[tictactoe]

Which do you prefer and why?

[wataru]

Firefox. It has much greater functionality (through extensions), is themeable (I think these themes look nicer than Safari, and you can use my own Firefoxy for the widgets), and is faster (especially on slower connections).

[paully dub]

Safari for the only reason that it seems to handle lots of tabs (with videos and heavy content) better. Firefox is faster in most situations, although Camino is even faster.

shiira is still being played with, but is promising.

[Deimos]

If I was to choose between Safari or Firefox, I'd say Firefox. It's not always faster than Safari, but the cookie handling is far better, for what I need. Plus, extensions really makes a difference.

In saying that, though, I actually use OmniWeb, it's just loaded up with features. Can be a bit slow, but really, not much, and the feature-set makes up for it.

[Gankdawg]

I'm leaning towards Firefox because of it's browsing speed. I can't figure out how to get my bookmarks imported from Safari though.

[wataru]

Do. A. Search.

[Gankdawg]

Originally posted by wataru:
Do. A. Search.

Screw. You. I did a search and didn't find that program. But thanks, it did work.

[asxless]

Isn't it great to have these two excellent browsers to chose from?

I use FireFox for 90% of my browsing and Safari for the rest. I find FireFox to be faster overall and much faster on some graphics laden sites. But I prefer Safari for a few financial sites and the Apple support forums. So I keep both loaded at all times and use one that works best for each site i visit.

-- asxless in iLand

[ogun]

Originally posted by Gankdawg:
I'm leaning towards Firefox because of it's browsing speed. I can't figure out how to get my bookmarks imported from Safari though.

In Safari...

turn on the Debug menu.

select 'export bookmarks'.

This will generate a file named 'Safari Bookmarks' in the target folder of your choice.

In Firefox...

select 'Manage Bookmarks' from the 'Bookmarks' menu

This will open the 'Bookmarks Manager' window. Select 'Import' from the 'File' menu. Navigate to the folder where you put Safari Bookmarks. Import. Edit as you wish.

[Randman]

Firefox on Windows seems a little more polished than the version for the Mac. Plus. Safari 2.0 is coming around the corner.

[TheAlbinoBowler]

I use Omniweb 80% of the time, with the remainder being Firefox for testing sites I am building and using some of the Web Developer tools. I'd use Firefox way more, maybe even full time, if it didn't conflict with Codetek Virtual Desktop in such an annoying manner.

[Wevah]

I use Camino, for two reasons: I like it, and I'm biased because I help out a bit.

[jamil5454]

I mainly use Safari because I like the look of it and it doesn't get in the way too often. When I have compatibility probelms, I use the original Mozilla from the Mozilla suite.

[IronPen]

It really is hard to decide sometimes. I seem to change browsers every few months. I'm hooked on Shiira right now for it's Cocoa goodness and it's nice features. Second to it I prefer Camino. Firefox is very nice though. And I see little reason to go back to Safari. 2.0 doesn't seem to have any features to top Camino, Firefox, Shiira, OmniWeb, etc.

[driven]

As much as I love Firefox on my PC, I wouldn't use anything but Safari on my Mac. I like it better.

(Also I like how iSync keeps my bookmarks in sync on all my machines.) :-)

[CaptainHaddock]

1. Omniweb, because the nice features and flexibility it has built in are second-to-none. Site-specific browsing preferences are indispensible!

2. Camino, because it's the fastest browser on OS X. It's hard to beat the gecko engine in a native Cocoa interface. Downsides: no spell-checking, no Midas (yet), incorrect gamma rendering on PNG images.

Honourable Mentions:

3. Safari still gets used from time to time because it's always getting faster and it has the best text form autofill.

4. Firefox occasionally gets used for the extra functionality of its many extensions. It's also the cleanest-looking Mac browser. The downsides: form widgets look awful, and the broken middle-click functionality makes it un-usable for me.

[Randman]

Originally posted by CaptainHaddock:
1. Omniweb, because the nice features and flexibility it has built in are second-to-none. Site-specific browsing preferences are indispensible!

What do you mean by this? With pithhelmet, you can set specific site preferences with Safari.

[wataru]

Originally posted by CaptainHaddock:
The downsides: form widgets look awful, and the broken middle-click functionality makes it un-usable for me.

Do people not even read threads before posting? As I already mentioned before, there's Firefoxy.

[Randman]

If you're going to use suff like FireFoxy, why not just get Safari Enhancer (free) and Pithhelmet and be done with it?

Ans yes, Wataru, we all know you're a big FF proponent. It's just that you often come across as too strident in your support without looking at needs and concerns in a fair and unbiased manner.

[Millennium]

Firefox. More extensible, and better widgets (i.e. widgets which can respond to styling).

[Love Calm Quiet]

Randman:

Is Pithhelmet still causing significant slowdowns? problems with various sites?

I gave up on it a year or so ago ovr such issues.

[wataru]

Originally posted by Randman:
If you're going to use suff like FireFoxy, why not just get Safari Enhancer (free) and Pithhelmet and be done with it?

Ans yes, Wataru, we all know you're a big FF proponent. It's just that you often come across as too strident in your support without looking at needs and concerns in a fair and unbiased manner.

Safari Enhancer doesn't get Safari even close to the extensibility of Firefox, and Pithhelmet is not free (and I've found that it slows Safari down significantly) unlike the Adblock extension.

I apologize for coming on too strong about this, but I find many of the reasons people don't like Firefox to be pretty stupid. It's not Cocoa? The widgets are ugly? Please.

[paully dub]

I actually realised I don't know which I prefer. I just looked at my dock:

[driven]

Do we all agree that the version of IE that's (still) bundled with OSX has been left in the dust?

[Randman]

1) IE? Is that like Netscape?

2) No worries, Wataru, you always have something good to say, but sometimes the message is a bit strident, imo.

3) yes, the latest builds of pith is much better. I also dropped it for the last version but gave it a try after reading some good things and it's been good so far. A drastic improvement.

[Wevah]

Originally posted by CaptainHaddock:
[B]2. Camino, [...] Downsides: [...] no Midas (yet), [...]

Midas works in the most recent nightlies, FWIW. Of course, there are a few other bugs that cropped up recently, as well, the most annoying of which is someone else's fault. ;P

[CaptainHaddock]

Firefoxy? Never heard of it, but if you have to install additional apps to make Firefox work properly, that's another downside.

Pith Helmet? I've heard it costs money and eats tons of CPU cycles. Plus, you risk breaking things every time Safari gets updated.

Program + Add-on Program that might break on the next update is less optimal than a single program (like Omniweb) that already does everything. That's why Safari and Firefox get honourable mentions.

[spiky_dog]

Originally posted by CaptainHaddock:
Camino, because it's the fastest browser on OS X. It's hard to beat the gecko engine in a native Cocoa interface. Downsides: no spell-checking, no Midas (yet), incorrect gamma rendering on PNG images.

ditto. not having autofill on forms is the one feature i truly miss when using camino.

[MacGorilla]

I prefer Safari but I use Firefox on any other platform I'm using: qnx, irix, athene.

[wataru]

Originally posted by CaptainHaddock:
Firefoxy? Never heard of it, but if you have to install additional apps to make Firefox work properly, that's another downside.

Never heard of it, even though I already described it and linked to it earlier in this thread?

You don't have to "install" anything else, as I'd hardly call using Firefoxy an "installation." And how is changing the widget style "making it work properly?" That's such a pointless, nitpicky issue to begin with.

If you'd rather pay unnecessary money for a web browser than take 5 minutes to look into these things, then that's your business. But it seems pretty stupid to me.

[mania]

Firefox:

web developer extension
adblock extension
miniT extension
foxytunes extension
colorzilla extension
target alert extension

but Safari is good and fast and renders printing pages better

Opera is also a great broswer

IE sux (and I mean windows IE 6), it has terrible CSS interpretation - you have to constantly write hacks for it when using tableless layout. Not to mention no tabs, sucky popups, lame security, active x crap, weird javascript interpreter - ugh. kill me now.

[ReggieX]

I use both regularly, depending on the site I want to go to. Using Safari on eBay is an exercise in JavaScript stupidity.

[Cadaver]

I typically use Safari, mainly because of the bookmark syncing feature (I have 3 machines - home, work, laptop) and having all my bookmarks stay synced is an invaluable feature.

For sites that don't seem to work properly on Safari, I will use Firefox.

On my PC, however, its Firefox virtually of the time.