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jrafter · Jul 30, 2002, 09:22 AM

Does anyone know what web browser, if any, will ship with Jaguar? Thanks!

[ 07-30-2002, 02:47 PM: Message edited by: jrafter ]

KaptainKaya · Jul 30, 2002, 09:23 AM

Internet Explorer 5.2.1 is what is included with 6C106.

dwishbone · Jul 30, 2002, 10:47 AM

i wonder how long it will take before Chimera is the official Apple web browser. afterall, the programmer of Chimera is now on Apple's payroll i've heard.

Jamie · Jul 30, 2002, 10:55 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by jrafter:
Does anyone know what web browser, if any, will ship with Jaguar? Thanks!<hr /></blockquote>It will be MS Internet Explorer 5.2.1.

I don't think Apple would be stupid enough not to include any browser!

J

graffix · Jul 30, 2002, 11:00 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />i wonder how long it will take before Chimera is the official Apple web browser. afterall, the programmer of Chimera is now on Apple's payroll i've heard. <hr /></blockquote>I would think it would take feature parity with IE before you'd ever see Chimera bundled with the MacOS... and that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
Chimera may be an okay browser, but it's definitely the 'answer to every problem' like a lot of people think... plus, it has '0' features other than being a web page renderer, and that's not what people want.

beb · Jul 30, 2002, 11:05 AM

Chimera has probably yet to be blessed by Steve, Avie and the like. It's a great start. It just needs a lot of polish. We might see something by 2003: Macworld San Francisco or Tokyo along with iChat 2, but don't bet on it.

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dwishbone · Jul 30, 2002, 11:07 AM

i never said i thought Chimera was going to ship with Jaguar.
My guess is also IE 5.2.1 since it has the most features. Now that they have their deal with AOL it would not totally shock me if they included Netscape (even though it is a piece of crap compared to the latest builds of Mozilla). What Apple should do is what they did in the old days...just include both and let people decide which they like. If you dont like it...delete it...simple as that. at least let people have the option.
I. too, don't expect Chimera to ship with a MacOS anytime soon. It probably will not be known as Chimera either. The "code name" will be Chimera, but when it is officially released by Apple it will be known as something like iBrowse, or just Browser.

[ 07-30-2002, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: dwishbone ]

asmodeus · Jul 30, 2002, 12:10 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by dwishbone:
i wonder how long it will take before Chimera is the official Apple web browser. afterall, the programmer of Chimera is now on Apple's payroll i've heard.<hr /></blockquote>He definately is on Apple's payroll. You can read his blog here: <a href="http://www.mozillazine.org/weblogs/hyatt/." target="_blank">http://www.mozillazine.org/weblogs/hyatt/.</a>

Ken_F2 · Jul 30, 2002, 01:02 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Chimera has probably yet to be blessed by Steve, Avie and the like. It's a great start. It just needs a lot of polish. We might see something by 2003: Macworld San Francisco or Tokyo along with iChat 2, but don't bet on it.<hr /></blockquote>I doubt the hiring of the particular individual has anything to do with Chimera.

Microsoft has their next-generation, completely rewritten <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/svspeaker/04-10browne.asp" target="_blank">Internet Explorer 6.0 for OSX</a> coming in early 2003. It uses a completely new, faster rendering architecture without any OS9 legacy code, so it would seem a waste for Apple to do their own browser, when it highly unlikely to be better than the next MS browser.

brainchild2b · Jul 30, 2002, 01:06 PM

apple is just using the chimera developer to build an HTML engine, not a web browser. You know how sherlock renders html? and mail.app does? That's what this is for. An API for Mac OS X, not a web browser. People need to stop coming up with crazy speculations.

Northform · Jul 30, 2002, 02:49 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by brainchild2b:
apple is just using the chimera developer to build an HTML engine, not a web browser. You know how sherlock renders html? and mail.app does? That's what this is for. An API for Mac OS X, not a web browser. People need to stop coming up with crazy speculations.<hr /></blockquote>But he is an interface expert. Why would a company hire an interface expert to create an html engine (something with no interface)? David Hayatt is the one who designed the XUL inteface for Mozilla.