's a new build doesn't mean bugs are fixed in all sectors, hence my question.<hr /></blockquote>Who cares if something like Sherlock doesn't work in a dev build of Mac OS X. It's a stupid question, I'm sure you really just want to know if it's worth downloading or not, why not just ask that?

gorickey · Jul 3, 2002, 10:00 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by z0ne81:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by z0ne81:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Mage:

Wow, builds are flying out of Apple now....hey, can you look at Sherlock 3 and let me know if you can launch/use it successfully serveral times in a row? I heard that app has some serious issues in c75 and I was just wondering they are getting ironed out.

Thanks!<hr /></blockquote>Of course they are. Do you think they'll ship 10.2 with a version of Sherlock that doesn't work?<hr /></blockquote>Yep, that's what I think....good lord, re-read my post. Just because it's a new build doesn't mean bugs are fixed in all sectors, hence my question.<hr /></blockquote>Who cares if something like Sherlock doesn't work in a dev build of Mac OS X. It's a stupid question, I'm sure you really just want to know if it's worth downloading or not, why not just ask that?<hr /></blockquote>I care, enough said....I don't really give a damn if you think something is relevant or a stupid question. Oh, and by the way, nice way of getting your own question into the forum.

CheesePuff · Jul 3, 2002, 10:09 AM

I'm betting no one downloaded the images to their disk, eh?

If you could email them to me I could host them.

[email protected]

Peabo · Jul 3, 2002, 10:30 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by z0ne81:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by z0ne81:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Mage:

Wow, builds are flying out of Apple now....hey, can you look at Sherlock 3 and let me know if you can launch/use it successfully serveral times in a row? I heard that app has some serious issues in c75 and I was just wondering they are getting ironed out.

Thanks!<hr /></blockquote>Of course they are. Do you think they'll ship 10.2 with a version of Sherlock that doesn't work?<hr /></blockquote>Yep, that's what I think....good lord, re-read my post. Just because it's a new build doesn't mean bugs are fixed in all sectors, hence my question.<hr /></blockquote>Who cares if something like Sherlock doesn't work in a dev build of Mac OS X. It's a stupid question, I'm sure you really just want to know if it's worth downloading or not, why not just ask that?<hr /></blockquote>I care, enough said....I don't really give a damn if you think something is relevant or a stupid question. Oh, and by the way, nice way of getting your own question into the forum.<hr /></blockquote>It was your question. Why would you care if Sherlock worked in 6C82 unless you were planning on using it? It's going to work in 10.2 final incase you didn't know.

Thilo Ettelt · Jul 3, 2002, 10:39 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by z0ne81:
It was your question. Why would you care if Sherlock worked in 6C82 unless you were planning on using it? It's going to work in 10.2 final incase you didn't know.[/qb]<hr /></blockquote>Come on little boy. It's an important question. How could you find out if the build is near to final candidate or GM?

Cheers, Thilo

[ 07-03-2002, 10:41 AM: Message edited by: Thilo Ettelt ]

Peabo · Jul 3, 2002, 10:43 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Thilo Ettelt:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by z0ne81:
It was your question. Why would you care if Sherlock worked in 6C82 unless you were planning on using it? It's going to work in 10.2 final incase you didn't know.<hr /></blockquote>Come on little boy. It's an important question. How could you find out if the build is near to final candidate or GM?

Cheers, Thilo[/QB]<hr /></blockquote>Wait 2 weeks and find out for yourself.

gorickey · Jul 3, 2002, 10:47 AM

zOne81:

I think you are confused, this thread is ALL ABOUT "hey, is this new? has this/that changed? look up this and see what's different"....how is that any different then my Sherlock 3 question? Oh wait, it's not.

Peabo · Jul 3, 2002, 10:50 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
zOne81:

I think you are confused, this thread is ALL ABOUT "hey, is this new? has this/that changed? look up this and see what's different"....how is that any different then my Sherlock 3 question? Oh wait, it's not.<hr /></blockquote>I dunno...sherlock working after being launched 3 times doesn't sound too interesting to me.

gorickey · Jul 3, 2002, 10:51 AM

Exactly my point, not to interesting to "you"....

Peabo · Jul 3, 2002, 10:54 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Exactly my point, not to interesting to "you"....<hr /></blockquote>hey do iPods mount in 6C82 because I have a freind who told me that iPods don't mount in 6C75, not that I'm going to download it or anything, i just find this sort of thing really interesting

gorickey · Jul 3, 2002, 10:58 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by z0ne81:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Exactly my point, not to interesting to "you"....<hr /></blockquote>hey do iPods mount in 6C82 because I have a freind who told me that iPods don't mount in 6C75, not that I'm going to download it or anything, i just find this sort of thing really interesting

<hr /></blockquote>Excellent, you are getting better, I have no interest in your iPod question; however, I'll take it with a grain of salt and hopefully somebody will have the answer to it! Hint Hint.

On a side note, you honestly think the relevance of if Sherlock is working will be the deciding factor if I download c82 or not?? Hahahahahaha. Heeeellllloooo, it's called Watson and works fine that I can get anytime.

Peabo · Jul 3, 2002, 11:02 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by z0ne81:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Exactly my point, not to interesting to "you"....<hr /></blockquote>hey do iPods mount in 6C82 because I have a freind who told me that iPods don't mount in 6C75, not that I'm going to download it or anything, i just find this sort of thing really interesting

<hr /></blockquote>Excellent, you are getting better, I have no interest in your iPod question; however, I'll take it with a grain of salt and hopefully somebody will have the answer to it! Hint Hint.

On a side note, you honestly think the relevance of if Sherlock is working will be the deciding factor if I download c82 or not?? Hahahahahaha. Heeeellllloooo, it's called Watson and works fine that I can get anytime.<hr /></blockquote>I don't care about all these questions, I was being sarcastic and like I said, they will work in the final so it deosn't matter. I just find your attempt to cover up your true motives very amusing. I didn't think you'd resort to using stuff like 'hahahahahah' though. Nevermind
<img border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" title="" src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" />

[ 07-03-2002, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: z0ne81 ]

gorickey · Jul 3, 2002, 11:04 AM

Hahahahaahahahaha, rrriiigghhhtttttt....

I find your repetitive "no sense" comments amusing.

Peabo · Jul 3, 2002, 11:06 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Hahahahaahahahaha, rrriiigghhhtttttt....

I find your repetitive "no sense" comments amusing.<hr /></blockquote>Man, you sound like my little brother.

gorickey · Jul 3, 2002, 11:08 AM

Darn, I was hoping for your whining mother....damn!

Peabo · Jul 3, 2002, 11:10 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Darn, I was hoping for your whining mother....damn!<hr /></blockquote>Don't feed the troll now :o

gorickey · Jul 3, 2002, 11:11 AM

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....

Peabo · Jul 3, 2002, 11:12 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....<hr /></blockquote>Same goes for spamming
:o

gorickey · Jul 3, 2002, 11:16 AM

Hahahaha, funny funny guy....hahahahaha!

Spheric Harlot · Jul 3, 2002, 11:17 AM

You two are pitiful.

Can it, and get back to the subject.

-s*

Peabo · Jul 3, 2002, 11:18 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gorickey:
Hahahaha, funny funny guy....hahahahaha!

<hr /></blockquote>Yeah, a guy could bust a lung in here